Cubs trade Barrett to Padres for Rob Bowen & Kyler Burke

[rabidawg900]

My girl had a crush on Barrett...so in a way, yeah, I'm glad he is gone.

 

:twisted:

 

Yeah Barrett was definitely the best lookin dude on the cubs...wait...

 

I mean he must have gotten the most ass out of anybody. What a pimp. He will be missed.

[Garwilly]

Big Z's gonna throw @ Barrett. Bean ball WWII

 

That means we're in the playoffs. I'll take that!

[JonnyRed]

As usual, Mike Downey has a hysterically bad article about this in the Trib...

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-070620-mikedowney,1,7573736.column?coll=chi-news-hed

 

Barrett wasn't unpopular in Chicago, but he became as controversial a figure as has played here in many a year. It all began at U.S. Cellular Field, where it wasn't enough for him to curse at A.J. Pierzynski or even to bump him in the chest after a play at home plate -- no, Barrett had to pop him right in the face, in front of nearly 40,000 Chicago baseball fans, including children.

 

What a bunch of bullplop journalism.

 

Completely laughable....Somehow in the 5 seconds it took for Barrett to get bowled over, have Pudzinski slap home plate and lower his shoulder into him, Michael was supposed to think about the kids watching instead of doing what many of us on this board would have done....What a joke! Bring back Bernie!

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

As usual, Mike Downey has a hysterically bad article about this in the Trib...

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-070620-mikedowney,1,7573736.column?coll=chi-news-hed

 

Barrett wasn't unpopular in Chicago, but he became as controversial a figure as has played here in many a year. It all began at U.S. Cellular Field, where it wasn't enough for him to curse at A.J. Pierzynski or even to bump him in the chest after a play at home plate -- no, Barrett had to pop him right in the face, in front of nearly 40,000 Chicago baseball fans, including children.

 

What a bunch of bullplop journalism.

the "including children" part is hysterically bad. I am crying over here.

 

Does he hang out with Sally Struthers?

[chuckywang]

Even though I hate this trade, I really think Barrett is on the downward slope and don't see him making an all star team in the next few years.

 

What does the All-Star game have to do with being good? I thought it was a popularity contest.

 

The managers round out the all star teams with their own picks. It's not just about votes.

[inari]

As usual, Mike Downey has a hysterically bad article about this in the Trib...

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-070620-mikedowney,1,7573736.column?coll=chi-news-hed

 

Barrett wasn't unpopular in Chicago, but he became as controversial a figure as has played here in many a year. It all began at U.S. Cellular Field, where it wasn't enough for him to curse at A.J. Pierzynski or even to bump him in the chest after a play at home plate -- no, Barrett had to pop him right in the face, in front of nearly 40,000 Chicago baseball fans, including children.

 

What a bunch of bullplop journalism.

the "including children" part is hysterically bad. I am crying over here.

 

That's pretty much what bothered me the most. I mean, "think about the children" is just about the worst line you can ever use. And as a sports journalist? Christ.

[98navigator]

My girl had a crush on Barrett...so in a way, yeah, I'm glad he is gone.

 

:twisted:

 

Yeah Barrett was definitely the best lookin dude on the cubs...wait...

 

I mean he must have gotten the most ass out of anybody. What a pimp. He will be missed.

 

Mine seems to think DeRo is best looking dude.

[Soriano12]

Downey has always wrote crap.

[Shilzzz]

on michael's wikipedia page:

 

Barrett was reportedly traded because Cubs Manager Lou Piniella "can't have [w]ussies playing on my team."

 

did lou really say that?

[3Dog]

As usual, Mike Downey has a hysterically bad article about this in the Trib...

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-070620-mikedowney,1,7573736.column?coll=chi-news-hed

 

Barrett wasn't unpopular in Chicago, but he became as controversial a figure as has played here in many a year. It all began at U.S. Cellular Field, where it wasn't enough for him to curse at A.J. Pierzynski or even to bump him in the chest after a play at home plate -- no, Barrett had to pop him right in the face, in front of nearly 40,000 Chicago baseball fans, including children.

 

What a bunch of bullplop journalism.

 

The last time Downey was relevant was sometime during the Harding Administration.

[98navigator]

on michael's wikipedia page:

 

Barrett was reportedly traded because Cubs Manager Lou Piniella "can't have [w]ussies playing on my team."

 

did lou really say that?

 

If he did, I can't see Lou allowing anyone to quote him saying that. Remember, Wikipedia is public and anyone can edit a page.

[Soriano12]

on michael's wikipedia page:

 

Barrett was reportedly traded because Cubs Manager Lou Piniella "can't have [w]ussies playing on my team."

 

did lou really say that?

 

Doubt it. IIRC, Barrett was one of the first players Piniella was raving about during ST.

[98navigator]

on michael's wikipedia page:

 

Barrett was reportedly traded because Cubs Manager Lou Piniella "can't have [w]ussies playing on my team."

 

did lou really say that?

 

Doubt it. IIRC, Barrett was one of the first players Piniella was raving about during ST.

 

They clashed but I don't think Lou said that.

[inari]

So... how about we revisit the Todd Hundley experiment?

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2001_mlb_spring_training/news/2000/03/05/photo_gallery_one/6.jpg

 

Take two would have to go better, right?

[Amazing_Grace]

Considering who the Twins had blocking him at Catcher...I don't know that their willingness to move him necessarily makes him a flame out.

 

His numbers are more of the problem than the Twins willingness to move him.

 

True...but they "seem" to be improving...a year ago this board would have been happy to add a .370 OBP no matter where it came from...if he's a lot better behind the plate, I think I like this trade.

 

Well, last year Barrett had better than a .368 OBP so actually no, we wouldn't have been happy to trade about 150 points of SLG for 2 points of OBP. Based on Bowen's minor league numbers, I would be very, very, surprised if his OBP stays where it is now. His IsoD is great usually over .100 in the minors. The problem really is that he's a pretty terrible hitter. He doesn't have much power and a good year in the minors for Bowen was when his BA was above .260.

 

Does anyone know how long Blanco is out? If he is coming back this season and Hendry is planning on Bowen/Blanco the rest of the year, I like this deal a lot less. If they're planning on giving Soto a shot, then I'm fine with it.

[inari]

Has anyone heard that this deal originally included Greene? I just read it on another board.

[Shilzzz]

on michael's wikipedia page:

 

Barrett was reportedly traded because Cubs Manager Lou Piniella "can't have [w]ussies playing on my team."

 

did lou really say that?

 

If he did, I can't see Lou allowing anyone to quote him saying that. Remember, Wikipedia is public and anyone can edit a page.

 

i think everyone knows wikipedia is public, thank you. i just hadn't read anywhere that that had been said before.

 

hendry is so frustrating in these deals because it's like he fashions himself an alchemist, since the hundley/ramirez/lee deals, that he can go out and find 'overlooked' players and turn them into something.

 

however, i'm going to hold my opinion on this one. most people here would probably be of the mind that pitching is what wins championships, and if it takes losing some offense at the catcher position to comfort the staff, and help them pitch better, then i am all for it. and besides, it's not like barrett was lighting the world ablaze this year. and iirc, baseball prospectus had mentioned that his downslide would start this year and it wouldn't be exactly pretty (though i'm not looking at my book right now and could be wrong).

 

that burke, on the other hand... :cry:

[TruffleShuffle]

Bowen's BABIP is .385. That should tell you something.

 

That said, he can draw a walk and hit for a little power, and his PECOTA projections are around a .700 OPS, which isn't terrible, though the OBP part (~.320) is nothing to write home about. The part that doesn't make a whole lot of sense is that he profiles to be the same type of player as Soto, so really what's the point in trading for a guy that you already have.

[E.J.]

Has anyone heard that this deal originally included Greene? I just read it on another board.

 

Why would we want Greene? We already have SS who can't hit.

[inari]

For anyone that hasn't heard yet, which I'm sure is most people, Rob Bowen will be wearing #4.

[TruffleShuffle]

and iirc, baseball prospectus had mentioned that his downslide would start this year and it wouldn't be exactly pretty (though i'm not looking at my book right now and could be wrong).

 

It did, but his equivalent averages still outpaced bowen easily. That said, given his poor defense and questionable relationship with some of the staff's pitchers, it might not have been worth the price to sign him.

[E.J.]

Bowen's BABIP is .385. That should tell you something.

 

That said, he can draw a walk and hit for a little power, and his PECOTA projections are around a .700 OPS, which isn't terrible, though the OBP part (~.320) is nothing to write home about. The part that doesn't make a whole lot of sense is that he profiles to be the same type of player as Soto, so really what's the point in trading for a guy that you already have.

 

Come on. Dude's a switch hitter. We're set.

[Soriano12]

I really got excited when I thought Linebrink was in this deal, I would have even been fine with giving up Epatt to get him.(Considering the Cubs are toying with the idea of moving him to LF and killing his value)

[inari]

Has anyone heard that this deal originally included Greene? I just read it on another board.

 

Why would we want Greene? We already have SS who can't hit.

 

At least Greene hits for power and plays some legitimately good defense.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

Has anyone heard that this deal originally included Greene? I just read it on another board.

 

Why would we want Greene? We already have SS who can't hit.

 

Greene has more RGI