Dunn on the market

[RynoRules]

As much as I would like Dunn, there's no room for him here.

 

Then make room. Murton and Floyd are very tradeable.

[TruffleShuffle]

As much as I would like Dunn, there's no room for him here.

 

Then make room. Murton and Floyd are very tradeable.

 

As someone mentioned, Murton and Floyd shouldn't be hugely worse than Dunn, and the difference in production won't make the price worth it. Plus having Dunn in LF with a staff that includes Rich Hill and Ted Lilly could be pretty scary.

[Banedon]

Dunn drives in runs with his glove.

[wade]

If Dunn's on the block, the Tigers should make a strong move for him and have him play first. They have the need and they have the chips to trade.

 

I agree with Vance, if Soriano will move to right, then the Cubs could do it, but I think the ownership concerns and a likely hesitance from the Reds of trading within the division will keep it from happening.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If Dunn's on the block, the Tigers should make a strong move for him and have him play first. They have the need and they have the chips to trade.

 

I agree with Vance, if Soriano will move to right, then the Cubs could do it, but I think the ownership concerns and a likely hesitance from the Reds of trading within the division will keep it from happening.

 

I doubt the Reds would have problems trading within the division considering Dunn will be a FA. My guess is they would not allow a window to work out a contract extension prior to trade within the division, however.

[wade]

If Dunn's on the block, the Tigers should make a strong move for him and have him play first. They have the need and they have the chips to trade.

 

I agree with Vance, if Soriano will move to right, then the Cubs could do it, but I think the ownership concerns and a likely hesitance from the Reds of trading within the division will keep it from happening.

 

I doubt the Reds would have problems trading within the division considering Dunn will be a FA. My guess is they would not allow a window to work out a contract extension prior to trade within the division, however.

 

Maybe they wouldn't. It'll be interesting to see if the Reds get aggresive. If they dealt Dunn and Griffey they'd have tons of money to spend in the off-season and would get a big batch of young talent in return.

 

Of course, if they just trade for middle relievers, it's not going to help them at all.

[Derwood]

Dunn drives in runs with his glove.

 

for the other team

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If Dunn's on the block, the Tigers should make a strong move for him and have him play first. They have the need and they have the chips to trade.

 

I agree with Vance, if Soriano will move to right, then the Cubs could do it, but I think the ownership concerns and a likely hesitance from the Reds of trading within the division will keep it from happening.

 

I doubt the Reds would have problems trading within the division considering Dunn will be a FA. My guess is they would not allow a window to work out a contract extension prior to trade within the division, however.

 

Maybe they wouldn't. It'll be interesting to see if the Reds get aggresive. If they dealt Dunn and Griffey they'd have tons of money to spend in the off-season and would get a big batch of young talent in return.

 

Of course, if they just trade for middle relievers, it's not going to help them at all.

 

I found it interesting yesterday hearing Peter Gammons speak on the subject. He thinks it is more likely that Dunn is moved than Griffey. In his opinion, Reds fans come to the park to see Griffey. So he thinks the Reds would ask for more in a trade for Griffey than they would for Dunn.

[wade]

If Dunn's on the block, the Tigers should make a strong move for him and have him play first. They have the need and they have the chips to trade.

 

I agree with Vance, if Soriano will move to right, then the Cubs could do it, but I think the ownership concerns and a likely hesitance from the Reds of trading within the division will keep it from happening.

 

I doubt the Reds would have problems trading within the division considering Dunn will be a FA. My guess is they would not allow a window to work out a contract extension prior to trade within the division, however.

 

Maybe they wouldn't. It'll be interesting to see if the Reds get aggresive. If they dealt Dunn and Griffey they'd have tons of money to spend in the off-season and would get a big batch of young talent in return.

 

Of course, if they just trade for middle relievers, it's not going to help them at all.

 

I found it interesting yesterday hearing Peter Gammons speak on the subject. He thinks it is more likely that Dunn is moved than Griffey. In his opinion, Reds fans come to the park to see Griffey. So he thinks the Reds would ask for more in a trade for Griffey than they would for Dunn.

 

I think he's got a point there. I've been to a few games at GAB already this year, and Reds fans love Griffey and are less than enamored with Dunn. I think the fanbase would choose Dunn over Griffey all day to trade.

[rocket]

I think he's got a point there. I've been to a few games at GAB already this year, and Reds fans love Griffey and are less than enamored with Dunn. I think the fanbase would choose Dunn over Griffey all day to trade.

 

the reds fans i know hate dunn, and pretty much blame their team's struggles on dunn's bad defense and strikeouts.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think he's got a point there. I've been to a few games at GAB already this year, and Reds fans love Griffey and are less than enamored with Dunn. I think the fanbase would choose Dunn over Griffey all day to trade.

 

the reds fans i know hate dunn, and pretty much blame their team's struggles on dunn's bad defense and strikeouts.

 

From the few times I've heard their radio team on XM, I think the announcers blame him as well.

[rawaction]

Dunn's as good as gone. Josh Hamilton has shown to be the exact same player, with less OBP and more defense. No way do the Reds re-sign Dunn. No way do they get nothing for him when they are a last place type of team.

 

I'll go out on a limb and say he'll be traded by the end of June.

[rocket]

I think he's got a point there. I've been to a few games at GAB already this year, and Reds fans love Griffey and are less than enamored with Dunn. I think the fanbase would choose Dunn over Griffey all day to trade.

 

the reds fans i know hate dunn, and pretty much blame their team's struggles on dunn's bad defense and strikeouts.

 

From the few times I've heard their radio team on XM, I think the announcers blame him as well.

 

yeah, marty brenneman has a ridiculous hatred for dunn.

 

but you should hear him gush whenever juan castro grounds out to second to advance a runner to 3rd base.

[wade]

I think he's got a point there. I've been to a few games at GAB already this year, and Reds fans love Griffey and are less than enamored with Dunn. I think the fanbase would choose Dunn over Griffey all day to trade.

 

the reds fans i know hate dunn, and pretty much blame their team's struggles on dunn's bad defense and strikeouts.

 

From the few times I've heard their radio team on XM, I think the announcers blame him as well.

 

yeah, marty brenneman has a ridiculous hatred for dunn.

 

but you should hear him gush whenever juan castro grounds out to second to advance a runner to 3rd base.

 

Marty hates the whole team when they're losing like they are, but yeah, he loathes him some Adam Dunn.

[Balsa]

As much as I would like Dunn, there's no room for him here.

 

Then make room. Murton and Floyd are very tradeable.

How can you be sure that Soriano to RF would work? His CF experiment was not so great, and whether it was coincidence or Soriano just needing certain factors to feel comfortable (leadoff spot), I think it's a very risky proposition.

 

Not to mention our outfield defense would absolutely blow chunks, and that I doubt Krivsky would trade within the division and have his own version of Aramis Ramirez on his hands.

[Soriano12]

With the range of Soriano and Pie, IMO you could get away with Dunn in RF. I'd love to see Dunn in a Cubs uniform, though he would get roasted by ignorant Cub fans and media that would only look at his BA.

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

If Dunn's on the block, the Tigers should make a strong move for him and have him play first. They have the need and they have the chips to trade.

 

I agree with Vance, if Soriano will move to right, then the Cubs could do it, but I think the ownership concerns and a likely hesitance from the Reds of trading within the division will keep it from happening.

 

I doubt the Reds would have problems trading within the division considering Dunn will be a FA. My guess is they would not allow a window to work out a contract extension prior to trade within the division, however.

 

Maybe they wouldn't. It'll be interesting to see if the Reds get aggresive. If they dealt Dunn and Griffey they'd have tons of money to spend in the off-season and would get a big batch of young talent in return.

 

Of course, if they just trade for middle relievers, it's not going to help them at all.

 

I found it interesting yesterday hearing Peter Gammons speak on the subject. He thinks it is more likely that Dunn is moved than Griffey. In his opinion, Reds fans come to the park to see Griffey. So he thinks the Reds would ask for more in a trade for Griffey than they would for Dunn.

 

Steve Phillips mentioned on SC that he believes bith Dunn and Griffey could be moved and that it would probably be Dunn if only one was moved. However, he seems to not like Dunn very much mentioning that he "kills rallies".

 

Steve Phillips not a big Dunn fan = more reason for a team to trade for him.

[sunnydoo]

However, he seems to not like Dunn very much mentioning that he "kills rallies".

 

Steve Phillips not a big Dunn fan = more reason for a team to trade for him.

 

The rally killer label is something that you can blame the saber geeks for in this case. Dunn's Babip is very avg. career wise. He seemingly only walks, k's, and hits HR. Some GMs only really want guys who can put the ball into play....but obviously Hendry isnt one of those guys.

 

Havent looked at it in a while, but would be interested to see how the shift has been affecting his avg. Either way, there is cause for concern for a team in getting him that needs him to advance runners ie continue rallys(most contenders have multiple run producers) instead of just driving them in (only 1 or 2 run producers).

 

The Cubs however dont have the money long term to do a deal (with the impending sale) b/c a new contract would have to be worked out as his options for 08 and 09 are voided upon trade and it just wouldnt make sense to do it for just this year.

 

And i really dislike Steve Phillips- not only as a GM, but as a human being.

[TruffleShuffle]

The rally killer label is something that you can blame the saber geeks for in this case.

 

Uh, I'm pretty sure that the "saber geeks" would laugh at the concept of Adam Dunn being a rally killer.

[wade]

The rally killer label is something that you can blame the saber geeks for in this case.

 

Uh, I'm pretty sure that the "saber geeks" would laugh at the concept of Adam Dunn being a rally killer.

 

That's what I was gonna say. Jeff Brantley does some work for the Reds and I specifically remember about two weeks ago he said, after a David Ross solo homer with the club down three, "you know, sometimes solo homers can be rally killers."

 

Jeff Brantley is no saber geek.

[shnsajax]

I still think Dunn is very overvalued in payroll, cost in prospects, and it all going in the same division.

[jersey cubs fan]

I still think Dunn is very overvalued in payroll, cost in prospects, and it all going in the same division.

 

Whose payroll? I think his current salary would work nicely into the Cubs' payroll. But I think his next contract would fit in much better with an AL team.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Maybe we can convice Krivsky that Jones and Eyre would be better for his team than Dunn...:lol:

[Drew Doughty]

The rally killer label is something that you can blame the saber geeks for in this case.

 

Uh, I'm pretty sure that the "saber geeks" would laugh at the concept of Adam Dunn being a rally killer.

 

on top of that, i don't think any "saber geek" would be dumb enough to cite babip as any indication of the worth of a player.

[Balsa]

I can see sometimes where you'd want to keep a pitcher in the stretch, but I can't ever see turning down an automatic run.