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Man, I really don't like Pagan at all. Never have, doubt I ever will. Hopefully he shuts me up today with a good performance.

 

but, but he's carlos beltran jr.!

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Man, I really don't like Pagan at all. Never have, doubt I ever will. Hopefully he shuts me up today with a good performance.

 

but, but he's carlos beltran jr.!

 

And has beaten Jose Reyes in a footrace.

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Worse defensive OF?

 

Soriano, Jones, Floyd

 

or

 

Bay, Nady, Doumit

 

i don't know that pagan helps much.

 

No, but Murton in RF is a lot better than Floyd.

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Man, I really don't like Pagan at all. Never have, doubt I ever will. Hopefully he shuts me up today with a good performance.

 

but, but he's carlos beltran jr.!

 

And has beaten Jose Reyes in a footrace.

 

Pagan will hit for the cycle today

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How much do you want to bet that Pagan suddenly starts 2 or 3 games a week (when Pie couldn't buy an at-bat)?

 

I'm looking forward to this game for no other reason than the fact that I can hear Len and Bob instead of the idiotic Pirate announcers

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Man, I really don't like Pagan at all. Never have, doubt I ever will. Hopefully he shuts me up today with a good performance.

 

but, but he's carlos beltran jr.!

 

And has beaten Jose Reyes in a footrace.

 

Pagan will hit for the cycle today

 

 

Pagan will also deliver a baby in the bleachers and teach it how to beat Jose Reyes in a footrace all during the seventh inning stretch

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No kidding. Pagan? DeRosa, Izturis and Pagan? Yuck. I hope they prove me wrong, but that sounds like a real "triple threat." Right.
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How much do you want to bet that Pagan suddenly starts 2 or 3 games a week (when Pie couldn't buy an at-bat)?

 

I'm looking forward to this game for no other reason than the fact that I can hear Len and Bob instead of the idiotic Pirate announcers

 

Pagan probably will start 1-2 games a week-that's about the average amount of times the team should face a left-hander, and Pagan was brought up to play against LHP.

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Let the overreaction to Pagan being called up...BEGIN!

 

you're late to the party, it's been going on for an hour now

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No kidding. Pagan? DeRosa, Izturis and Pagan? Yuck. I hope they prove me wrong, but that sounds like a real "triple threat." Right.

 

Why the hatred for DeRosa? I know he's not great, but he's not nearly as bad as a lot of people make him out to be.

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Pagan would be hard-pressed to perform worse than Jones did last night. At least Pagan is someone I wouldn't mind the Cubs using like they used Pie. Late inning defensive replacement (although he's not much better defensively than Jones), pinch runner, 25th man. And Pie can start every day and get 3-4 plate appearances a day.
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How much do you want to bet that Pagan suddenly starts 2 or 3 games a week (when Pie couldn't buy an at-bat)?

 

I'm looking forward to this game for no other reason than the fact that I can hear Len and Bob instead of the idiotic Pirate announcers

 

Pagan probably will start 1-2 games a week-that's about the average amount of times the team should face a left-hander, and Pagan was brought up to play against LHP.

 

That makes no sense...Pagan was terrible vs LHP last season.

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How much do you want to bet that Pagan suddenly starts 2 or 3 games a week (when Pie couldn't buy an at-bat)?

 

I'm looking forward to this game for no other reason than the fact that I can hear Len and Bob instead of the idiotic Pirate announcers

 

Pagan probably will start 1-2 games a week-that's about the average amount of times the team should face a left-hander, and Pagan was brought up to play against LHP.

 

That makes no sense...Pagan was terrible vs LHP last season.

 

So is Jones, and so is Pie. It's not a great option, but it will hopefully be a small improvement, and Pagan has been good against LHP so far this year in the minors.

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How much do you want to bet that Pagan suddenly starts 2 or 3 games a week (when Pie couldn't buy an at-bat)?

 

I'm looking forward to this game for no other reason than the fact that I can hear Len and Bob instead of the idiotic Pirate announcers

 

Pagan probably will start 1-2 games a week-that's about the average amount of times the team should face a left-hander, and Pagan was brought up to play against LHP.

 

That makes no sense...Pagan was terrible vs LHP last season.

 

So is Jones, and so is Pie. It's not a great option, but it will hopefully be a small improvement, and Pagan has been good against LHP so far this year in the minors.

 

 

Why not Chris Walker then? He provides better defense than Pagan, is a better base stealer, and hits for higher average

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I'm fine with this. Let's get Felix some ABs. Pagan can be the defensive replacement guy, and it's one less outfielder in the giant logjam out there.
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How much do you want to bet that Pagan suddenly starts 2 or 3 games a week (when Pie couldn't buy an at-bat)?

 

I'm looking forward to this game for no other reason than the fact that I can hear Len and Bob instead of the idiotic Pirate announcers

 

Pagan probably will start 1-2 games a week-that's about the average amount of times the team should face a left-hander, and Pagan was brought up to play against LHP.

 

That makes no sense...Pagan was terrible vs LHP last season.

 

So is Jones, and so is Pie. It's not a great option, but it will hopefully be a small improvement, and Pagan has been good against LHP so far this year in the minors.

 

The thing that seperates those 3 is that Felix Pie is your best defender. Felix Pie is your CF of the future. Felix Pie should get the chance to be your everyday CF until he proves otherwise.

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How much do you want to bet that Pagan suddenly starts 2 or 3 games a week (when Pie couldn't buy an at-bat)?

 

I'm looking forward to this game for no other reason than the fact that I can hear Len and Bob instead of the idiotic Pirate announcers

 

Pagan probably will start 1-2 games a week-that's about the average amount of times the team should face a left-hander, and Pagan was brought up to play against LHP.

 

That makes no sense...Pagan was terrible vs LHP last season.

 

So is Jones, and so is Pie. It's not a great option, but it will hopefully be a small improvement, and Pagan has been good against LHP so far this year in the minors.

 

The thing that seperates those 3 is that Felix Pie is your best defender. Felix Pie is your CF of the future. Felix Pie should get the chance to be your everyday CF until he proves otherwise.

 

agreed

 

pagan...blah...what the crap...can we just freakin trade jones already

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Pagan is not exactly that great, but if that means Pie will get more ABs down in Iowa, I'm all for it. Pagan is the #5 OF, I have no problem with him at that position.
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How much do you want to bet that Pagan suddenly starts 2 or 3 games a week (when Pie couldn't buy an at-bat)?

 

I'm looking forward to this game for no other reason than the fact that I can hear Len and Bob instead of the idiotic Pirate announcers

 

Pagan probably will start 1-2 games a week-that's about the average amount of times the team should face a left-hander, and Pagan was brought up to play against LHP.

 

That makes no sense...Pagan was terrible vs LHP last season.

 

So is Jones, and so is Pie. It's not a great option, but it will hopefully be a small improvement, and Pagan has been good against LHP so far this year in the minors.

 

The thing that seperates those 3 is that Felix Pie is your best defender. Felix Pie is your CF of the future. Felix Pie should get the chance to be your everyday CF until he proves otherwise.

 

or he should get ABs everyday. which he isn't getting here. putting him in against lefties only sets him up to fail, which is a horrible idea. pagan sucks, yes, but he's a better option to fit the role of CF v. lefties/pinch runner than pie.

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