Cardinals Pitcher Josh Hancock Dies in Car Crash

[abuck1220]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

[Soriano12]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

 

If you truly think that the owner of the stalled car should be held responsible, than you are seriously delusional.

[davearm]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

Exactly.

 

Look, several different people may have acted negligently that night.

 

Josh Hancock absolutely, positively did. And much more so than anyone else involved. Nobody's disputing that.

 

The bar, bar manager, tow truck driver, and stalled vehicle owner may or may not have also acted negligently. That's TBD.

 

But here's the key: the law does not prescribe that only the *most* negligent party can be held liable. The law prescribes that *all* negligent parties can be held liable.

[ctcf]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

It should be rather obvious why people would see it as unfair. The negligence of the other people, if there even was any, pales in comparison to that of Hancock's. I noticed plenty of other cars going by just fine in that video, yet he crashes because A.) He was very drunk B.) He was high C.) Idiot of the highest degree. Its hard to place blame in small areas like who put out enough road flares or something when the person who crashed shouldn't have been behind the wheel of a car to begin with.

 

The basic fact is, this accident wouldn't have happened if Josh Hancock hadn't made horrible decisions that ultimately cost him his life and its really hard to say that these other people should be punished as a result.

[davearm]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

 

If you truly think that the owner of the stalled car should be held responsible, than you are seriously delusional.

What's the legal precedent for a finding of negligence stemming from abandoning a vehicle in the left hand lane of a highway?

 

I don't know, and I feel pretty comfortable assuming that you don't, either.

[ctcf]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

Exactly.

 

Look, several different people may have acted negligently that night.

 

Josh Hancock absolutely, positively did. And much more so than anyone else involved. Nobody's disputing that.

 

The bar, bar manager, tow truck driver, and stalled vehicle owner may or may not have also acted negligently. That's TBD.

 

But here's the key: the law does not prescribe that only the *most* negligent party can be held liable. The law prescribes that *all* negligent parties can be held liable.

 

There is however discretion in the law whether people want to acknowledge it or not. And what freaking bar hasn't "over served" someone? If he was able to sue them for that every drunk who even gets in a fender bender could by that logic sue the bar they just drank at.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

If he was able to sue them for that every drunk who even gets in a fender bender could by that logic sue the bar they just drank at.

 

they can

[seanimal]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

 

If you truly think that the owner of the stalled car should be held responsible, than you are seriously delusional.

What's the legal precedent for a finding of negligence stemming from abandoning a vehicle in the left hand lane of a highway?

 

I don't know, and I feel pretty comfortable assuming that you don't, either.

 

The vehicle wasn't abandoned, and there was no shoulder on the highway, meaning there was no other place for the driver to go. The tow-truck driver had very recently arrived on the scene prior to Josh Hancock slamming into the back of it. Are we really suggesting that the tow truck driver should have been behind his vehicle placing flairs and triangles? If so, he would be dead too. Awesome.

[ctcf]

If he was able to sue them for that every drunk who even gets in a fender bender could by that logic sue the bar they just drank at.

 

they can

Thats incredibly sad.

 

It might sound cold but I really hope that father doesn't get a cent.

[TruffleShuffle]

i don't see what's so appalling about this.

 

I see a guy trying to profit off his son's death. Probably doing the same things he did when his son was alive, by blaming others for his kids' failings.

 

so the bar shouldn't be held accountable for their negligence?

Negligence??!?! What the hell are you talking about? Please. Stop. Talking.

 

Just because Josh Hancock died while behaving in a negligent manner (drinking, high, talking on cell phone) doesn't necessarily off the hook if they also were negligent. I'm not even a lawyer and I understand this. If this is over your head, then perhaps you should follow your own advice about not talking.

[Soriano12]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

 

If you truly think that the owner of the stalled car should be held responsible, than you are seriously delusional.

What's the legal precedent for a finding of negligence stemming from abandoning a vehicle in the left hand lane of a highway?

 

I don't know, and I feel pretty comfortable assuming that you don't, either.

 

Like I said, all it will take is some little "rat faced" lawyer, and some liberal judge, and Handocks dad will be a rich man. That still doesn't mean it is right to hold the tow truck driver and car owner accountable.

 

Its disgusting, and basically an examble of the trend in today's society of no accountability.

[davearm]

The basic fact is, this accident wouldn't have happened if Josh Hancock hadn't made horrible decisions that ultimately cost him his life and its really hard to say that these other people should be punished as a result.

It's anything but fact that this accident wouldn't have occured if Hancock was stone cold sober and not talking on a cellphone. There's no earthly way to conclude that.

 

For all we know, the car behind him would've gotten munched instead if Hancock had managed to avoid it.

[abuck1220]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

 

If you truly think that the owner of the stalled car should be held responsible, than you are seriously delusional.

What's the legal precedent for a finding of negligence stemming from abandoning a vehicle in the left hand lane of a highway?

 

I don't know, and I feel pretty comfortable assuming that you don't, either.

 

Like I said, all it will take is some little "rat faced" lawyer, and some liberal judge, and Handocks dad will be a rich man. That still doesn't mean it is right to hold the tow truck driver and car owner accountable.

 

Its disgusting, and basically an examble of the trend in today's society of no accountability.

 

dude, you really just need to shut up. you clearly are just talking out your ass with no basis for what you are saying. you know nothing about the law, so stop posting like you do. my goodness.

[TruffleShuffle]

The vehicle wasn't abandoned, and there was no shoulder on the highway, meaning there was no other place for the driver to go. The tow-truck driver had very recently arrived on the scene prior to Josh Hancock slamming into the back of it. Are we really suggesting that the tow truck driver should have been behind his vehicle placing flairs and triangles? If so, he would be dead too. Awesome.

 

Have you ever been on a highway going 60-70 mph and come up on an object in your lane that is stopped? When you're going 100 feet per second, it's extremely dangerous, and it's not like you're driving down the highway expecting to have vehicles parked on it. I think the tow truck driver did the right thing by shielding the other vehicle with his larger one, but if he had time, he should have put flares up.

[Soriano12]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

 

If you truly think that the owner of the stalled car should be held responsible, than you are seriously delusional.

What's the legal precedent for a finding of negligence stemming from abandoning a vehicle in the left hand lane of a highway?

 

I don't know, and I feel pretty comfortable assuming that you don't, either.

 

Like I said, all it will take is some little "rat faced" lawyer, and some liberal judge, and Handocks dad will be a rich man. That still doesn't mean it is right to hold the tow truck driver and car owner accountable.

 

Its disgusting, and basically an examble of the trend in today's society of no accountability.

 

dude, you really just need to shut up. you clearly are just talking out your ass with no basis for what you are saying. you know nothing about the law, so stop posting like you do. my goodness.

 

I'm not talking about the law, I'm talking about right and wrong. So if you really think that the stalled car and driver are partly responsible for this then you are pathetic.

[TruffleShuffle]

Like I said, all it will take is some little "rat faced" lawyer, and some liberal judge, and Handocks dad will be a rich man. That still doesn't mean it is right to hold the tow truck driver and car owner accountable.

 

wow. did you forget to take your meds today?

[davearm]

If he was able to sue them for that every drunk who even gets in a fender bender could by that logic sue the bar they just drank at.

 

they can

Thats incredibly sad.

 

It might sound cold but I really hope that father doesn't get a cent.

How is that incredibly sad?

 

Bars/bartenders are not supposed to overserve folks precisely so that situations like this can be avoided.

[Mizzou]

I can maybe see sueing the bar (despite their attempts to get him a cab), but to try and sue the tow truck driver and especially the driver of the stalled car is ridiculous.

[abuck1220]

 

I think they should sue the Cell Phone Provider too, becuase if they had provided him a headset with his new service agreement, this accident might have never happened.

 

Please. Stop. Talking.

 

you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

like it or not, if these parties were negligent and if their negligence contributed to his death, they're going to be held responsible. i don't know why that's so hard to understand and why everyone thinks it's so unfair.

 

If you truly think that the owner of the stalled car should be held responsible, than you are seriously delusional.

What's the legal precedent for a finding of negligence stemming from abandoning a vehicle in the left hand lane of a highway?

 

I don't know, and I feel pretty comfortable assuming that you don't, either.

 

Like I said, all it will take is some little "rat faced" lawyer, and some liberal judge, and Handocks dad will be a rich man. That still doesn't mean it is right to hold the tow truck driver and car owner accountable.

 

Its disgusting, and basically an examble of the trend in today's society of no accountability.

 

dude, you really just need to shut up. you clearly are just talking out your ass with no basis for what you are saying. you know nothing about the law, so stop posting like you do. my goodness.

 

I'm not talking about the law, I'm talking about right and wrong. So if you really think that the stalled car and driver are partly responsible for this then you are pathetic.

 

you are definitely talking about the law. and you definitely are ignorant about the subject.

[abuck1220]

I can maybe see sueing the bar (despite their attempts to get him a cab), but to try and sue the tow truck driver and especially the driver of the stalled car is ridiculous.

 

if hancock wasn't drunk and the tow truck driver/driver was negligent, would you be ok with suing them?

[davearm]

Like I said, all it will take is some little "rat faced" lawyer, and some liberal judge, and Handocks dad will be a rich man. That still doesn't mean it is right to hold the tow truck driver and car owner accountable.

 

Its disgusting, and basically an examble of the trend in today's society of no accountability.

The exact opposite is true, actually.

 

Everyone that contributed to this dangerous situation is being held accountable.

[ctcf]

If he was able to sue them for that every drunk who even gets in a fender bender could by that logic sue the bar they just drank at.

 

they can

Thats incredibly sad.

 

It might sound cold but I really hope that father doesn't get a cent.

How is that incredibly sad?

 

Bars/bartenders are not supposed to overserve folks precisely so that situations like this can be avoided.

 

Perhaps because I think the drinker himself should be just as much and probably more accountable for his actions than the bartender.

[TruffleShuffle]

I'm not talking about the law, I'm talking about right and wrong. So if you really think that the stalled car and driver are partly responsible for this then you are pathetic.

 

let me guess, you also think the mcdonald's coffee lawsuit was completely ridiculous too.

[ctcf]

The basic fact is, this accident wouldn't have happened if Josh Hancock hadn't made horrible decisions that ultimately cost him his life and its really hard to say that these other people should be punished as a result.

It's anything but fact that this accident wouldn't have occured if Hancock was stone cold sober and not talking on a cellphone. There's no earthly way to conclude that.

 

For all we know, the car behind him would've gotten munched instead if Hancock had managed to avoid it.

 

In the security cam video I saw a bunch of other cars get by that tow truck. Willing to bet those drivers were sober.

[Soriano12]

I'm not talking about the law, I'm talking about right and wrong. So if you really think that the stalled car and driver are partly responsible for this then you are pathetic.

 

let me guess, you also think the mcdonald's coffee lawsuit was completely ridiculous too.

 

It was. Let me guess, you are someone that likes to never accept resposiblity in life. To each their own.