Stoney says Lou is the best manager the Cubs have ever had..

[Rob]

We had a manager known as "The Peerless Leader."

 

I'm kinda inclined to stick with him as our "best ever."

[ToupeeOnFire]

I would say the greatest Cub manager of all-time was Joe McCarthy. Naturally, the Cubs fired him and he would only go on to win something like 7 world series titles. Although Charlie Grimm, who would follow him a couple of years later, was fine manager in his own right and led them to their last NL pennant (4 total).

 

I know some of a certain age might be partial to Leo Durocher. In recent years, it has been such a revolving door, it is hard to get a gauge on any of them. There comes a point where it is not so much the manager as it is the organization.

 

I'm kind of partial to the college of coaches though, because eight minds are better than one.

[Wilson A2000]

The Cubs don't believe they have faith in their farm system? How about they don't know how to groom young players. They can't evaluate talent. With that said the Cubs got Lee, Ramirez, and Barrett by giving up prospects.

[sunnydoo]

This isnt even close:

 

Joe McCarthy

 

 

then a ways back

 

Frank Chance

 

 

then everyone else.

[ToupeeOnFire]

Also, as far as Zimmer, I wouldn't call him a great manager, or even a good one. I view it like poker, you can make poor decisions, but still win with a lucky run of cards. That was Zimmer in 1989. It was fun while it lasted, but his act got pretty old pretty quickly.

[Wilson A2000]

Derocher!

[Sammy Sofa]

Steve Stone is clearly an idiot.

[ConstableRabbit]

Stone's an idiot.

 

He'd be a terrible GM..

 

He knows nothing about Baseball.

 

I'm glad he's gone.

 

His voice is annoying.

 

:roll:

 

 

(Did I cover all of them? It is what this thread will turn into.)

 

Just 3 out of 5, man. Please -- what do you take me for?

[tubbfan]

Also, as far as Zimmer, I wouldn't call him a great manager, or even a good one. I view it like poker, you can make poor decisions, but still win with a lucky run of cards. That was Zimmer in 1989. It was fun while it lasted, but his act got pretty old pretty quickly.

 

I couldn't agree more with this post! A poor decision maker when it came to his pitchers . . . that was him! Although, the Cubs weren't going to beat the Giants that year ('89) and then they wouldn't have beaten LaRussa's A's either.

 

I go back to Durocher's last year. Not much to be proud of there (with the exception of Jim Frey).

[Soul]

Derocher!

 

Had multiple hall of famers on the same roster, yet never made the playoffs once. Abandoned the team in 1969 for God-knows-what reason.

 

He was terrible. Probably one of the worst ever.

[seanimal]

Charlie Grimm

[WrigleyField 22]

Jim Riggleman FTW!

[USSoccer]

Jim Riggleman took a terrible team to the playoffs in 1998, and kept an even more terrible team in contention for 3 months in 1999. He completely shut Kerry Wood down rather than risk him to win a Wild Card berth and only used him in game 3 due to management pressure. He had a pitching staff made up of garbage and more garbage, and only 2.5 position players worth anything.

 

He's the best manager in recent Cubs history, without question.

[98navigator]

Stone did not say Lou Piniella was the best manager the Cubs have ever had. He said Piniella is the best manager "perhaps since Leo Durocher."

 

Podcast

 

listen at the 53:54 mark

 

There's plenty of other debatable material...

[CubinNY]

Frank Chance and his liquer bottle.

[C.C.]

Don Zimmer...Thread closed.