4/10 Post Game Thread: Come on

[Derwood]

But it extends the inning, no?

 

But that doesn't affect those stats. You can't give up 3 earned runs in the first and pretend to not share in the blame of a loss.

 

Sure, but it wasn't a poor outing.

 

No, it wasn't poor, it was terrible.

 

cool, so anyone who doesn't pitch complete game shutouts is terrible? Just so I know so we can move forward

[jersey cubs fan]

But it extends the inning, no?

 

But that doesn't affect those stats. You can't give up 3 earned runs in the first and pretend to not share in the blame of a loss.

 

Sure, but it wasn't a poor outing.

 

No, it wasn't poor, it was terrible.

 

So giving up 3 ER's is terrible? Sure.

 

5.40 ERA

1.60 WHIP

 

Why is this so hard to understand?

[CubColtPacer]

I can understand the duality of the performance of Marquis. He definitely was one of the factors for the loss, and it wasn't a good outing by him. At the same time, it was an encouraging outing for the future by the way he bounced back-no hits after the first is a nice sign to see. So if you're just looking at the performance as how it affects today's game, then Marquis wasn't good-if you're looking at an indicator for Marquis as a whole, then I think it was pretty good.

[C.C.]

But it extends the inning, no?

 

But that doesn't affect those stats. You can't give up 3 earned runs in the first and pretend to not share in the blame of a loss.

 

Sure, but it wasn't a poor outing.

 

No, it wasn't poor, it was terrible.

 

cool, so anyone who doesn't pitch complete game shutouts is terrible? Just so I know so we can move forward

 

It's amazing how people are exepecting a Cy Young performce from Marquis every start.

[Chocolate Milk]

But it extends the inning, no?

 

But that doesn't affect those stats. You can't give up 3 earned runs in the first and pretend to not share in the blame of a loss.

 

Sure, but it wasn't a poor outing.

 

No, it wasn't poor, it was terrible.

 

He bounced back from a bad first inning. I think there is something positive to be taken away from his performance today.

 

I would also say poor and not terrible. I think he managed to prevent a terrible outing by boucning back from a shakey start. But that is splitting hairs on my part.

[Soriano12]

Shame on Marquis for not pitching a shutout today.

 

 

5.40 ERA

1.60 WHIP

 

I guess people think that's good around here.

 

He kept us in the game today. The pathetic offense deserves most of the blame.

[CubinNY]

But it extends the inning, no?

 

But that doesn't affect those stats. You can't give up 3 earned runs in the first and pretend to not share in the blame of a loss.

 

Sure, but it wasn't a poor outing.

 

No, it wasn't poor, it was terrible.

 

So giving up 3 ER's is terrible? Sure.

It's all subjective labels. But it's not 3 ERs it's 3 ERs in x innings. Anyway, he ptched well after he gave up the runs in the first and before he started walking people. Overall, not a good outing, IMO.

[jersey cubs fan]

But it extends the inning, no?

 

But that doesn't affect those stats. You can't give up 3 earned runs in the first and pretend to not share in the blame of a loss.

 

Sure, but it wasn't a poor outing.

 

No, it wasn't poor, it was terrible.

 

cool, so anyone who doesn't pitch complete game shutouts is terrible? Just so I know so we can move forward

 

That's a freaking stupid thing to write. Just stupid.

 

There's a very big difference between 5 IP, 4 R, 3 ER and a 1.60 WHIP and a complete game shutout.

 

Don't respond with that nonsense.

[abuck1220]

good - i was right not to overreact about marquis (unlike everyone else)

 

yeah, he was brilliant today. shades of warren spahn.

[UMFan83]

Shame on Marquis for not pitching a shutout today.

 

 

5.40 ERA

1.60 WHIP

 

I guess people think that's good around here.

 

Compared to last year, its probably good.

[frostwyrm]

I think a lot of the offensive problems will take care of themselves when Fonz heats up, which should be soon. He obviously won't go the whole season as an offensive black hole, which is what he's been thus far.

[C.C.]

But it extends the inning, no?

 

But that doesn't affect those stats. You can't give up 3 earned runs in the first and pretend to not share in the blame of a loss.

 

Sure, but it wasn't a poor outing.

 

No, it wasn't poor, it was terrible.

 

cool, so anyone who doesn't pitch complete game shutouts is terrible? Just so I know so we can move forward

 

That's a freaking stupid thing to write. Just stupid.

 

There's a very big difference between 5 IP, 4 R, 3 ER and a 1.60 WHIP and a complete game shutout.

 

Don't respond with that nonsense.

 

IRONY

[jersey cubs fan]

He kept his team in this game, that's what I understand.

 

Since when is that the determinant of a good outing?

 

If the Cubs scored 7 and he gave up 9, would that be good enough?

[fiver]

Times like this you have to ask yourself:

 

You love the Cubs, but have they ever loved you back?

 

Well, they said they did in '03. :(

 

They only said that so you'd give it up....gullible..

[RichHillIsABeast]

Shame on Marquis for not pitching a shutout today.

 

 

5.40 ERA

1.60 WHIP

 

I guess people think that's good around here.

 

Compared to last year, its probably good.

 

We were in the game today. That's about all you can ask a guy like Marquis.

[CubColtPacer]

But it extends the inning, no?

 

But that doesn't affect those stats. You can't give up 3 earned runs in the first and pretend to not share in the blame of a loss.

 

Sure, but it wasn't a poor outing.

 

No, it wasn't poor, it was terrible.

 

So giving up 3 ER's is terrible? Sure.

It's all subjective labels. But it's not 3 ERs it's 3 ERs in x innings. Anyway, he ptched well after he gave up the runs in the first and before he started walking people. Overall, not a good outing, IMO.

 

I don't mind the walks in the 5th as much. He had to be a little shaken after all the errors. Walking Berkman with a man on 2nd and 1 out was all right considering how good Berkman has been against Marquis. Lee was the damaging walk on that questionable pitch, and the walk later in the inning to Burke to load the bases with 2 outs was just fine to get to Everett. So Lee is the only one in the inning I was really upset by, and he could have easily been called out on strikes as well.

[jersey cubs fan]

Shame on Marquis for not pitching a shutout today.

 

 

5.40 ERA

1.60 WHIP

 

I guess people think that's good around here.

 

Compared to last year, its probably good.

 

We were in the game today. That's about all you can ask a guy like Marquis.

 

That much is probably true. It's all you can reasonably expect. That doesnt' make it anywhere close to a good outing.

[UMFan83]

Shame on Marquis for not pitching a shutout today.

 

 

5.40 ERA

1.60 WHIP

 

I guess people think that's good around here.

 

Compared to last year, its probably good.

 

We were in the game today. That's about all you can ask a guy like Marquis.

 

No offense, but thats under the same line of thinking as "Who cares if his ERA was 6.02, he won 14 games!"

[Chocolate Milk]

I think we can all agree that Marquis didn't have a good outing. We're all arguing shades of gray here.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Shame on Marquis for not pitching a shutout today.

 

 

5.40 ERA

1.60 WHIP

 

I guess people think that's good around here.

 

Compared to last year, its probably good.

 

We were in the game today. That's about all you can ask a guy like Marquis.

 

No offense, but thats under the same line of thinking as "Who cares if his ERA was 6.02, he won 14 games!"

 

No. Marquis did his part to win the game. He go no run support. I don't know a pitcher out there who wins a game with the offense putting up goose eggs.

[jersey cubs fan]

I think we can all agree that Marquis didn't have a good outing. We're all arguing shades of gray here.

 

I'm seeing people say he was good and carries no blame.

[Chocolate Milk]

I think we can all agree that Marquis didn't have a good outing. We're all arguing shades of gray here.

 

I'm seeing people say he was good and carries no blame.

 

Replace "think" with "hope" then.

[C.C.]

Shame on Marquis for not pitching a shutout today.

 

 

5.40 ERA

1.60 WHIP

 

I guess people think that's good around here.

 

Compared to last year, its probably good.

 

We were in the game today. That's about all you can ask a guy like Marquis.

 

No offense, but thats under the same line of thinking as "Who cares if his ERA was 6.02, he won 14 games!"

 

No. Marquis did his part to win the game. He go no run support. I don't know a pitcher out there who wins a game with the offense putting up goose eggs.

 

Agreed. No use splitting hairs here.

[jersey cubs fan]

No. Marquis did his part to win the game. He go no run support. I don't know a pitcher out there who wins a game with the offense putting up goose eggs.

 

I don't know a pitcher out there who can throw up a 5 IP, 4 R, 3 ER, 1.60 WHIP game and be considered to have done his part.

[Derwood]

But it extends the inning, no?

 

But that doesn't affect those stats. You can't give up 3 earned runs in the first and pretend to not share in the blame of a loss.

 

Sure, but it wasn't a poor outing.

 

No, it wasn't poor, it was terrible.

 

cool, so anyone who doesn't pitch complete game shutouts is terrible? Just so I know so we can move forward

 

That's a freaking stupid thing to write. Just stupid.

 

There's a very big difference between 5 IP, 4 R, 3 ER and a 1.60 WHIP and a complete game shutout.

 

Don't respond with that nonsense.

 

well my exaggeration aside, what satisfies you from a guy like marquis? my guess is nothing, since you always find something bad to say about every situation