Lou on SportsCenter

[Electron Blue]

watching right now (12:30 Central), they said they have an interview coming up with Piniella (and maybe Ozzie Guillen too).

 

I'm pretty sure this Sportscenter right now is a repeat, but in case anyone missed it, it's coming up again. SOrry, if this was already posted, didn't see it.

[98navigator]

Thanks! I'm watching Lou now. It was on Sunday Conversation but I didn't see it then.

[Electron Blue]

On now.

 

Some highlights:

 

* Cubs had a lot of things go wrong with them (injuries), and only 16 games behind last year.

* Had conversation with Wood - medical people feel he's more suited for the 'pen. Bullpen is right decision, Wood agreed.

* Won't "count on" Prior, though he's very talented. If he works out, it's like "signing a #1 FA"

* Soriano is offensive force. Now more patient/selective. "Can steal 2nd and 3rd on two pitches."

* Winning with the Cubs would be "great way to end my career." Wrigley field is fun place. He "got some beers and ate some hotdogs" his last time there.

 

 

Not alot of interesting things there, but there it it. BTW, it was their Sunday conversation, so most probably already saw it I guess.

[Jazz]

On now.

 

Some highlights:

 

* Cubs had a lot of things go wrong with them (injuries), and only 16 games behind last year.

* Had conversation with Wood - medical people feel he's more suited for the 'pen. Bullpen is right decision, Wood agreed.

* Won't "count on" Prior, though he's very talented. If he works out, it's like "signing a #1 FA"

* Soriano is offensive force. Now more patient/selective. "Can steal 2nd and 3rd on two pitches."

* Winning with the Cubs would be "great way to end my career." Wrigley field is fun place. He "got some beers and ate some hotdogs" his last time there.

 

 

Not alot of interesting things there, but there it it. BTW, it was their Sunday conversation, so most probably already saw it I guess.

 

love that quote.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

On now.

 

Some highlights:

 

* Cubs had a lot of things go wrong with them (injuries), and only 16 games behind last year.

* Had conversation with Wood - medical people feel he's more suited for the 'pen. Bullpen is right decision, Wood agreed.

* Won't "count on" Prior, though he's very talented. If he works out, it's like "signing a #1 FA"

* Soriano is offensive force. Now more patient/selective. "Can steal 2nd and 3rd on two pitches."

* Winning with the Cubs would be "great way to end my career." Wrigley field is fun place. He "got some beers and ate some hotdogs" his last time there.

 

 

Not alot of interesting things there, but there it it. BTW, it was their Sunday conversation, so most probably already saw it I guess.

And I love that quote. God, I can't wait to see Soriano on the field for the Cubs.

[imb]

trying to steal third is one of the stupidest things a team can have someone do. God I hate it.

[CuseCubFan69]

trying to steal third is one of the stupidest things a team can have someone do. God I hate it.

 

I think it depends on the situation and the pitcher and/or catcher. If you have a pitcher that just is not paying attention and you get a jump it's a great move and it gets you 90 feet closer to home. Getting thrown out at third hurts.

[imb]

Its pointless. A man on second is going to score on a base hit as long as he isnt slow. And if he's slow, he shouldnt be stealing third in the first place.

 

Someone on second is already in scoring position, why risk the out just to get him more in scoring position? It's not worth it 99% of the time.

[CuseCubFan69]

Its pointless. A man on second is going to score on a base hit as long as he isnt slow. And if he's slow, he shouldnt be stealing third in the first place.

 

Someone on second is already in scoring position, why risk the out just to get him more in scoring position? It's not worth it 99% of the time.

 

How about a sac fly, wild pitch, passed ball or a ground ball? A guy at second can't score on those while a guy at third does.

[CubColtPacer]

Its pointless. A man on second is going to score on a base hit as long as he isnt slow. And if he's slow, he shouldnt be stealing third in the first place.

 

Someone on second is already in scoring position, why risk the out just to get him more in scoring position? It's not worth it 99% of the time.

 

You should only steal 3rd if you're very sure you can make it-stealing 3rd is all about getting to score on an out, not a better chance of scoring on a hit. I t shouldn't be a routine thing, but if a good basestealer gets a good jump, it can be valuable as long as their success rate stealing 3rd is very high.

[imb]

Its pointless. A man on second is going to score on a base hit as long as he isnt slow. And if he's slow, he shouldnt be stealing third in the first place.

 

Someone on second is already in scoring position, why risk the out just to get him more in scoring position? It's not worth it 99% of the time.

 

You should only steal 3rd if you're very sure you can make it-stealing 3rd is all about getting to score on an out, not a better chance of scoring on a hit. I t shouldn't be a routine thing, but if a good basestealer gets a good jump, it can be valuable as long as their success rate stealing 3rd is very high.

 

Use Lou's quote for instance. He's talking about Soriano stealing third.

He's the best basestealer on the team, but 99.99% of the time, I dont want him even thinking about stealing third with Lee, Ramirez and Jones coming up behind him.

 

Sure, a guy on third will score on a passed ball/wild pitch, whereas a guy on second won't, but how many times in a season does that happen to a team? Five? Ten? How many times will it happen when Soriano has stolen third? At best one or two? It's not worth it.

 

There will be times when you need to play for the one run, and then i would be ok with it, and that is the 0.01% of the time.

[CubColtPacer]

Its pointless. A man on second is going to score on a base hit as long as he isnt slow. And if he's slow, he shouldnt be stealing third in the first place.

 

Someone on second is already in scoring position, why risk the out just to get him more in scoring position? It's not worth it 99% of the time.

 

You should only steal 3rd if you're very sure you can make it-stealing 3rd is all about getting to score on an out, not a better chance of scoring on a hit. I t shouldn't be a routine thing, but if a good basestealer gets a good jump, it can be valuable as long as their success rate stealing 3rd is very high.

 

Use Lou's quote for instance. He's talking about Soriano stealing third.

He's the best basestealer on the team, but 99.99% of the time, I dont want him even thinking about stealing third with Lee, Ramirez and Jones coming up behind him.

 

Sure, a guy on third will score on a passed ball/wild pitch, whereas a guy on second won't, but how many times in a season does that happen to a team? Five? Ten? How many times will it happen when Soriano has stolen third? At best one or two? It's not worth it.

 

There will be times when you need to play for the one run, and then i would be ok with it, and that is the 0.01% of the time.

 

Maybe on a wild pitch or passed ball it happens 5 or 10 times, but runners score a decent amount from 3rd on a ground ball out or a sacrifice fly. I wouldn't expect Soriano to try it more than 4 or 5 times all season-the less times he tries it but remains a threat to do it, the better it is.

[CuseCubFan69]

Its pointless. A man on second is going to score on a base hit as long as he isnt slow. And if he's slow, he shouldnt be stealing third in the first place.

 

Someone on second is already in scoring position, why risk the out just to get him more in scoring position? It's not worth it 99% of the time.

 

You should only steal 3rd if you're very sure you can make it-stealing 3rd is all about getting to score on an out, not a better chance of scoring on a hit. I t shouldn't be a routine thing, but if a good basestealer gets a good jump, it can be valuable as long as their success rate stealing 3rd is very high.

 

Use Lou's quote for instance. He's talking about Soriano stealing third.

He's the best basestealer on the team, but 99.99% of the time, I dont want him even thinking about stealing third with Lee, Ramirez and Jones coming up behind him.

 

Sure, a guy on third will score on a passed ball/wild pitch, whereas a guy on second won't, but how many times in a season does that happen to a team? Five? Ten? How many times will it happen when Soriano has stolen third? At best one or two? It's not worth it.

 

There will be times when you need to play for the one run, and then i would be ok with it, and that is the 0.01% of the time.

 

I'm not advocating he do this all the time but there is a time and a place for everything and stealing third can make a difference in scoring or not scoring. How can it possibly be .01 percent of the time in playing for 1 run? Are you really saying that the game will be tied or being down by one run going into the ninth that few times? Let's say the score is 3-2 in the bottom of the 9th and Soriano is on 2nd and there is 1 out. First of all the threat of him taking off helps the batter. Second, Murton is up and hits a lot of groundballs. Soriano takes off and steals third. Murton grounds out to 2nd and he scores. Lee flys out to end the inning. The game is now tied instead of over. I think being predictable and going basically station to station is not the way to win a seemidly unwinnable game. Sometimes you have to do something out of ordinary to make something positive happen.

[imb]

How many times next season is a game going to come down to it being the ninth inning of a one run game with soriano on second and one out?

 

He's the only person that should be trying to steal third and that is just about the only situation that he should be trying it, and that situation is going to happen like 2 or 3 times during the course of the entire season.

[Knightlife_in_Lubbock]

How many times next season is a game going to come down to it being the ninth inning of a one run game with soriano on second and one out?

 

He's the only person that should be trying to steal third and that is just about the only situation that he should be trying it, and that situation is going to happen like 2 or 3 times during the course of the entire season.

 

Who cares about next season. If he can steal his and the Cubs way to the World Series this year.

[CuseCubFan69]

How many times next season is a game going to come down to it being the ninth inning of a one run game with soriano on second and one out?

 

He's the only person that should be trying to steal third and that is just about the only situation that he should be trying it, and that situation is going to happen like 2 or 3 times during the course of the entire season.

 

Maybe even Theriot could take advantage that situation. Who really knows how or when it could happen but even 2 or 3 times could make a big difference on who goes to the playoffs and who doesn't. IMO little things like this add up and could make a 5 game swing throughout the season. Not only that but as I have my rosey glasses on it also may win a playoff game. I just don't like to limit my options.

[imb]

How many times next season is a game going to come down to it being the ninth inning of a one run game with soriano on second and one out?

 

He's the only person that should be trying to steal third and that is just about the only situation that he should be trying it, and that situation is going to happen like 2 or 3 times during the course of the entire season.

 

Who cares about next season. If he can steal his and the Cubs way to the World Series this year.

 

Am I missing something here? Next=This

[KenCub]

trying to steal third is one of the stupidest things a team can have someone do. God I hate it.

 

If Freddy Garcia is pitching or Mike Piazza is catching, you almost have to try to steal third. In other situations it's a dicey move, but sometimes you give it a shot.

[CuseCubFan69]

trying to steal third is one of the stupidest things a team can have someone do. God I hate it.

 

If Freddy Garcia is pitching or Mike Piazza is catching, you almost have to try to steal third. In other situations it's a dicey move, but sometimes you give it a shot.

 

Also a lot of lefties have a horrible move to second.

[USSoccer]

trying to steal third is one of the stupidest things a team can have someone do. God I hate it.

 

If Freddy Garcia is pitching or Mike Piazza is catching, you almost have to try to steal third. In other situations it's a dicey move, but sometimes you give it a shot.

 

And how often is that going to happen for the Cubs with Piazza DH'ing in Oakland, and Garcia pitching for Philly?

[CuseCubFan69]

trying to steal third is one of the stupidest things a team can have someone do. God I hate it.

 

If Freddy Garcia is pitching or Mike Piazza is catching, you almost have to try to steal third. In other situations it's a dicey move, but sometimes you give it a shot.

 

And how often is that going to happen with Piazza DH'ing in Oakland, and Garcia pitching for Philly?

 

I'm thinking his point is having a poor pitching/catching combo in holding and throwing runners out.

[Knightlife_in_Lubbock]

How many times next season is a game going to come down to it being the ninth inning of a one run game with soriano on second and one out?

 

He's the only person that should be trying to steal third and that is just about the only situation that he should be trying it, and that situation is going to happen like 2 or 3 times during the course of the entire season.

 

Who cares about next season. If he can steal his and the Cubs way to the World Series this year.

 

Am I missing something here? Next=This

 

 

Huh? Wood has a contract for this season but not for next season.

Edited February 19, 2007 by Knightlife_in_Lubbock

[USSoccer]

trying to steal third is one of the stupidest things a team can have someone do. God I hate it.

 

If Freddy Garcia is pitching or Mike Piazza is catching, you almost have to try to steal third. In other situations it's a dicey move, but sometimes you give it a shot.

 

And how often is that going to happen with Piazza DH'ing in Oakland, and Garcia pitching for Philly?

 

I'm thinking his point is having a poor pitching/catching combo in holding and throwing runners out.

 

It's still a stupid risk. How often are you going to have a wild pitch or passed ball? You're in scoring position; why run yourself out of scoring position?

 

You're far more likely to kill a rally that create a run.

[imb]

How many times next season is a game going to come down to it being the ninth inning of a one run game with soriano on second and one out?

 

He's the only person that should be trying to steal third and that is just about the only situation that he should be trying it, and that situation is going to happen like 2 or 3 times during the course of the entire season.

 

Who cares about next season. If he can steal his and the Cubs way to the World Series this year.

 

Am I missing something here? Next=This

 

 

Huh? Wood has a contract for this season but not for next season.

 

Did you really think i was talking about 2008?

[CubColtPacer]

The other thing I forgot-having a player who has the ability to steal 3rd as part of a double steal can be quite an effective weapon as well if used correctly and sparingly. Stealing 3rd shouldn't be a routine thing, but if used correctly it can really help a team if the the team and/or baserunner knows when to call it and when not to.