Jae-Kuk Ryu traded to D-rays

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http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=4908

 

For RHP Greg Reinhard and outfielder Andy Lopez.

[CuseCubFan69]

Well now he gets a chance to get some MLB innings.

[Brian]

Good luck to JK.

[CoolHandLuke]

I don't like it.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Ok, time to find out about these guys we got. Ryu likely got caught in a numbers game here. He was behind too many others for the rotation and bullpen.

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I don't like it.

 

I'm at work, so I don't have access to my Sickels book, but I don't see either guy listed on his site anywhere.

 

I don't like it either.

[CuseCubFan69]

Maybe this is Hendry making a little manuever to make a big trade. Or, he's getting rid of JK for some toolsy dudes.

[moorecg]

yeah...after reading the rotoworld review both of those guys are big 'eh' prospects...I sure hope Marquis turns out alright this year...otherwise we've spent 21 million on production that we easily could have replaced from within very cheaply...whats even worse...if our young guys could have produced just a bit on the major league level, they'd be great trade pieces later in the year...

 

Was he on the 40 man?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/stats/player.php?id=489234

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/stats/player.php?id=489071

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Andrew (Andy) Lopez was drafted by the Rays in the 8th round of the 2005 draft. He's 20 years old and hasn't played above NY Penn league in Princeton.

 

He has a minor league line of 282 .374 .455 829.

In 2005, he hit 325 .403 .542 945, in 32 games but then in 2006 only hit 256 .356 .402 758 while repeating the same level. It's hard to know what kind of player he'll be. I like the OBP from him, but it's frighening that his numbers declined while repeating a level.

 

He's a right-handed hitter.

[CoolHandLuke]

I don't like it.

 

I'm at work, so I don't have access to my Sickels book, but I don't see either guy listed on his site anywhere.

 

I don't like it either.

 

Reinhard is a 2005 college draftee so he is the same age as Ryu. Didn't do terrible last year (4.50 era, 134k/54 bb in 142 ip, .75 go/fo but only 8 dingers) but was only pitching at low A so he needs to move quickly.

 

The other guy is also a 2005 draftee but just turned 20. Put up a real nice line of 325/403/502 in his first taste of pro ball in the rookie level appalachian league. The only problem is that he repeated the level this year and was far less productive. (256/356/402) Nice IsoD but otherwise pretty bad especially considering he was repeating the level.

 

I understand that we didn't really have too much we could do with Ryu but I don't see much value in either of these guys.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Reinhard's numbers look even less impressive.

[CubColtPacer]

I have to wonder if Lopez was hurt at all this year-his numbers went way down, and it seems strange to me (although I'm not near an expert on the minors) to have a guy repeat at the rookie league when he did so well at age 18 there.

[CuseCubFan69]

I have to wonder if Lopez was hurt at all this year-his numbers went way down, and it seems strange to me (although I'm not near an expert on the minors) to have a guy repeat at the rookie league when he did so well at age 18 there.

 

I was thinking the same thing. He probably had elbow surgery as Hendry is looking for that in everyday players too.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Without knowing the background behind these guys, it's pretty ridiculous to judge someone by their numbers at non-advanced levels.

 

If we're going by numbers, we might as well write Pawelek off right now.

 

Other things factor into prospects than numbers.

[WrigleyField 22]

This just doesn't make tons of sense unless a 1 for 2 trade is coming and we need the 40man spot, or if we are high on a NRI, but looking at that list its mostly guys who they dont need to add, have chosen not to, removed previously, or don't have much of a chance, so who knows on this one, but it seems like it must be a precurser to something else.

[CoolHandLuke]

Ironically, in Reinhard's scouting report provided by the mlb.com 2005 draft tracker, they compare him to Jason Marquis.

Mature build. Broad, sloped shoulders, thick chest. Similar to Jason Marquis. Fierce competitor, attacks bats. Boring FB inner 1/2, mostly plus velocity early. Hard, lateral bite slider. Controls pace of the game. Strike throwing machine. Approach, style similar to Tim Hudson.

 

they also have a scouting video there if you care to check it out. link

[CubColtPacer]

Ironically, in Reinhard's scouting report provided by the mlb.com 2005 draft tracker, they compare him to Jason Marquis.

Mature build. Broad, sloped shoulders, thick chest. Similar to Jason Marquis. Fierce competitor, attacks bats. Boring FB inner 1/2, mostly plus velocity early. Hard, lateral bite slider. Controls pace of the game. Strike throwing machine. Approach, style similar to Tim Hudson.

 

they also have a scouting video there if you care to check it out. link

 

I also saw a report that he has a Mulder type approach on the mound as well.

[CuseCubFan69]

Ironically, in Reinhard's scouting report provided by the mlb.com 2005 draft tracker, they compare him to Jason Marquis.

Mature build. Broad, sloped shoulders, thick chest. Similar to Jason Marquis. Fierce competitor, attacks bats. Boring FB inner 1/2, mostly plus velocity early. Hard, lateral bite slider. Controls pace of the game. Strike throwing machine. Approach, style similar to Tim Hudson.

 

they also have a scouting video there if you care to check it out. link

 

Strike throwing machine? That doesn't sound like something Hendry usually goes for.

[CubColtPacer]

Some stuff from his last year in college on Reinhard (since he's only one year from being drafted, I still think this is relevant):

 

Reinhard had a masterful season at Whitewater and will likely be playing professional ball come June. He led the WIAC in nearly every pitching category and led the Warhawks to the Division III World Series, which begins May 27. Reinhard finished the year a perfect 11-0 with a 1.43 ERA. He struck out 139 hitters in 94.2 innings pitched and was clocked in the mid-90's on the season. He tossed six complete games and three shutouts and limited opposing hitters to a miniscule .136 batting average.

 

Reinhard showed signs of his incredible success last summer in the NWL, tossing a no-hitter against the South Division second-half champion Madison Mallards. It was the second Woodchuck no-hitter of the season as the team became the first in Northwoods League history to accomplish that task twice in one season.

 

http://www.summercollegiatebaseball.com/news.htm

[sethuel1]

I also saw a report that he had an approach similar to [insert lefty starter here]

[CoolHandLuke]

Without knowing the background behind these guys, it's pretty ridiculous to judge someone by their numbers at non-advanced levels.

 

If we're going by numbers, we might as well write Pawelek off right now.

 

Other things factor into prospects than numbers.

 

What is bad about Pawelek's numbers?

 

Why can't we judge these guys based on every piece of knowledge we have? Things like draft position, age, age relative to league, repeating a league, these things combined with statistics are enough to make a preliminary opinion. Nobody is crucifying these guys, but it would be silly to keep a blank mind towards them just because we don't have every single bit of info on them.

[A New Era]

Good, let that animal killing, heartless bastard go elsewhere :x

 

(end over-reacting response). .

[CubColtPacer]

This is a report from before the season in 2006-at the time, Andrew Lopez was this site's pick for the DRays 22nd best prospect, and they did little writeups on each. It's kind of hard to quote with the way they have it set up, so you really should just go there and read this one:

 

http://www.raysbaseball.com/Top25Prospects06.shtml

[Transmogrified Tiger]

BA ranked Lopez #23 in the Tampa system in last year's prospect handbook. Relevant info from the write-up....

 

Drafted in the 8th round because of LBSU commitment, signed for 3rd round money

 

"Not only did he hit .325 in his pro debut, but he also raked against older pitchers during instructional league, where he reminded veteran scouts of Magglio Ordonez."

 

"Lopez has a line-drive stroke and quick wrists that should allow him to clear fences consistently in the future. He tends to get a bit upright in his stance at the plate, and while he has a good eye he can do a better job of making contact. While his baserunning ability is fringe average, he has good range and plus arm strength in right field."