Vidro to Mariners for prospects

[Drew Doughty]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/13/AR2006121301763.html

 

Seems like robbery since the Mariners are paying for most of the contract.

[JeffH]

Now, Eric Patterson to the Nationals for Ryan Church.

 

[Post Count Padder]

Interesting move. Looks like the Mariners give up on Snelling. Aside from the injuries, he has a lot of potential.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Now, Eric Patterson to the Nationals for Ryan Church.

 

 

Marmol instead.

[b_wiggy_66]

Now, Eric Patterson to the Nationals for Ryan Church.

 

 

Marmol instead.

 

The Nats want pitching Marshall or Marmol instead

[cjbucks]

What are the Mariners going to with Lopez? He had a slightly worse season than Vidro but is making about 20 times less than Vidro who appears to be on his last legs.

[Mephistopheles]

Chris Snelling would hve been a mighty fine 2007 Cubs rightfielder.

[Post Count Padder]

Rotoworld's take:

 

Jose Vidro-2B-Nationals Dec. 13 - 8:10 pm et

 

 

Jose Vidro told the Washington Post that he has been dealt to the Mariners, reportedly for Chris Snelling and Emiliano Fruto.

 

Can't someone fire Bill Bavasi before he does anymore damage? The Mariners are taking on $12 million of the $16 million Vidro is owed over the next two years, which would be reasonable if Vidro still happened to be a quality defensive second baseman. As is, the Mariners figure to DH him and keep Jose Lopez at second base. Vidro's OPS has dropped four straight seasons, falling to 763 in 2005 and 744 last season. Also, he hasn't remained healthy enough to get 500 at-bats since 2003. Snelling certainly had a realistic chance of being a better DH, and Fruto has a fair amount of upside as either a starter or a reliever. Amazingly enough, this is another winner for Nats GM Jim Bowden.

[questionmarkgrace]

I'm not so sure Snelling will ever live up to the minor league numbers he put up because they always came in such a small sample size. Last year was the first year he played over one hundred games in five years. He was oft injured and mismanaged and aside from his obp he was terrible this year spliting time between AAA Tacoma and Seattle. A change of senery and leagues will help.

[ltb]

and they gave him a vesting option for 2009

this just keeps looking worse for the mariners

seriously, how long can bavasi keep his job?

[Post Count Padder]

and they gave him a vesting option for 2009

this just keeps looking worse for the mariners

seriously, how long can bavasi keep his job?

I'm seriously starting to think he's trying to see how far he can go until he actually does get fired.

[bannor10]

money aside....ok besides alot of money

 

The Mariners get a Major league player for prospects before they loose there total value....

 

The Cubs should make more of these types of deals, they usually don't because our farm system is devoid of position players and our pitchers usually get hurt...

 

What is the problem with our farm system anyway....Do we draft poorly or do we just not develop the players

 

The answer probably both

[BigbadB]

Weird. I think I would have thrown money at Aubrey Huff before taking on Vidro's constant ailments.

[bannor10]

for a lot less than 12 mil too....or sign giles for 5 mil

 

Weird. I think I would have thrown money at Aubrey Huff before taking on Vidro's constant ailments.

[BigbadB]

I'm not so sure Huff will be less expensive than Vidro. His market is growing more and more as less and less players are available. And he's actually a pretty good player.

 

I almost mentioned Giles, but Seattle isn't going to use Vidro at 2nd. They have a good 2b already. Arguably better than Giles at this point.

[TheDude]

Now, Eric Patterson to the Nationals for Ryan Church.

 

 

Marmol instead.

 

The Nats want pitching Marshall or Marmol instead

 

I don't remeber which source said/wrote it, but the Cubs had already said no to Marmol for Church I recall (wasn't straight-up deal). The Cubs would rather part with Marshall, but the Nationals wanted Marmol and more. That was the gist of it.

[Iceblink]

What a ridiculous excuse for a trade. You could lobotomize Bavasi and he could do no worse.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Now, Eric Patterson to the Nationals for Ryan Church.

 

 

Marmol instead.

 

The Nats want pitching Marshall or Marmol instead

 

I don't remeber which source said/wrote it, but the Cubs had already said no to Marmol for Church I recall (wasn't straight-up deal). The Cubs would rather part with Marshall, but the Nationals wanted Marmol and more. That was the gist of it.

 

I'd like for you to find that, but I don't recall anything more that just speculation of what it would take on the Cubs' part to get Church, if they were even seriously interested.

[NorthsideAvenger]

About five yrs ago, people would have been screaming the Nats/Expos did not get enough for Vidro, who was then MLB's best hitting 2nd baseman. Man, how times have changed.

[Rob]

I think this deal flip-flops Bowden and Bavasi at the near the bottom of the GM list.

 

Coletti is still king, though.

[CubColtPacer]

I think this deal flip-flops Bowden and Bavasi at the near the bottom of the GM list.

 

Coletti is still king, though.

 

Krivsky has to be rapidly getting there as well.

[Rob]

I think this deal flip-flops Bowden and Bavasi at the near the bottom of the GM list.

 

Coletti is still king, though.

 

Krivsky has to be rapidly getting there as well.

 

He certainly is.

 

The way I see it, it goes...

 

1. Coletti

2. Krvisky

3. Bavasi

 

4. Bowden

 

Bowden has absolutely mangled Krvisky and Bavasi lately, so there does need to be a gap between them.

[NorthsideAvenger]

I think this deal flip-flops Bowden and Bavasi at the near the bottom of the GM list.

 

Coletti is still king, though.

 

Krivsky has to be rapidly getting there as well.

 

He certainly is.

 

The way I see it, it goes...

 

1. Coletti

2. Krvisky

3. Bavasi

 

4. Bowden

 

Bowden has absolutely mangled Krvisky and Bavasi lately, so there does need to be a gap between them.

 

What about Brian Sabean and his fetish for extremely OLD players?