What if Hendry has to quit as GM for the Cubs?

[Guest]

I am still trying to figiure out how goony has enough insider info to know that the Cubs are the least efficiently run org. in MLB. Can you help me out on that one, goony? Do you want to at least qualify it?

I think his formula is very simple: wins / salary. A basic return on investment calculation.

[Coach C]

I am still trying to figiure out how goony has enough insider info to know that the Cubs are the least efficiently run org. in MLB. Can you help me out on that one, goony? Do you want to at least qualify it?

 

Well, the way the years past has played out, where the Cubs has traditionally played horribly, other than 2003. I don't think it's too hard to figure it out, especially signing players that are not quality players, and also non-productive players.

 

I do feel that the Cubs are the least efficent run organization, based on the moves that deemed uncessary, and that the Cubs don't make the right proper necessary moves to make the team better.

[BigSlick]

Kenny Williams, not a moneyball guy.

 

Walt Jocketty, not a moneyball guy.

 

Moneyball is overrated. Stat-head GM'ing, overrated.

 

Not saying I want Gary Hughes as my GM, but the whole Moneyball flap should be viewed as an important contribution to the evolution of effective baseball management, NOT as the end-all be-all of how to produce a winner.

 

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You don't have to be a moneyball "guy" for me to want you to be on my radar for Gm...BUT YOU BROUGHT UP SOME BAD EVIDENCE HERE.

 

Kenny Williams is a terrible Gm, come on now, even morons can see that.

[Rob]

Gary Hughes?

 

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

 

Why is that?

 

Gary Hughes has value in being a scout. I'm surely not about to debate that. But after the comments of his that I have read, I don't want him in charge of making the decisions.

 

Perhaps my comment was a bit over the top, as I did not mean to disparage him personally, but the things he's said would make me very scared to see what kind of a team he'd put on the field.

[Rob]

I am still trying to figiure out how goony has enough insider info to know that the Cubs are the least efficiently run org. in MLB. Can you help me out on that one, goony? Do you want to at least qualify it?

I think his formula is very simple: wins / salary. A basic return on investment calculation.

 

You can't leave out the fact that there's replacement level to worry about. We should be talking about Marginal Payroll / Marginal Wins

 

(club payroll - (28 x major league minimum) / ((winning percentage - .300) x 162)

 

AL East          Club        Marginal Wins   Cost per Marginal Win
Least Efficient   Yankees     48.4            $3,832,791
Most Efficient    Blue Jays   38.4            $1,634,349

AL Central       Club        Marginal Wins   Cost per Marginal Win
Least Efficient   Royals      13.4            $2,846,119
Most Efficient    Twins       47.4            $1,144,304

AL West          Club        Marginal Wins   Cost per Marginal Win
Least Efficient   Mariners    29.4            $2,680,402
Most Efficient    A's         44.4            $1,195,655

NL East          Club        Marginal Wins   Cost per Marginal Win
Least Efficient   Braves      30.4            $2,664,503
Most Efficient    Marlins     29.4            $198,724

NL Central       Club        Marginal Wins   Cost per Marginal Win
Least Efficient   Cubs        17.4            $4,900,488
Most Efficient    Reds        31.4            $1,648,201

NL West          Club        Marginal Wins   Cost per Marginal Win
Least Efficient   Giants      27.7            $2,920,593
Most Efficient    Padres      39.4            $1,541,628

 

Figures taken from Baseball Prospectus

 

The Cubs are obviously the worst of the bunch.

[CubsWin]

I am still trying to figiure out how goony has enough insider info to know that the Cubs are the least efficiently run org. in MLB. Can you help me out on that one, goony? Do you want to at least qualify it?

I think his formula is very simple: wins / salary. A basic return on investment calculation.

Is that very simple or too simple?

 

I'm not saying the Cubs have done a great job of spending their money lately, but without taking into account the number of huge injuries to key players over the last couple of seasons, having this very simple formula leads to a very unbalanced point of view.

[UK1679666180]

Gary Hughes?

 

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

 

Why is that?

 

Gary Hughes has value in being a scout. I'm surely not about to debate that. But after the comments of his that I have read, I don't want him in charge of making the decisions.

 

Perhaps my comment was a bit over the top, as I did not mean to disparage him personally, but the things he's said would make me very scared to see what kind of a team he'd put on the field.

 

I would think that most current GMs don't know much if anything about the more complex SABR stats, but they have someone close to them who does. I think most current GMs would not have answered in a similar manner, but would not know much about the subject of the question.

[RynoRules]

I am still trying to figiure out how goony has enough insider info to know that the Cubs are the least efficiently run org. in MLB. Can you help me out on that one, goony? Do you want to at least qualify it?

I think his formula is very simple: wins / salary. A basic return on investment calculation.

 

Sure, if you completely disregard the remainder of the balance sheet. If he's refering only to performance on the field, he's probably right. I was refering the entire org. I'd bet they have coffers of cash from all the yearsof high attendance, merchandising, etc. combined with low(er) payroll. None of us knows for sure, but its a reasonable assumption.