My Far-fetched Offseason Wish List

[Hosak8]

Most are plausible moves, though not sure that any are likely...

 

1. Detroit is looking for a lefty reliever. Send 'em Glendon for nothing. OR, if rumors are true about Bonderman being on the block, send 'em Eyre, Marmol, and Glendon for Bonderman.

 

2. The Mets are looking for an everyday 2B, and have eyes on Rich Aurilia. Send 'em Izturis. Single A refuse is fine in return.

 

3. The Padres are looking for more power than Dave Roberts offered. Goodbye Jaques Jones. I'll take back your AA mascot.

 

4. The Phillies are looking for a catcher and bullpen help. They are desperate enough to be talking about Borowski. Plus, if they land Soriano, Burrell is good as gone. So, Barrett and Dempster for Burrell.

 

Now, I'm looking to sign Drew (3/39 or 4/48), Lugo (3/23), and Bengie Molina. I'd even consider bringing Walker back at the right price, and I'd give Erstad a long look for my bench. Everyday lineup could look like this:

 

SS- Lugo (S)

LF- Murton ®

1B- Lee ®

CF- Drew (L)

3B- ARam ®

RF- Burrell ®

2B- Walker (L)

C- Molina ®

 

Put Erstad in LF or at 1B on days we need another LH bat in the lineup, or one of those guys needs a rest, and put Theriot/Cedeno at 2B on days we need another RH bat in the lineup. That would be a significant offensive upgrade, and would still allow us to spend 15-18 M on the pitching staff.

 

Fire away...

[ChiCubsFan]

Most are plausible moves, though not sure that any are likely...

 

1. Detroit is looking for a lefty reliever. Send 'em Glendon for nothing. OR, if rumors are true about Bonderman being on the block, send 'em Eyre, Marmol, and Glendon for Bonderman.

 

2. The Mets are looking for an everyday 2B, and have eyes on Rich Aurilia. Send 'em Izturis. Single A refuse is fine in return.

 

3. The Padres are looking for more power than Dave Roberts offered. Goodbye Jaques Jones. I'll take back your AA mascot.

 

4. The Phillies are looking for a catcher and bullpen help. They are desperate enough to be talking about Borowski. Plus, if they land Soriano, Burrell is good as gone. So, Barrett and Dempster for Burrell.

 

Now, I'm looking to sign Drew (3/39 or 4/48), Lugo (3/23), and Bengie Molina. I'd even consider bringing Walker back at the right price, and I'd give Erstad a long look for my bench. Everyday lineup could look like this:

 

SS- Lugo (S)

LF- Murton ®

1B- Lee ®

CF- Drew (L)

3B- ARam ®

RF- Burrell ®

2B- Walker (L)

C- Molina ®

 

Put Erstad in LF or at 1B on days we need another LH bat in the lineup, or one of those guys needs a rest, and put Theriot/Cedeno at 2B on days we need another RH bat in the lineup. That would be a significant offensive upgrade, and would still allow us to spend 15-18 M on the pitching staff.

 

Fire away...

 

Nobody is taking back Glendon unless we eat the whole contract. I believe Izturis and JJ can be moved. I believe you could get Burrell (especially if they land Soriano) without giving up Barrett.

[Hosak8]

I'm sure you can get Burrell without including Barrett, but I'd take the defensive upgrade of Molina over Barrett, and the money saved to make that move. Plus, you could possibly get the Phils to throw in Rowand in that scenario (Victorino is their guy in CF) and I'd do taht in a heartbeat.

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm sure you can get Burrell without including Barrett, but I'd take the defensive upgrade of Molina over Barrett, and the money saved to make that move. Plus, you could possibly get the Phils to throw in Rowand in that scenario (Victorino is their guy in CF) and I'd do taht in a heartbeat.

 

I'm not sure the little money you save of Barret and Molina is worth it. Barret off the top of my head is set to make like 5.5M. If you are planning on ridding yourself of Dempster's, Isturiz's, and Jones' contract also, money should not really be an issue, though I haven't added it all up exactly, but you would probably be fine.

[SouthSideRyan]

Bengie Molina ate himself out of being a good defensive catcher.

 

And that package for Bonderman is absurd.

[nilodnayr]

I don't believe Molina is much of an ugrade defensively over Barrett, but I like the idea of selling high, especially on a catcher leaving his prime.

 

Updated from the heart attack thread...

 

Sign JD Drew to a 4/50 deal

Sign Z to an Oswalt extension (adds 7M to 07 payroll)

Trade Barrett, Prior, Eyre, Moore for AROD

Sign Molina to a 1/4

Trade Jacque Jones, Cesar Izturis, and AAAA arm (if necessary) to Washington for Kearns, Church, and Vidro

Sign Vicente Padilla to a 3/27

Trade EPatt? (or whoever) for Aaron Heilman

Sign Tony Graffanino

Sign Daryle Ward/Richard Hidalgo, Edwardo Perez, Jose Cruz Jr.

 

That puts us at about 117 or so. We could also go cheaper at second or use Theriot.

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm sure you can get Burrell without including Barrett, but I'd take the defensive upgrade of Molina over Barrett, and the money saved to make that move. Plus, you could possibly get the Phils to throw in Rowand in that scenario (Victorino is their guy in CF) and I'd do taht in a heartbeat.

 

I'm not sure the little money you save of Barret and Molina is worth it. Barret off the top of my head is set to make like 5.5M. If you are planning on ridding yourself of Dempster's, Isturiz's, and Jones' contract also, money should not really be an issue, though I haven't added it all up exactly, but you would probably be fine.

 

Adding on to what I just said:

Barret is set to make 4.4M. Bengie Molina signed for 5M last offseason and was pretty much right in line with his career line this year. He won't get any less than 5M. So he'll probably actually be more than Barret. Let the Philles sign Molina if they need a catcher so bad, because they wont demand one from us.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Motion to strike the word "plausible" from the original post.

 

Glendon will not be traded. His career is probably over. If Barrett is dealt, we had better be upgrading more than just Burrell. Barrett and Jacque is far more appealing in the lineup than Burrell and Blanco. Lugo at ~8 is absurd. He's a 31 year old average ballplayer. Erstad is horrible. It's actually been a few years since he's been as good as mediocre.

[BigbadB]

Scott Eyre, Carlos Marmol and Glendon Rusch for Bonderman?

 

Holy Cow!

 

Are you sure you meant Bonderman? The Tigers would probably take that deal if you threw in one more player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Derrek Lee

[RynoRules]

Scott Eyre, Carlos Marmol and Glendon Rusch for Bonderman?

 

Holy Cow!

 

Are you sure you meant Bonderman? The Tigers would probably take that deal if you threw in one more player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Derrek Lee

 

This without even mentioning that Glendon may never pitch again.

 

Want Bonderman?: Prior and Marmol/Marshall might be a start.

[Rob]

Most are plausible moves, though not sure that any are likely...

 

1. Detroit is looking for a lefty reliever. Send 'em Glendon for nothing. OR, if rumors are true about Bonderman being on the block, send 'em Eyre, Marmol, and Glendon for Bonderman.

 

That never happens.

 

 

2. The Mets are looking for an everyday 2B, and have eyes on Rich Aurilia. Send 'em Izturis. Single A refuse is fine in return.

 

They just re-signed Valentine, who had a darn good year.

 

 

3. The Padres are looking for more power than Dave Roberts offered. Goodbye Jaques Jones. I'll take back your AA mascot.

 

Feasible... but Jacque actually does have some trade value after an above average year, with only 2/10 left on the contract. Might as well try to get something for him.

 

 

4. The Phillies are looking for a catcher and bullpen help. They are desperate enough to be talking about Borowski. Plus, if they land Soriano, Burrell is good as gone. So, Barrett and Dempster for Burrell.

 

Absolutely not. Barrett is worth a lot more than Burrell right now. Besides, Burrell doesn't fill a hole we cant do just as well filling by signing a free agent.

 

 

Now, I'm looking to sign Drew (3/39 or 4/48), Lugo (3/23), and Bengie Molina. I'd even consider bringing Walker back at the right price, and I'd give Erstad a long look for my bench. Everyday lineup could look like this:

 

Drew is a great signing but there's no way he signs for that little (years or money). Lugo would certainly be an upgrade, and I could handle that contract... but I'd rather look at a huge upgrade than a moderate one. ARod and Tejada both are available. Lugo should only be a fallback option. And Bengie Molina I wouldn't ever consider. He has no bat and he's hardly much of a defender anymore. If you absolutely must trade Barrett, Piazza is a better bet for next season than anyone else out there. Erstad shouldn't even be given a major league deal this year... he hasn't been anywhere near decent even since 2000... especially for a LF or 1B. There's no way on earth the Cubs brass bring back Walker.... but there are better options out there anyway like Durham and Loretta.

 

SS- Lugo (S)

LF- Murton ®

1B- Lee ®

CF- Drew (L)

3B- ARam ®

RF- Burrell ®

2B- Walker (L)

C- Molina ®

 

Everyday lineup contstruction looks fine though, if that's your options...

 

Put Erstad in LF or at 1B on days we need another LH bat in the lineup, or one of those guys needs a rest, and put Theriot/Cedeno at 2B on days we need another RH bat in the lineup. That would be a significant offensive upgrade, and would still allow us to spend 15-18 M on the pitching staff.

 

Fire away...

 

Unfortunately, it wouldn't be much of an offensive upgrade. The gain from Jones to Burrell is completely lost by the dropoff from Barrett to Molina... and that drop also covers part of the gain from Izturis/Cedeno to Lugo. We'd still probably score more runs... but that'd be merely a factor of DLee's health, Drew over Pierre and Lugo outperforming the crap we got from SS last year.

 

No offense of course, but I'm not at all a fan of this idea.

[SouthSideRyan]

The loss from Jones's defense to Burrell's defense would be pretty spectacular as well.(Yes, I know Jones spiked every throw into the ground, but he had good range out there, while Burrell was far more Dunn-esque.)

[Transmogrified Tiger]

The loss from Jones's defense to Burrell's defense would be pretty spectacular as well.(Yes, I know Jones spiked every throw into the ground, but he had good range out there, while Burrell was far more Dunn-esque.)

 

According to The Fielding Bible, Burrell was the 4th best LF from '03-'05, with a +/- of +12. Jacque Jones was the 4th worst RF in that time frame, with a +/- of -16.