Sheffield to Tigers

[nilodnayr]

Detroit got 754 OPS out of first base last year (26th in the league) and 768 OPS out of DH last year (9th in the AL). Sheff will likely bring about 150 additional OPS to whichever postition they use him at. Thats quite an upgrade. Maybe Dombrowski is going to be this years K-dub.

 

i don't think he's going to provide that big of a boost, personally.

 

While that is a convinving argument, I look at the fact that he had a 906 OPS in April last year (before he got hurt), 891 OPS the year before, and 927 OPS the year before that.

[UMFan83]

Detroit got 754 OPS out of first base last year (26th in the league) and 768 OPS out of DH last year (9th in the AL). Sheff will likely bring about 150 additional OPS to whichever postition they use him at. Thats quite an upgrade. Maybe Dombrowski is going to be this years K-dub.

 

i don't think he's going to provide that big of a boost, personally.

 

While that is a convinving argument, I look at the fact that he had a 906 OPS in April last year (before he got hurt), 891 OPS the year before, and 927 OPS the year before that.

 

Yes but HGH-aided Bonds aside, players generally tend to decline after their early to mid-30's.

[wade]

tigers official site

 

The site confirms the two year extension, though no money is mentioned. It also says Sanchez was shut down in the summer.

[TruffleShuffle]

Detroit got 754 OPS out of first base last year (26th in the league) and 768 OPS out of DH last year (9th in the AL). Sheff will likely bring about 150 additional OPS to whichever postition they use him at. Thats quite an upgrade. Maybe Dombrowski is going to be this years K-dub.

 

i don't think he's going to provide that big of a boost, personally.

 

While that is a convinving argument, I look at the fact that he had a 906 OPS in April last year (before he got hurt), 891 OPS the year before, and 927 OPS the year before that.

 

Yes but HGH-aided Bonds aside, players generally tend to decline after their early to mid-30's.

 

Sammy Sosa went from very good to out of baseball in a very short time frame. It's certainly a defensible position to say he won't do much in Detroit, and it's also defensible to believe he'll make a pretty big impact. When you're talking about players skills declining, it's kind of a crap shoot.

[wade]

Detroit got 754 OPS out of first base last year (26th in the league) and 768 OPS out of DH last year (9th in the AL). Sheff will likely bring about 150 additional OPS to whichever postition they use him at. Thats quite an upgrade. Maybe Dombrowski is going to be this years K-dub.

 

i don't think he's going to provide that big of a boost, personally.

 

While that is a convinving argument, I look at the fact that he had a 906 OPS in April last year (before he got hurt), 891 OPS the year before, and 927 OPS the year before that.

 

Yes but HGH-aided Bonds aside, players generally tend to decline after their early to mid-30's.

 

I think it's possible Sheffield supplements, thus the non-decline so far in his 30's.

[erik316wttn]

Power hitters seem to die in Detroit. It's a pitchers paradise.

 

The Tigers should be acquiring speedy guys with power in the gaps. Babe Ruth himself would have trouble hitting a lot of homers in that park.

[wade]

He's gonna be 39, hes a past steroid user and he's had injury problems. Good luck Detroit

 

He won't be 39 til Nov. 18, 2007. :party1:

[Outshined_One]

Am I the only one who's noticed that the Yankees seem to be stocking up on right handed pitching in their farm system?

[goonys evil twin]

He's gonna be 39, hes a past steroid user and he's had injury problems. Good luck Detroit

 

He won't be 39 til Nov. 18, 2007. :party1:

 

But he's gonna be 39, regardless.

[Drew Doughty]

Detroit got 754 OPS out of first base last year (26th in the league) and 768 OPS out of DH last year (9th in the AL). Sheff will likely bring about 150 additional OPS to whichever postition they use him at. Thats quite an upgrade. Maybe Dombrowski is going to be this years K-dub.

 

i don't think he's going to provide that big of a boost, personally.

 

While that is a convinving argument, I look at the fact that he had a 906 OPS in April last year (before he got hurt), 891 OPS the year before, and 927 OPS the year before that.

 

Yes but HGH-aided Bonds aside, players generally tend to decline after their early to mid-30's.

 

I think it's possible Sheffield supplements, thus the non-decline so far in his 30's.

 

But he has declined the last few years. It went sort of unnoticed because he was still a productive player. Still. He's 38 next year, he's coming off of wrist surgery -- which I can't imagine is going to be great for his swing -- and he's going to a pitcher's park. I don't think he's going to be that productive.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think it is a good deal for both teams. The Yankees got a nice haul for a hitter they didn't want nor need. Sanchez helps give the Yankees some depth in the pitching department.

 

On the other hand, Detroit needed to add a bat. Whether Sheffield is a good buy or not will remain to be seen. He's a gamble, but if he regains form, he could be a huge boost to that team.

 

Furthermore, Detroit has the depth to trade pitching.

[USSoccer]

Am I the only one who's noticed that the Yankees seem to be stocking up on right handed pitching in their farm system?

 

Perhaps loading up to make a play for Cabrera or Willis?

[BigbadB]

Power hitters seem to die in Detroit. It's a pitchers paradise.

 

The Tigers should be acquiring speedy guys with power in the gaps. Babe Ruth himself would have trouble hitting a lot of homers in that park.

 

Yet, the Detroit Tigers were 3rd in HR's in the AL (6th overall) in 2006.

[Outshined_One]

Am I the only one who's noticed that the Yankees seem to be stocking up on right handed pitching in their farm system?

 

Perhaps loading up to make a play for Cabrera or Willis?

 

That wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[nilodnayr]

Detroit got 754 OPS out of first base last year (26th in the league) and 768 OPS out of DH last year (9th in the AL). Sheff will likely bring about 150 additional OPS to whichever postition they use him at. Thats quite an upgrade. Maybe Dombrowski is going to be this years K-dub.

 

i don't think he's going to provide that big of a boost, personally.

 

While that is a convinving argument, I look at the fact that he had a 906 OPS in April last year (before he got hurt), 891 OPS the year before, and 927 OPS the year before that.

 

Yes but HGH-aided Bonds aside, players generally tend to decline after their early to mid-30's.

 

But hes already past that point and really hasnt declined.

[nilodnayr]

Power hitters seem to die in Detroit. It's a pitchers paradise.

 

The Tigers should be acquiring speedy guys with power in the gaps. Babe Ruth himself would have trouble hitting a lot of homers in that park.

 

Yet, the Detroit Tigers were 3rd in HR's in the AL (6th overall) in 2006.

 

And they ranked 20th in HR's at home and 1st on the road. They hit 50% more homers on the road than at home. Thats a rudimentry analysis, but it shows that their HRs were severly depressed at home (Thank God Zoloft just came off patent).

[baseball7897]

Bonds and Alou are still out there. :wink: :lol:

[Sammy Sofa]

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but possibly the Cubs looks to offer something like Zambrano (and a second, relatively minor player) for ARod and Sanchez?

[baseball7897]

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but possibly the Cubs looks to offer something like Zambrano (and a second, relatively minor player) for ARod and Sanchez?

 

Then you would be creating another hole on the team.

[Garwilly]

He's gonna be 39, hes a past steroid user and he's had injury problems. Good luck Detroit

 

He won't be 39 til Nov. 18, 2007. :party1:

 

But he's gonna be 39, regardless.

 

He's also gonna be 41, 45, and 67. He will be 38 next season.

[goonys evil twin]

He's gonna be 39, hes a past steroid user and he's had injury problems. Good luck Detroit

 

He won't be 39 til Nov. 18, 2007. :party1:

 

But he's gonna be 39, regardless.

 

He's also gonna be 41, 45, and 67. He will be 38 next season.

 

I was trying to make a joke.

[Sammy Sofa]

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but possibly the Cubs looks to offer something like Zambrano (and a second, relatively minor player) for ARod and Sanchez?

 

Then you would be creating another hole on the team.

 

Not if they're determined to pick up at least 2 other starting pitchers. It all hinges on what else Hendry can get done. And Sanchez seems pretty good.

[baseball7897]

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but possibly the Cubs looks to offer something like Zambrano (and a second, relatively minor player) for ARod and Sanchez?

 

Then you would be creating another hole on the team.

 

Not if they're determined to pick up at least 2 other starting pitchers. It all hinges on what else Hendry can get done. And Sanchez seems pretty good.

 

That deal doesnt make sense. You dont trade a staff ace. Their determined to pick up at least 2 other starting pitchers? Who are these guys that are better than Zambrano?

[goonys evil twin]

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but possibly the Cubs looks to offer something like Zambrano (and a second, relatively minor player) for ARod and Sanchez?

 

Then you would be creating another hole on the team.

 

Not if they're determined to pick up at least 2 other starting pitchers. It all hinges on what else Hendry can get done. And Sanchez seems pretty good.

 

That deal doesnt make sense. You dont trade a staff ace. Their determined to pick up at least 2 other starting pitchers? Who are these guys that are better than Zambrano?

 

Who said better than Zambrano? STL won after letting their past ace, Morris, leave. The Yankees went on an ace acquiring binge in the 2000s and didn't win the WS. Florida got rid of their best pitchers and are poised to be better than the Cubs for a while. Oakland has won despite ace type pitchers leaving.

 

It's never good to get rid of a great pitcher. But it's all about the net gain. If you can turn that 1 great pitcher into 1 great position player and 2 good pitchers, you are probably better off.

[Sammy Sofa]

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but possibly the Cubs looks to offer something like Zambrano (and a second, relatively minor player) for ARod and Sanchez?

 

Then you would be creating another hole on the team.

 

Not if they're determined to pick up at least 2 other starting pitchers. It all hinges on what else Hendry can get done. And Sanchez seems pretty good.

 

That deal doesnt make sense. You dont trade a staff ace. Their determined to pick up at least 2 other starting pitchers? Who are these guys that are better than Zambrano?

 

Why do they need to be better or even as good as Zambrano? Shell out for Zito or Schmidt or the other Japanese pitcher posting, another pitcher along the lines of Padilla (with less insane self-represented demands)...ideally 3 new hurlers but 2 if all that can be had. Combine those signings with Miller, Prior, Hill and Sanchez and just kind of hope for the best. Yeah, it's not ideal and there's definitely risks involved, but it does net you ARod and Sanchez doesn't seem to be a slouch, far from it.

 

Like I said, I don't know if it's anything even close to being a smart deal. I can just see a potential upside to it. There's been talk of Zambrano having the potential for real health problems down the line, so selling high wouldn't have to be the end of the world and could actually be smart if done right.