Hendry's a bozo

[NorthsideAvenger]

If Dusty Baker is removed, what are the chances of a new player philosophy as Bob Brenly alluded to in Melissa Isaacson's story? How about realizing the value of OBP? --Peter Bianco, Shanghai, China

 

Brenly believes the way to win is by nurturing the farm system and avoiding costly free agents, and in principle, it sounds like a good plan. But the Cubs aren't in position to follow that philosophy since Jim Hendry has two years to win or else, and there are no impact players in the system ready to come up in 2007. Hendry is not sold on OBP as the most important offensive stat, so I wouldn't expect that to change drastically either

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(I didn't see this anywhere, and if it was, then I apologize)

 

This was in Sullivan's latest "Q-n-A". Notice the bold part? No wonder Baker and Hendry are a match made in heaven. So, I expect the Cubs won't be addressing the "lack of OBP" anytime soon.

[Banedon]

I don't need Hendry to believe that OBP is the most important offensive stat. I just want him to understand that it's a valuable stat, that should be included in the overall analysis of a player.

[SouthSideRyan]

Sad, but this is almost encouraging, that Hendry could possibly view it as having a chance of being really important. By saying he's not sold on it being the most important offensive stat, it implies that he knows it is important, even very important if it's in the running for most important offensive stat.

 

The only worry is that the other things he has in the running are runs scored, sacrifice flies, and triples.

[NorthsideAvenger]

I don't need Hendry to believe that OBP is the most important offensive stat. I just want him to understand that it's a valuable stat, that should be included in the overall analysis of a player.

 

And right now, I believe Hendry doesn't think OBP is even a viable stat, much less an important one.

[UMFan83]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

[CuseCubFan69]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

The 5 degrees of separation of Jim Hendry. That's on WGN, right?

[David]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Honestly, Soriano, Schmidt, Jones, and another starter might just do it.

 

Then again, if Lee and/or Ramirez aren't back...oh, for Christ's sake...

[RichHillIsABeast]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hahahaha, here's to another sub .500 season!! ](*,)

[TruffleShuffle]

Hendry is a bozo? In other news, dwarves are small!

[flynnhicks03]

Hendry is a bozo? In other news, dwarves are small!

 

In the latest edition of "Duh!" magazine:

"Germans Love David Hasselhoff!"

[TheDude]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hendry was right. It will only take about 5 moves to bring the team back to contention.

[RichHillIsABeast]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hendry was right. It will only take about 5 moves to bring the team back to contention.

 

Does DFAing Rusch, Jones, and Dempster only count as one move? :?

[A New Era]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hendry was right. It will only take about 5 moves to bring the team back to contention.

 

Does DFAing Rusch, Jones, and Dempster only count as one move? :?

 

Sure let's designate them and loose $14 mil. Are you sure you don't want to try to trade them first?

[Backtobanks]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hendry was right. It will only take about 5 moves to bring the team back to contention.

 

1. sign Schmidt

2. Sign Craig Wilson

3. Sign Ray Durham

4. Pull off a trade for an impact bat (i.e. Tejada or Andruw Jones for a package of Cedeno plus young pitching plus ????)

5. re-sign Wood & Aram (I'm counting this as one move)

[RichHillIsABeast]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hendry was right. It will only take about 5 moves to bring the team back to contention.

 

Does DFAing Rusch, Jones, and Dempster only count as one move? :?

 

Sure let's designate them and loose $14 mil. Are you sure you don't want to try to trade them first?

 

Why? I'd rather put Hendry under the gun w/ 10 days to do something (i.e. trade). DFAing somebody doesn't mean you aren't trading them. I'll take a bullproof cup in exchange for the 3 of them. At least we'd get something of use. If we had to throw in a couple million (like with Nevin) to get a decent prospect in return, that's fine too, but just getting rid of them (and their salaries) is the main thing.

 

We'd just be freeing up space on the 40 man while buying us time to do something with those 3.

[A New Era]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hendry was right. It will only take about 5 moves to bring the team back to contention.

 

Does DFAing Rusch, Jones, and Dempster only count as one move? :?

 

Sure let's designate them and loose $14 mil. Are you sure you don't want to try to trade them first?

 

Why? I'd rather put Hendry under the gun w/ 10 days to do something (i.e. trade). DFAing somebody doesn't mean you aren't trading them. I'll take a bullproof cup in exchange for the 3 of them. At least we'd get something of use. If we had to throw in a couple million (like with Nevin) to get a decent prospect in return, that's fine too, but just getting rid of them (and their salaries) is the main thing.

 

We'd just be freeing up space on the 40 man while buying us time to do something with those 3.

 

I must admit I don't know the rules of DFA. But I agree I'd try to get rid of those guys. Don't forget the likes of Blanco, Maybry, and Bynum. Who you could replace with very cheap and very good rookies like Scott Moore, Cedeno, Theroit, and Soto. .

 

Out of your 3 guys though, I wouldn't be in such a hurry to unload Jones. It creates another hole. We need to get CF, 2B, and a SP. Jones puts up decent #'s and can be a productive peice in a contending team.

[CubColtPacer]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hendry was right. It will only take about 5 moves to bring the team back to contention.

 

Does DFAing Rusch, Jones, and Dempster only count as one move? :?

 

Sure let's designate them and loose $14 mil. Are you sure you don't want to try to trade them first?

 

Why? I'd rather put Hendry under the gun w/ 10 days to do something (i.e. trade). DFAing somebody doesn't mean you aren't trading them. I'll take a bullproof cup in exchange for the 3 of them. At least we'd get something of use. If we had to throw in a couple million (like with Nevin) to get a decent prospect in return, that's fine too, but just getting rid of them (and their salaries) is the main thing.

 

We'd just be freeing up space on the 40 man while buying us time to do something with those 3.

 

If we need to DFA Jones-does that mean Detroit needs to DFA Ordonez (823 OPS, 16 Mill), Milwaukee's Jenkins (781 OPS, 7.8 Mil), St. Louis's Encarnacion (776 OPS, 3.5 Mil), Seattle's Ichiro Suzuki (768 OPS, 12.5 Mil), Oakland's Jay Payton (752 OPS, 4 Mil), and San Fransisco's Randy Winn (708 OPS, 5 Mil)? Those are only the qualified RF's who are making around the same or more money than Jones and doing worse than him this season in OPS, and some of them are doing significantly worse. (BTW-in addition to all those excluded already because of their low contracts and the RF's not qualified, I also excluded Giles-we could argue all day if his OBP was more important than Jacque's slugging (Jacque has a 51 point jump in OPS) so I left Giles off the list). There are 12 other RF's not listed-I'm sure if we looked at each of their right fielders, we could find at least several more who Jacque is outproducing this year.

 

My point is, if you want to trade him then fine. DFA'ing him means though you're not going to get a deal that will give you the proper value for Jones-he has value in the league. Same for Dempster to a lesser extent.

Rusch? wouldn't bother me in the least if that happened-at this point, I'd rather do it after spring training (to see if either he retires or if he has anything left), but any of those options would be better than letting him repeat this year next year.

[RichHillIsABeast]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hendry was right. It will only take about 5 moves to bring the team back to contention.

 

Does DFAing Rusch, Jones, and Dempster only count as one move? :?

 

Sure let's designate them and loose $14 mil. Are you sure you don't want to try to trade them first?

 

Why? I'd rather put Hendry under the gun w/ 10 days to do something (i.e. trade). DFAing somebody doesn't mean you aren't trading them. I'll take a bullproof cup in exchange for the 3 of them. At least we'd get something of use. If we had to throw in a couple million (like with Nevin) to get a decent prospect in return, that's fine too, but just getting rid of them (and their salaries) is the main thing.

 

We'd just be freeing up space on the 40 man while buying us time to do something with those 3.

 

I must admit I don't know the rules of DFA. But I agree I'd try to get rid of those guys. Don't forget the likes of Blanco, Maybry, and Bynum. Who you could replace with very cheap and very good rookies like Scott Moore, Cedeno, Theroit, and Soto. .

 

Out of your 3 guys though, I wouldn't be in such a hurry to unload Jones. It creates another hole. We need to get CF, 2B, and a SP. Jones puts up decent #'s and can be a productive peice in a contending team.

 

Contending teams need that veteran bench, don't ya know? lol

 

Blanco and Mabry should be allowed to walk. Bynum and Cedeno should be left alongside the curb on the next roadtrip.

 

Moore should be in the minors next season and not rotting on the bench. Soto...well, he helps Rich Hill, so he can stay.

 

I just hate Jones. That's all. We're pretty much stuck with him unless we get real creative.

[A New Era]

He also said about 5 moves is all we need to get back to contention.

 

As long as some of the names he is considering are Santana, Hafner, Howard, Pujols, and Halladay I believe him

 

Hendry was right. It will only take about 5 moves to bring the team back to contention.

 

Does DFAing Rusch, Jones, and Dempster only count as one move? :?

 

Sure let's designate them and loose $14 mil. Are you sure you don't want to try to trade them first?

 

Why? I'd rather put Hendry under the gun w/ 10 days to do something (i.e. trade). DFAing somebody doesn't mean you aren't trading them. I'll take a bullproof cup in exchange for the 3 of them. At least we'd get something of use. If we had to throw in a couple million (like with Nevin) to get a decent prospect in return, that's fine too, but just getting rid of them (and their salaries) is the main thing.

 

We'd just be freeing up space on the 40 man while buying us time to do something with those 3.

 

I must admit I don't know the rules of DFA. But I agree I'd try to get rid of those guys. Don't forget the likes of Blanco, Maybry, and Bynum. Who you could replace with very cheap and very good rookies like Scott Moore, Cedeno, Theroit, and Soto. .

 

Out of your 3 guys though, I wouldn't be in such a hurry to unload Jones. It creates another hole. We need to get CF, 2B, and a SP. Jones puts up decent #'s and can be a productive peice in a contending team.

 

Contending teams need that veteran bench, don't ya know? lol

 

Blanco and Mabry should be allowed to walk. Bynum and Cedeno should be left alongside the curb on the next roadtrip.

 

Moore should be in the minors next season and not rotting on the bench. Soto...well, he helps Rich Hill, so he can stay.

 

I just hate Jones. That's all. We're pretty much stuck with him unless we get real creative.

 

It would be extremly foolish to give up on the 23 year old. Ofcourse I am talking about Ronny Cedeno. Let him be the infeild utility guy. It sure is an imrpovement over last year. In money and upside.

[RichHillIsABeast]

What upside? Cedeno can't hit a lick and seemingly can't do anything but play SS. Even that he doesn't do remarkably well. Great range. Poor glovework, footwork, and throws. I'd rather have Neifi.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I said it.

[RynoRules]

I dunno if I'd rather have Neifi than Cedeno, but I would rather have a better SS or 2B than he appears to be.

[A New Era]

What upside? Cedeno can't hit a lick and seemingly can't do anything but play SS. Even that he doesn't do remarkably well. Great range. Poor glovework, footwork, and throws. I'd rather have Neifi.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I said it.

 

Fred, Cedeno's #'s post ASB please? :D

[Transmogrified Tiger]

What upside? Cedeno can't hit a lick and seemingly can't do anything but play SS. Even that he doesn't do remarkably well. Great range. Poor glovework, footwork, and throws. I'd rather have Neifi.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I said it.

 

Fred, Cedeno's #'s post ASB please? :D

 

.233/.262/.342/.604

[Fred Hornkohl]

What upside? Cedeno can't hit a lick and seemingly can't do anything but play SS. Even that he doesn't do remarkably well. Great range. Poor glovework, footwork, and throws. I'd rather have Neifi.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I said it.

 

Fred, Cedeno's #'s post ASB please? :D

 

.233/.262/.342/.604

 

07/14 - 09/20      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Cedeno            193   19   45    7    1    4   66   17    6   46  0.233  0.262  0.342  0.604

 

Someone told me last year..... "He couldn't possibly do worse than Neifi."

[A New Era]

What upside? Cedeno can't hit a lick and seemingly can't do anything but play SS. Even that he doesn't do remarkably well. Great range. Poor glovework, footwork, and throws. I'd rather have Neifi.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I said it.

 

Fred, Cedeno's #'s post ASB please? :D

 

.233/.262/.342/.604

 

Shhh! I said FRED. :wink: