Nomar?

[BigbadB]

I'd rather stick Nomar in CF than Pierre.

[soccer10k]

we can not afford to sign nomar. i am glad he is playing great and is healthy but we need solid offensive help not another gamble.

it is ok to gamble when you are the favorite to win the division before you sign nomar...he is a bonus. it is ok to gamble on nomar when you have 3 studs in your rotation plus greg maddux...if he falls apart then your pitching should be good enough to carry you. we no longer have that type of pitching.

 

The Cubs don't have right to be picky. They have to gamble. It's much better than their longstanding strategy of sticking with mediocrity.

 

But what happens if we sign Nomar and he misses most of 2007? Then are you going to criticize the Cubs for stupidly spending money on a player that is perennially injured?

[NorthsideAvenger]

145 games of JD Drew beats the living crap out of 162 of Jacque Jones.

 

And how. JD Drew would be pretty much the ONLY possible available RF that I would hope the Cubs consider the idea of moving Jones to CF. But nonetheless, Drew would be such a sight in RF, with his ability to get the ball to the cut-off in less then 10 bounces. And if Moises Alou could be relatively healthy in his three yrs in Chicago, then so could Drew. Now I hope Hendry jumps that bandwagon and go after Drew, if Coletti makes him available.

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I'd take a look at Nomar for third if Ramirez leaves. Other than that, I don't think he fits our needs.

 

I'd be all about getting Drew if the Dodgers made him available. He has a 380 OBP for this season. If we could move Jones and trade for Drew, that would be great. I don't see Hendry moving Jones however.

 

Rather than think about Nomar, the Cubs might want to look at Kent for secondbase.

 

Sorry vance, I am not a fan of a stopgap at 3rd, if ARam leaves. IMO, it should be ARam or Scott Moore, no stopgaps, please. And on Kent, if ARam should leave, then the Cubs should consider rebuilding, and not retooling, and I don't know if Kent would be such a hot idea.

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If the Dodgers are in a hurry to get out from under Drew's contract, then maybe they take Jones for Drew straight up? Jones @ 2/9 maybe looks better to them than Drew @ 3/33.

 

Obviously the talent/production isn't balanced, but we've all seen crazier salary dumps than that. $24M saved is nothing to sneeze at, especially these days, when GMs are swapping contracts as much as they are players.

 

The Dodgers will obviously want a prospect in the deal, if they have to acquire Jones in your scenerio. But depending on how much they want to pick up, would depend on the prospect they got. Obviously, the Gallagher/Veal/Pawelek/Pie would be off-limit, but would somebody like Mateo or Wuertz tempt the Dodgers? IDK, but I would investigate if I was Hendry.

[A New Era]

We SHOULD be looking to upgrade 2nd base. Could Nomar play 2nd base ok? Because if he can he actually fits one of our needs, right now. An offensive upgrade at 2b.

[A New Era]

PS, I'm all for Drew, too.

[goonys evil twin]

we can not afford to sign nomar. i am glad he is playing great and is healthy but we need solid offensive help not another gamble.

it is ok to gamble when you are the favorite to win the division before you sign nomar...he is a bonus. it is ok to gamble on nomar when you have 3 studs in your rotation plus greg maddux...if he falls apart then your pitching should be good enough to carry you. we no longer have that type of pitching.

 

The Cubs don't have right to be picky. They have to gamble. It's much better than their longstanding strategy of sticking with mediocrity.

 

But what happens if we sign Nomar and he misses most of 2007? Then are you going to criticize the Cubs for stupidly spending money on a player that is perennially injured?

 

Would that be the only move? I would sure hope not. Considering that I wanted the return of Nomar as part of the 2006 strategy, I have already contemplated the threat of him not being around all year. The key is to not center your entire season on such a player, like the Cubs pretty much centered everything on Prior and Wood the past few years. They'd still have to get offensive upgrades elsewhere.

[goonys evil twin]

Sorry vance, I am not a fan of a stopgap at 3rd, if ARam leaves. IMO, it should be ARam or Scott Moore, no stopgaps, please. And on Kent, if ARam should leave, then the Cubs should consider rebuilding, and not retooling, and I don't know if Kent would be such a hot idea.

 

Scott Moore is hardly a hang your hat on the guy type of prospect. He's had a pretty ho-hum minor league career. The Cubs have very little choice but to resign Aram. If they fail, they must acquire somebody who stands a very good chance of being highly productive in 2007. Scott Moore is not that player.

[soccer10k]

we can not afford to sign nomar. i am glad he is playing great and is healthy but we need solid offensive help not another gamble.

it is ok to gamble when you are the favorite to win the division before you sign nomar...he is a bonus. it is ok to gamble on nomar when you have 3 studs in your rotation plus greg maddux...if he falls apart then your pitching should be good enough to carry you. we no longer have that type of pitching.

 

The Cubs don't have right to be picky. They have to gamble. It's much better than their longstanding strategy of sticking with mediocrity.

 

But what happens if we sign Nomar and he misses most of 2007? Then are you going to criticize the Cubs for stupidly spending money on a player that is perennially injured?

 

Would that be the only move? I would sure hope not. Considering that I wanted the return of Nomar as part of the 2006 strategy, I have already contemplated the threat of him not being around all year. The key is to not center your entire season on such a player, like the Cubs pretty much centered everything on Prior and Wood the past few years. They'd still have to get offensive upgrades elsewhere.

 

I would hope that wouldn't be the only move as well and I agree with you.

 

I don't want Hendry to even consider Nomar because I know Hendry won't have a backup plan in place just in case - or when if you want to be pessimistic - Nomar gets hurt again. It's one thing to not have a backup in place for Derrek Lee because he had been consistently healthy but it seems as if Hendry didn't even consider the possibility of Wood and Prior not being healthy this year.

[davearm]

If the Dodgers are in a hurry to get out from under Drew's contract, then maybe they take Jones for Drew straight up? Jones @ 2/9 maybe looks better to them than Drew @ 3/33.

 

Obviously the talent/production isn't balanced, but we've all seen crazier salary dumps than that. $24M saved is nothing to sneeze at, especially these days, when GMs are swapping contracts as much as they are players.

 

The Dodgers will obviously want a prospect in the deal, if they have to acquire Jones in your scenerio. But depending on how much they want to pick up, would depend on the prospect they got. Obviously, the Gallagher/Veal/Pawelek/Pie would be off-limit, but would somebody like Mateo or Wuertz tempt the Dodgers? IDK, but I would investigate if I was Hendry.

I don't think anything's obvious here, except that the entire scenario depends greatly on the Dodgers' level of motivation to clear that money.

 

I get the impression that Pat Gillick would be absolutely thrilled to take a guy like Jones back if it meant ridding himself of Pat Burrell and his bloated contract.

 

If the Dodgers get to a similar point with Drew, then anything's possible.

[NCCubFan]

I'd rather stick [you] in CF than Pierre.

Fixed. :D

[ManCrushOnNomar]

yes plz

[BigbadB]

It will be interesting to see what the Dodgers do this offseason. They could free up a ton of money to spend on pitching. A Jacque Jones and a prospect for JD Drew trade isn't that crazy, and would free up even more money for the Dodgers to spend on pitching.

[BigbadB]

I'd rather stick [you] in CF than Pierre.

Fixed. :D

 

Color me in the Brian Giles camp. I'm not leaving San Diego. Sorry.

[jmajew]

If the Dodgers are in a hurry to get out from under Drew's contract, then maybe they take Jones for Drew straight up? Jones @ 2/9 maybe looks better to them than Drew @ 3/33.

 

Obviously the talent/production isn't balanced, but we've all seen crazier salary dumps than that. $24M saved is nothing to sneeze at, especially these days, when GMs are swapping contracts as much as they are players.

 

The Dodgers will obviously want a prospect in the deal, if they have to acquire Jones in your scenerio. But depending on how much they want to pick up, would depend on the prospect they got. Obviously, the Gallagher/Veal/Pawelek/Pie would be off-limit, but would somebody like Mateo or Wuertz tempt the Dodgers? IDK, but I would investigate if I was Hendry.

I don't think anything's obvious here, except that the entire scenario depends greatly on the Dodgers' level of motivation to clear that money.

 

I get the impression that Pat Gillick would be absolutely thrilled to take a guy like Jones back if it meant ridding himself of Pat Burrell and his bloated contract.

 

If the Dodgers get to a similar point with Drew, then anything's possible.

 

I'll tell you right now I'd be an advocate of trading Jones and Mateo/Guzman/Marmol for Pat Burrell. DLee-Ramirez-Burrell looks pretty solid.