Fontenot

[WrigleyField 22]

Can we please drop someone from the 40man and see Fotenot get some big league action?

Walrond

Rusch

Negron

Bynum

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I'm pretty sure he's hurt. He had 1 AB in Iowa's last 3 weeks.

[d_money]

I'm pretty sure he's hurt. He had 1 AB in Iowa's last 3 weeks.

 

How has he been doing this year? Is his time running out?

[mg420]

I'm pretty sure he's hurt. He had 1 AB in Iowa's last 3 weeks.

 

How has he been doing this year? Is his time running out?

 

he slumped before he got injured (if thats what happened to him) but still had a good season. he can also play a little 3b & spell aram once in a while so a theriot/font duo might do well in 07 or until epat makes the jump.

 

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Mike%20Fontenot&pos=&sid=t451&t=p_pbp&pid=430917

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm pretty sure he's hurt. He had 1 AB in Iowa's last 3 weeks.

 

Oh ok.

 

Either way I'd like to see what he can do next year. His minor league numbers are better than Theriots and he has put up consitenty good numbers in AAA for 2-3 years now. His ability to play 3B is nice as well.

[d_money]

Fontenot is now 26. Is it do or die next year? If he hasn't risen yet, will he ever?

 

It seems like we're at the point where we have so many of young infield players (The Riot, Bynum, Ronny C, Scott Moore, E Patt) - an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

While I'm not at all familiar w/ Fontenot, and if he's not up here yet, what value does he add?

 

I'd love if we can develop an outfield thumper. Or do they develop when they're here? Who was the last to come up in the system?

[Rob]

Fontenot is a 2b, and a better one for next season than any of those guys you just mentioned. I get the impression Moore's defense just wouldn't even be Todd Walker level... and EPatt's still a year away, IMHO. But yeah, he'd be a safe bet to outperform Theriot, Bynum, and Cedeno as a 2b.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

[d_money]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

 

Defensively. Strong up the middle defense. Offensively? We have another story.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

 

Defensively. Strong up the middle defense. Offensively? We have another story.

 

In other words, an area where we need help.

[d_money]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

 

Defensively. Strong up the middle defense. Offensively? We have another story.

 

In other words, an area where we need help.

 

Considering the Cubs have such a successful track record of developing position players to the major league Cub level, I'd rather pick up a FA IFer like we've always done. We've seen alot of these guys come up and no one stuck - not even Augie.

[WrigleyField 22]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

 

Defensively. Strong up the middle defense. Offensively? We have another story.

 

In other words, an area where we need help.

 

Considering the Cubs have such a successful track record of developing position players to the major league Cub level, I'd rather pick up a FA IFer like we've always done. We've seen alot of these guys come up and no one stuck - not even Augie.

 

Is this a joke? I don't think anyone ever expected much out of Augie.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Confirmed that Fontenot is injured.

[Jehrico]

I don't see Fontenot as starter material at the major league level (I'd like to eat crow on this one, but I don't see it). I would, however, much prefer him to some overpriced mediocre vet off of the bench next year (obvious example, Neifi).

[EricG]

I don't see Fontenot as starter material at the major league level (I'd like to eat crow on this one, but I don't see it). I would, however, much prefer him to some overpriced mediocre vet off of the bench next year (obvious example, Neifi).

yeah, how about signing the starters before you spend all your money on a veteran bench.

[d_money]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

 

Defensively. Strong up the middle defense. Offensively? We have another story.

 

In other words, an area where we need help.

 

Considering the Cubs have such a successful track record of developing position players to the major league Cub level, I'd rather pick up a FA IFer like we've always done. We've seen alot of these guys come up and no one stuck - not even Augie.

 

Is this a joke? I don't think anyone ever expected much out of Augie.

 

Absolutely, yes. Knowing the lack of success from call ups, I thought I'd harken back to days of Augie.

[Jehrico]

I don't see Fontenot as starter material at the major league level (I'd like to eat crow on this one, but I don't see it). I would, however, much prefer him to some overpriced mediocre vet off of the bench next year (obvious example, Neifi).

yeah, how about signing the starters before you spend all your money on a veteran bench.

 

What a novel concept!

[Jehrico]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

 

Defensively. Strong up the middle defense. Offensively? We have another story.

 

In other words, an area where we need help.

 

Considering the Cubs have such a successful track record of developing position players to the major league Cub level, I'd rather pick up a FA IFer like we've always done. We've seen alot of these guys come up and no one stuck - not even Augie.

 

I don't think that's sound justification to judge the guys we have in AAA now as failures-to-be and not give them a chance over guys like Neifi, Mabry, Lenny Harris, et al.

 

That could also be due partially to how we have handled guys like Theriot and Fontenot in the past. We give the Bobby Hills and Hee Seop Chois all of the chances in the world, but we've never been good about giving chances to guys who ceilings are that of solid role players and not all-stars.

[CuseCubFan69]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

 

Defensively. Strong up the middle defense. Offensively? We have another story.

 

In other words, an area where we need help.

 

Considering the Cubs have such a successful track record of developing position players to the major league Cub level, I'd rather pick up a FA IFer like we've always done. We've seen alot of these guys come up and no one stuck - not even Augie.

 

I don't think that's sound justification to judge the guys we have in AAA now as failures-to-be and not give them a chance over guys like Neifi, Mabry, Lenny Harris, et al.

 

That could also be due partially to how we have handled guys like Theriot and Fontenot in the past. We give the Bobby Hills and Hee Seop Chois all of the chances in the world, but we've never been good about giving chances to guys who ceilings are that of solid role players and not all-stars.

 

And Martinez even. Yeah, he was a decent player but he always seemed to be injured. I do believe in the concept of having a solid bench because of all the day games but you're right, get those starters locked up ASAP. I understand that sometimes a good bench guy may be highly sought after and thus a lot of competition for his services but Hendry has signed way too many below average subs at high prices and as you said...too early and screwing up the budget.

[d_money]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

 

Defensively. Strong up the middle defense. Offensively? We have another story.

 

In other words, an area where we need help.

 

Considering the Cubs have such a successful track record of developing position players to the major league Cub level, I'd rather pick up a FA IFer like we've always done. We've seen alot of these guys come up and no one stuck - not even Augie.

 

I don't think that's sound justification to judge the guys we have in AAA now as failures-to-be and not give them a chance over guys like Neifi, Mabry, Lenny Harris, et al.

That could also be due partially to how we have handled guys like Theriot and Fontenot in the past. We give the Bobby Hills and Hee Seop Chois all of the chances in the world, but we've never been good about giving chances to guys who ceilings are that of solid role players and not all-stars.

 

I totally agree with giving the AAA's the opportunity, but we've gone so long without producing an everyday IFer from within the system. Management regimes have changed over the years but to no avail. Honestly, who is the last everyday IFer our system produced? Mark Grace (I can't think of anyone else, unless its the obvious I can't recall)? Thats a long time.

[Jehrico]

an area where we don't need help (Aram, DLee, Izturis).

 

Huh?

 

Defensively. Strong up the middle defense. Offensively? We have another story.

 

In other words, an area where we need help.

 

Considering the Cubs have such a successful track record of developing position players to the major league Cub level, I'd rather pick up a FA IFer like we've always done. We've seen alot of these guys come up and no one stuck - not even Augie.

 

I don't think that's sound justification to judge the guys we have in AAA now as failures-to-be and not give them a chance over guys like Neifi, Mabry, Lenny Harris, et al.

That could also be due partially to how we have handled guys like Theriot and Fontenot in the past. We give the Bobby Hills and Hee Seop Chois all of the chances in the world, but we've never been good about giving chances to guys who ceilings are that of solid role players and not all-stars.

 

I totally agree with giving the AAA's the opportunity, but we've gone so long without producing an everyday IFer from within the system. Management regimes have changed over the years but to no avail. Honestly, who is the last everyday IFer our system produced? Mark Grace (I can't think of anyone else, unless its the obvious I can't recall)? Thats a long time.

I agree that our record for developing position players has been horrible, I just don't think that past failures should influence the decision making process when evaluating whether guys like Theriot are given a shot. He should be denied a shot if he's not good enough, not because guys before him have failed to pan out.

[WrigleyField 22]

I don't see Fontenot as starter material at the major league level (I'd like to eat crow on this one, but I don't see it). I would, however, much prefer him to some overpriced mediocre vet off of the bench next year (obvious example, Neifi).

 

He could be just as good if not better than Theriot and we are giving him a chance. I'd like to see them split time at 2B next year unlesss you are planning to make a big upgrade like Soriano.

[Jehrico]

I don't see Fontenot as starter material at the major league level (I'd like to eat crow on this one, but I don't see it). I would, however, much prefer him to some overpriced mediocre vet off of the bench next year (obvious example, Neifi).

 

He could be just as good if not better than Theriot and we are giving him a chance. I'd like to see them split time at 2B next year unlesss you are planning to make a big upgrade like Soriano.

There's a few differences between Theriot and Fontenot. Theriot is still young enough to be considered a prospect, while Fontenot should have broke into the bigs already. Theriot has played well at the major league level thus far, while Fontenot (justly or not) has not had the opportunity. Theriot is also a product of Hendry's system, while Fontenot was an acquisition, so Jim may be a little more inclined to give Theriot a chance than Fontenot. None of those things are to say Fontenot is any more or less deserving, or better or worse than Theriot, just reasons that may come into play as to whether or not Fontenot really will have a chance next year.

[CubColtPacer]

I don't see Fontenot as starter material at the major league level (I'd like to eat crow on this one, but I don't see it). I would, however, much prefer him to some overpriced mediocre vet off of the bench next year (obvious example, Neifi).

 

He could be just as good if not better than Theriot and we are giving him a chance. I'd like to see them split time at 2B next year unlesss you are planning to make a big upgrade like Soriano.

There's a few differences between Theriot and Fontenot. Theriot is still young enough to be considered a prospect, while Fontenot should have broke into the bigs already.

 

Theriot is 6 months older than Fontenot.

[Jehrico]

I don't see Fontenot as starter material at the major league level (I'd like to eat crow on this one, but I don't see it). I would, however, much prefer him to some overpriced mediocre vet off of the bench next year (obvious example, Neifi).

 

He could be just as good if not better than Theriot and we are giving him a chance. I'd like to see them split time at 2B next year unlesss you are planning to make a big upgrade like Soriano.

There's a few differences between Theriot and Fontenot. Theriot is still young enough to be considered a prospect, while Fontenot should have broke into the bigs already.

 

Theriot is 6 months older than Fontenot.

 

I thought he was 24? I guess I thought wrong...