The Soccer Thread

[Guest]

So let's try this again what would be ideal shoes to play indoor scoocer

 

I used to play with Puma Cup Trinomics, but that was a very long time ago.

No idea what's on the market these days.

 

this is a bunch of old fart playing competitively, most just wear there Nikes. I would rather not use my running shoes for soccer. If you hear of anything. I know I'll be on the look out for what the yng guns are wearing , Thanks

 

What kind of court/field are you playing on? Knowing that would help us give you advice.

[sethuel1]

So let's try this again what would be ideal shoes to play indoor scoocer

 

I used to play with Puma Cup Trinomics, but that was a very long time ago.

No idea what's on the market these days.

 

this is a bunch of old fart playing competitively, most just wear there Nikes. I would rather not use my running shoes for soccer. If you hear of anything. I know I'll be on the look out for what the yng guns are wearing , Thanks

 

What kind of court/field are you playing on? Knowing that would help us give you advice.

he'd rather just talk down to everyone in the thread than, you know, give information that would allow you to actually help him

[sethuel1]

just get a pair of sambas and stop harassing everyone

[wekse]

just get a pair of sambas and stop harassing everyone

 

i'm waiting for the inevitable "in the old days when everything was better than it is now, shoes only cost $1.50." post.

[USSoccer]

thanks for the help.

 

Either people don't know what to recommend for indoor soccer shoes or it is one of those threads where you can talk a good game but you haven't played in a while. The last option is this thread is just for "elite" soccer fan and not for the ordinary soccer participant.

 

So let's try this again what would be ideal shoes to play indoor scoocer

 

As Vance suggested, go buy a pair of Sambas. You probably aren't going to be playing at a high enough level to need anything better anyway.

[brinoch]

thanks for the help.

 

Either people don't know what to recommend for indoor soccer shoes or it is one of those threads where you can talk a good game but you haven't played in a while. The last option is this thread is just for "elite" soccer fan and not for the ordinary soccer participant.

 

So let's try this again what would be ideal shoes to play indoor scoocer

 

Oooo-kay... I guess my reply doesn't count. Neither does Seth's. So, then, what the hell kind of field do you play on? It makes a difference because every field is different and I know I don't want to suggest something that be less than effective for your particular field. Also, what do you want to spend on them? There are a lot of really expensive shoes out there, but you can probably get something that works well cheaper.

 

The field we play on for indoor is an indoor field turf playing surface, but there are only a smattering of the rubber pellets since the field is older with integrated cushioning and made to roll-up quickly. Permanent fields/expensive fields tend to have a deeper, softer surface which may require cleats. (I wear cleats on our outdoor field, for example.) I play keeper for our team indoors, so cutting is less important in any case. I wear a pair of Puma Vencidas. They cost about $50-60.

 

http://www.gameon24-7.com/notsoccer/assets/product_images/PAAAIAKFHPGMFCDA.jpg

 

By the way, I've been actively playing in multiple leagues that run year-round. I played an outdoor game this morning, and I have an indoor game tonight. What about you? Our team -- basically a coed football club -- plays in three indoor leagues per week, plus an outdoor league. The average age of a player on the team is about 30, I'd say. We're hardly elite.

[hardcorecubfan]

So let's try this again what would be ideal shoes to play indoor scoocer

 

I used to play with Puma Cup Trinomics, but that was a very long time ago.

No idea what's on the market these days.

 

this is a bunch of old fart playing competitively, most just wear there Nikes. I would rather not use my running shoes for soccer. If you hear of anything. I know I'll be on the look out for what the yng guns are wearing , Thanks

 

What kind of court/field are you playing on? Knowing that would help us give you advice.

 

I know it is advertised as being the same turf as on Dallas Cowboy football field. Does that help?

[shnsajax]

I haven't seen this anywhere, but MLS turned down Preston North End's $2million bid for Taylor Twellman. Twellman doesn't seem all that thrilled either. I don't think they will ever get more than that offered for him. Just take the deal and let him go over to a league that he can actually grow in.

 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=497488&cc=5901

[hardcorecubfan]

thanks for the help.

 

Either people don't know what to recommend for indoor soccer shoes or it is one of those threads where you can talk a good game but you haven't played in a while. The last option is this thread is just for "elite" soccer fan and not for the ordinary soccer participant.

 

So let's try this again what would be ideal shoes to play indoor scoocer

 

Oooo-kay... I guess my reply doesn't count. Neither does Seth's. So, then, what the hell kind of field do you play on? It makes a difference because every field is different and I know I don't want to suggest something that be less than effective for your particular field. Also, what do you want to spend on them? There are a lot of really expensive shoes out there, but you can probably get something that works well cheaper.

 

The field we play on for indoor is an indoor field turf playing surface, but there are only a smattering of the rubber pellets since the field is older with integrated cushioning and made to roll-up quickly. Permanent fields/expensive fields tend to have a deeper, softer surface which may require cleats. (I wear cleats on our outdoor field, for example.) I play keeper for our team indoors, so cutting is less important in any case. I wear a pair of Puma Vencidas. They cost about $50-60.

 

http://www.gameon24-7.com/notsoccer/assets/product_images/PAAAIAKFHPGMFCDA.jpg

 

By the way, I've been actively playing in multiple leagues that run year-round. I played an outdoor game this morning, and I have an indoor game tonight. What about you? Our team -- basically a coed football club -- plays in three indoor leagues per week, plus an outdoor league. The average age of a player on the team is about 30, I'd say. We're hardly elite.

 

Thanks I check them out. I coach my little one for the last cpl of years, have probably had an interest for years but like it was suggested by another poster the good old days we only played soccer in gym as a "this is what they do overseas activity." The team is fairly new and organized by a guy in the school district. I have been told if we enjoy this experience we will be stay together for outdoor. I have noticed at least from my daughter that the ball spins incredibly indoors, any suggestion on how to play that spin so you can control it better.

[hardcorecubfan]

thanks for the help.

 

Either people don't know what to recommend for indoor soccer shoes or it is one of those threads where you can talk a good game but you haven't played in a while. The last option is this thread is just for "elite" soccer fan and not for the ordinary soccer participant.

 

So let's try this again what would be ideal shoes to play indoor scoocer

 

As Vance suggested, go buy a pair of Sambas. You probably aren't going to be playing at a high enough level to need anything better anyway.

 

Thank you, any and all advice will help and is appreciated.

[hardcorecubfan]

So let's try this again what would be ideal shoes to play indoor scoocer

 

I used to play with Puma Cup Trinomics, but that was a very long time ago.

No idea what's on the market these days.

 

this is a bunch of old fart playing competitively, most just wear there Nikes. I would rather not use my running shoes for soccer. If you hear of anything. I know I'll be on the look out for what the yng guns are wearing , Thanks

 

What kind of court/field are you playing on? Knowing that would help us give you advice.

he'd rather just talk down to everyone in the thread than, you know, give information that would allow you to actually help him

 

 

You got to understand, last time I did ask for help coaching soccer, because I was a new soccer coach I was given no response. I originally thought the thread was to promote soccer seemed to only cater to the elite fans, unfortunately it left a sour taste. As we know there are positive and negative people in everything we do and every thread that we start.

 

For you that helped thank you.

[wolf stansson]

I haven't seen this anywhere, but MLS turned down Preston North End's $2million bid for Taylor Twellman. Twellman doesn't seem all that thrilled either. I don't think they will ever get more than that offered for him. Just take the deal and let him go over to a league that he can actually grow in.

 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=497488&cc=5901

I for one could not give two craps about Twellman's development. This isn't a Landon Donovan situation where he could take his game to the next level by playing in the soda league. He is one player I'd rather see stay in MLS. He is quality in the league and would do more for US Soccer by staying in MLS and being a good domestic player.

[shnsajax]

klinsmann to take over at bayern munich this summer.

 

Liverpool now appear to be in some sort of talks with Klinsmann too.

 

Tom Hicks admits

[wolf stansson]

klinsmann to take over at bayern munich this summer.

 

Liverpool now appear to be in some sort of talks with Klinsmann too.

 

Tom Hicks admits

I thought the deal was already done at Bayern...I don't like this.

[USSoccer]

I haven't seen this anywhere, but MLS turned down Preston North End's $2million bid for Taylor Twellman. Twellman doesn't seem all that thrilled either. I don't think they will ever get more than that offered for him. Just take the deal and let him go over to a league that he can actually grow in.

 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=497488&cc=5901

I for one could not give two craps about Twellman's development. This isn't a Landon Donovan situation where he could take his game to the next level by playing in the soda league. He is one player I'd rather see stay in MLS. He is quality in the league and would do more for US Soccer by staying in MLS and being a good domestic player.

 

x2. Playing in the Colaship means nothing for Twellman and his melon sized head. He is what he is. Playing for PNE against like Wigan or Watford isn't going to make him not suck. He's worth more to to the US Soccer program in MLS where he can be a "high level" player in MLS.

[wolf stansson]

http://www.soccerbyives.net/

Eddie Johnson's pending transfer move to English club Fulham is "99 percent done" a source told SBI on Tuesday. The details of the transfer fee were not made available but Johnson is expected to join fellow Americans Clint Dempsey, Carlos Bocanegra, Brian McBride and Kasey Keller on the struggling English club as early as this weekend.

 

Johnson and his agent, Richard Motzkin, are in London finalizing the deal that is expected to net Major League Soccer close to $6 million in transfer fees, which would easily shatter the previous record for an MLS transfer fee, held by Clint Dempsey.

 

 

Dear Fulham,

Thank you sincerely for giving me Americans to root for in the BPL. Thank you also for your recent acquisition of Eddie Johnson. I am excited to see him want to raise his level of play in the best league in the world.

 

I feel I should warn you though. Ives' article says you are going to pay more for him than you paid for Deuce. I feel this would be a bad move and hope you understand what you are getting into. Eddie will give you all boners with his speed and athletic ability, but his timidity and penchant for disappearing against physical defending make him all but a lock to fail miserably in England. In Deuce you had a still developing, creative and dynamic player who works incredibly hard and always gives it his all. In Eddie, well, you have the opposite of that.

 

I hope it works out for all involved, I just don't think it will.

 

Thanks,

Wolf

 

PS, good luck next year in the Championship, but plz don't scapegoat the Americans on your team as Clint and Boca are two of the few premiership quality players on your squad.

 

PPS, if you want to sign some American that will actually help you, sign Michael Parkhurst and Michael Bradley.

[sethuel1]

http://www.soccerbyives.net/

Eddie Johnson's pending transfer move to English club Fulham is "99 percent done" a source told SBI on Tuesday. The details of the transfer fee were not made available but Johnson is expected to join fellow Americans Clint Dempsey, Carlos Bocanegra, Brian McBride and Kasey Keller on the struggling English club as early as this weekend.

 

Johnson and his agent, Richard Motzkin, are in London finalizing the deal that is expected to net Major League Soccer close to $6 million in transfer fees, which would easily shatter the previous record for an MLS transfer fee, held by Clint Dempsey.

 

 

Dear Fulham,

Thank you sincerely for giving me Americans to root for in the BPL. Thank you also for your recent acquisition of Eddie Johnson. I am excited to see him want to raise his level of play in the best league in the world.

 

I feel I should warn you though. Ives' article says you are going to pay more for him than you paid for Deuce. I feel this would be a bad move and hope you understand what you are getting into. Eddie will give you all boners with his speed and athletic ability, but his timidity and penchant for disappearing against physical defending make him all but a lock to fail miserably in England. In Deuce you had a still developing, creative and dynamic player who works incredibly hard and always gives it his all. In Eddie, well, you have the opposite of that.

 

I hope it works out for all involved, I just don't think it will.

 

Thanks,

Wolf

 

PS, good luck next year in the Championship, but plz don't scapegoat the Americans on your team as Clint and Boca are two of the few premiership quality players on your squad.

 

PPS, if you want to sign some American that will actually help you, sign Michael Parkhurst and Michael Bradley.

 

Agreed, although i would be pissed if Bradley went to Fulham. His recent growth (which i am floored by) suggests he could be much more.

[shnsajax]

http://www.soccerbyives.net/

Eddie Johnson's pending transfer move to English club Fulham is "99 percent done" a source told SBI on Tuesday. The details of the transfer fee were not made available but Johnson is expected to join fellow Americans Clint Dempsey, Carlos Bocanegra, Brian McBride and Kasey Keller on the struggling English club as early as this weekend.

 

Johnson and his agent, Richard Motzkin, are in London finalizing the deal that is expected to net Major League Soccer close to $6 million in transfer fees, which would easily shatter the previous record for an MLS transfer fee, held by Clint Dempsey.

 

 

Dear Fulham,

Thank you sincerely for giving me Americans to root for in the BPL. Thank you also for your recent acquisition of Eddie Johnson. I am excited to see him want to raise his level of play in the best league in the world.

 

I feel I should warn you though. Ives' article says you are going to pay more for him than you paid for Deuce. I feel this would be a bad move and hope you understand what you are getting into. Eddie will give you all boners with his speed and athletic ability, but his timidity and penchant for disappearing against physical defending make him all but a lock to fail miserably in England. In Deuce you had a still developing, creative and dynamic player who works incredibly hard and always gives it his all. In Eddie, well, you have the opposite of that.

 

I hope it works out for all involved, I just don't think it will.

 

Thanks,

Wolf

 

PS, good luck next year in the Championship, but plz don't scapegoat the Americans on your team as Clint and Boca are two of the few premiership quality players on your squad.

 

PPS, if you want to sign some American that will actually help you, sign Michael Parkhurst and Michael Bradley.

 

Agreed, although i would be pissed if Bradley went to Fulham. His recent growth (which i am floored by) suggests he could be much more.

 

I'm still shocked and waiting for him to come back to earth.

[wolf stansson]

I'm still shocked and waiting for him to come back to earth.

What is it now? 11 goals from a 19 year old defensive mid?

 

Awesome.

 

Btw - Feilhaber is considering a transfer to Tel Aviv.

 

Just get on the field, Benny.

[shnsajax]

I'm still shocked and waiting for him to come back to earth.

What is it now? 11 goals from a 19 year old defensive mid?

 

Awesome.

 

Btw - Feilhaber is considering a transfer to Tel Aviv.

 

Just get on the field, Benny.

 

I'm just shocked and happy. Don't see this kind of rise out of a US born player.

[sethuel1]

I'm still shocked and waiting for him to come back to earth.

What is it now? 11 goals from a 19 year old defensive mid?

 

Awesome.

 

Btw - Feilhaber is considering a transfer to Tel Aviv.

 

Just get on the field, Benny.

 

I'm just shocked and happy. Don't see this kind of rise out of a US born player.

And I certainly couldn't have predicted it even half a year ago. He showed almost no signs of being able to make this sort of jump this summer, with the exception of 85 very solid minutes against Canada in the Gold Cup (followed by an awful red card foul) and a few decent games against U-20 competition

[Jon]

The new Fire road kit:

 

http://chicago.fire.mlsnet.com/images/2008/01/15/dVaenHsC.jpg

 

Pretty meh.

 

They'll look better at home, though:

 

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f243/fire_fotos/Photo_111407_001.jpg

[sethuel1]

Road: no

 

home:yes

 

Blanco: ugly

[wolf stansson]

Rossi to choose to play for Italy

A special day in the charmed life of Giuseppe Rossi is fast approaching. On Feb. 1, Rossi will turn 21, but the date will mean more than a birthday. It will also mark the day Rossi will have to choose between playing for the country he was born in and playing for the country in which his parents were born.

 

According to the rules of FIFA, the governing body for soccer, a player can change national team affiliation to his nation of birth before he or she turns 21. After that, a player is then bound to whichever national team he has been playing for.

 

For all intents and purposes, Rossi has made that decision already. The Clifton native, who spent the first 14 years of his life honing his skills in Passaic County, has played for Italian youth national teams for six years now and has stated repeatedly that his goal is to play for the Italian senior national team. So when his birthday comes and goes next month, so will any chance of him ever playing for the United States.

 

So how does a kid who grew up in New Jersey develop such a bond to Italy? His parents, Fernando and Cleonilda, were both Italian immigrants who established their lives in the United States as educators. Cleonilda is still a teacher at Clifton High School while Fernando, the legendary coach who turned Clifton into a perennial power, joined his son in Europe to help oversee his career.

 

Fernando is the one who used his coaching expertise to train Rossi intensely from an early age, and the bond between father and son surely helped instill Giuseppe's love for his Italian heritage. Once Rossi had the opportunity put on the famed blue jersey for Italy as a young boy, the stage was set for him to make the decision that will become etched in stone on Feb. 1.

 

American soccer fans and U.S. Soccer officials have been dreading that date as well, knowing all too well that potentially the best player ever produced by this country would never wear the colors of the United States. It is a bitter pill that has led many fans to call Rossi a traitor or some sort of evil person for simply following his heart.

 

It is all a bit much. Rossi is no mercenary, joining a national team he has no real blood ties to, like so many players you see joining national teams across the world. He is simply choosing to fulfill a life-long dream, to play for his father's country, to play for one of the best teams in the world. There is no shame or crime in that.

 

The only shame, if there is one, is that Rossi wasn't born a little bit later. Perhaps if his formative years hadn't come during a low point in U.S. Soccer, in the wake of the disastrous showing at the 1998 World Cup, maybe Rossi would have had a reason to consider his home country. Perhaps if he was still living in the United States and not already in the youth program of Italian club Parma, Rossi might have been caught up in the wave of pride during the 2002 World Cup, when the United States reached the quarterfinals, a round further than Italy.

 

Perhaps Rossi would have seen some young Americans to look up to, like Landon Donovan and DaMarcus Beasley, who could have battled for his heart with Italian legends like Roberto Baggio and Paolo Maldini.

 

Perhaps if Rossi grew up now, he would have been able to see a stronger and more attractive Major League Soccer, rather than a league in its formative years, a league he largely ignored in favor of European soccer.

 

These are the factors that make it easier to understand how a player whose Italian teammates used to call "America" could feel so little connection to the country where he first kicked a soccer ball, first scored a goal and first became a young star.

 

That doesn't make it any easier for the U.S. national team, which could use a player just like him: a pure goal scorer who has excelled in leagues where few Americans have even played. The biggest weakness on the U.S. team is forward, and here is Rossi, among the goal-scoring leaders in Spain for Villarreal, just a year removed from scoring goals in bunches for Italian club Parma.

 

This is what led U.S. Soccer officials to contact Rossi with hopes of having real discussions about his future and if there was any chance of that future involving the U.S. national team.

 

Those talks never went anywhere because Rossi's mind had been made up. Now, U.S. soccer officials and fans have been left to consider what might have been.

 

Rossi would have been the star for the United States, a potential dream strike partner for rising prospect Jozy Altidore at the 2010 World Cup. For Italy, he is just one of many standout forwards in his own generation. That is what will make it tough for some American fans to stomach, watching Rossi blossom into a world-class player, which he has already shown signs of being.

 

As difficult as that will be, if there is any consolation in losing Rossi, it is that the soccer environment in this country has improved to a point that young players coming up have a national team to identify with, star players to emulate and a growing professional league to aspire to play for.

 

This doesn't guarantee that some American-born player may not come along and choose another country over the United States. But it will make it more difficult.

 

As far as Rossi playing for the United States, it just wasn't meant to be. His 21st birthday will come and go and he will continue his career with Italy. Rossi's future looks very bright, and even though Rossi won't be a part of it, so does American soccer's.

[Jon]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/imoriginallikeu/firejerseynew1.jpg

 

I don't know how they could mess it up, but they did. I think having "BEST BUY" so small hurts, but the classic Fire stripe just looks awkward. It looks like they just wrote Best Buy on a sheet of paper and taped it to the chest.