08/10 CUBS (Prior) @ Milwaukee (Davis) 1:05 CDT, WGN-TV

[Jim Ignatowski]

Thanks Cubbies75. Aram has done a better job of hitting HRs when the outcome of the game is in doubt than I thought. He just may be worth the money I'm sure he'll demand.

 

In any event, he's a keeper, but will Hendry realize that?

[soccer10k]

Holy cow. I just tuned back in and saw Hank White with the 2 run blast. Cubs are only down 2 now.

[Soriano12]

Hank the Tank

[YearofDaCubs]

His curve doesn't have that snap on it and his fastball isn't consistent in the 92-94 range that it used to be. He's done for.[/quote]

 

I hope you mean he's done for the year. When you couple not being consistantly healthy, with having the whole bench in the starting lineup behind, equals less confidence. I think the problem with Prior right now, is confidence, he doesn't have that swagger he had in 2003. I don't think he's done, I think his confidence needs to rebuilt.

 

let's see...he is hitting 88 on the gun, he used to 93-94 for the whole game. this has been happening for a while. his pitch counts are astronomical because he has no command...that's been going on since last june. i haven't done the research yet but i know his era is over 5.00 since last june...this is a large sample size and he shows absolutely no signs of anything changing! much like i said with wood last offfseason..we need to find someone to take him at cost for anything...a dozen balls.and indy player...assistant trainer..anything- cut our losses and use the 5-6 mil to add to the savings from wood/maddux and sign at least 2 starters!

 

i like prior..i hope he does great BUT if we want to win next year we can not sit back and hope he becomes prior again. if we wait to find out if he won't , no one will ever take him unless we pay his salary, which does us no good.

Actually, trading him for an assitant trainer is a great idea. I can't remember the last time this organization properly diagnosed somebody.

[PrimeTime]

ya with 3 outs left.. you know we wont tie it... dont actually get your hopes up.. its the cubs

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I like Theirot because he can do damage on the basepaths

 

Damage to our offense, maybe. His 2003-2005 stolen base percentage was 66%, less than the break even point of 70%-75%.

 

I'd much rather have Theriot out there than Tony Womack or Neifi Perez, but to badmouth Walker and praise Theriot in the same breath is ridiculous and hurts your credibility.

[Jerry Mumphrey]

Hey fellas? Fellas? Without looking I'm going to call BS on the "Todd Walker's slugging percentage is .388" claim. I'm pretty sure it's a bit higher than that. Anyone want to check and link to it? We may just all be too quick to apologize in the face of slander.

[cheapseats]

Hey fellas? Fellas? Without looking I'm going to call BS on the "Todd Walker's slugging percentage is .388" claim. I'm pretty sure it's a bit higher than that. Anyone want to check and link to it? We may just all be too quick to apologize in the face of slander.

 

No, that's what it is this year.

[Drew Doughty]

Hey fellas? Fellas? Without looking I'm going to call BS on the "Todd Walker's slugging percentage is .388" claim. I'm pretty sure it's a bit higher than that. Anyone want to check and link to it? We may just all be too quick to apologize in the face of slander.

 

SLG with the Cubs (362 PAs): 390

SLG with the Padres (21 PAs): 350

[YearofDaCubs]

Hey fellas? Fellas? Without looking I'm going to call BS on the "Todd Walker's slugging percentage is .388" claim. I'm pretty sure it's a bit higher than that. Anyone want to check and link to it? We may just all be too quick to apologize in the face of slander.

That sounds right. Sluggin for the cubs this year is .390 for the Padres is .350. Walker wasn't that great for us this year power wise.

[Jim Ignatowski]

Regarding Todd Walker, let me quote Fred from page one of this game thread:

 

 

Percentage of baserunners driven in

 

Code:

04/03 - 08/09 BDI LOB RBI%

Restovich 1 2 0.333

Blanco 19 49 0.279

Walker 34 105 0.245

Perez 22 76 0.224

Ramirez 47 163 0.224

Barrett 32 113 0.221

Murton 31 112 0.217

Jones 38 140 0.213

Theriot 1 4 0.200

Mabry 11 55 0.167

Izturis 2 10 0.167

Pagan 6 31 0.162

Nevin 12 65 0.156

Lee 10 58 0.147

Pierre 21 124 0.145

Bynum 4 25 0.138

Cedeno 25 158 0.137

Hairston 4 27 0.129

Womack 1 14 0.067

 

CUBS 334 1422 0.190

 

 

 

Well, Freds looked nicer, just go back to page one.

[Soriano12]

 

I like Theirot because he can do damage on the basepaths

 

Damage to our offense, maybe. His 2003-2005 stolen base percentage was 66%, less than the break even point of 70%-75%.

 

I'd much rather have Theriot out there than Tony Womack or Neifi Perez, but to badmouth Walker and praise Theriot in the same breath is ridiculous and hurts your credibility.

 

Whatever. Theirot is a better athlete and overall ball player than Walker and Cedeno. and It goes beyond the stats.

 

Theirot has good range at 2B, good speed which is helpful for staying out of DB's etc. and gets on base, takes pitches, works counts...etc...

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I like Theirot because he can do damage on the basepaths

 

Damage to our offense, maybe. His 2003-2005 stolen base percentage was 66%, less than the break even point of 70%-75%.

 

I'd much rather have Theriot out there than Tony Womack or Neifi Perez, but to badmouth Walker and praise Theriot in the same breath is ridiculous and hurts your credibility.

 

Whatever. Theirot is a better athlete

 

Good. We need more athletes and team speed.

[neely crenshaw]

i like todd walker. however he does seem to get sent packing quite a bit from his many teams despite solid numbers...

 

 

also you can not forget the likes of macias, hollandsworth, simon, blanco,

restovich,grimm, womack,mabry,bynum, miller,gerrult....

 

Why Blanco? He's a backup catcher. A good defensive one at that. What were you looking for?

 

What is wrong with giving someone like Restovich a shot? The Cubs have never really given him that shot, but he was a cheap pick up and worthy of a look, imo.

 

there is nothing wrong with any of them but when they are constantly the biggest moves made and we pay many an unslightly amount of money it is poor...and whether you like the guy or not when you cruise the scrap heap signing guys that is dumpster diving...

just a quick example while we were dumpster diving for neifi, and womack..and paying an absurd amount for nefster, the sox scooped a rather useful alex cintron for next to nothing..

many teams seem to like to fill these spots with young players..perhaps theriot could have played more of nefster and womack's innings at a fraction of the cost...

we gave away corey patterson...so that we could grab bynum? why? if corey's done then let him be a bench player...obviously he wasn't done which adds to the frustration. it would have been one thing if we traded for some value but we got a class A player...

[Jerry Mumphrey]

SLG with the Cubs (362 PAs): 390

SLG with the Padres (21 PAs): 350

 

Hey thanks, I guess we should've kept Grudz.

[Soriano12]

ohhh and I forgot that Walker was a beotch that whined and cried when

Brenly was critical of him.

[USSoccer]

speaking of team speed, our much needed leadoff hitter just got thrown out trying to steal 2nd base, down 2, in the 8th inning, with Theriot up 2-1 in the count, and Ramirez on deck.

 

Brilliant. Let's extend this man.

[soccer10k]

Good job Juan. Way to not give a guy who is 3-3 on the day a chance to get on base in the eighth to bring ARam up.

[Mark Priors Calves]

great time to get caught stealing.

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great time to get caught stealing.

 

Just doing damage on the basepaths.

[Soriano12]

Pee-Air needs all the SB's he can get to cash in on that 5 year 50 million dollar deal.

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Pee-Air needs all the SB's he can get to cash in on that 5 year 50 million dollar deal.

 

But you like his speed and athleticism, right?

[CubColtPacer]

speaking of team speed, our much needed leadoff hitter just got thrown out trying to steal 2nd base, down 2, in the 8th inning, with Theriot up 2-1 in the count, and Ramirez on deck.

 

Brilliant. Let's extend this man.

 

Yeah, this is a situation where I don't thing that he can be defended. Looking at the replay, he looks like he was safe, but that doesn't matter in this spot..the decision was just absolutely terrible.

[Jerry Mumphrey]

All of Pierre's SB's come in meaningless games when the outcome is no longer in doubt. Hey Fred...

[Soriano12]

Pee-Air needs all the SB's he can get to cash in on that 5 year 50 million dollar deal.

 

But you like his speed and athleticism, right?

 

No. I'd rather have Doug Dascenzo in CF.