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I have made it clear that I am not a fan of Hill. I don't think he's nearly as good as a lot of people do, and I think his perceived trade value is his only redeeming quality.

 

Having said that, this club is [expletive] for not allowing him to showcase his talents in a consistent fashion to see if he can figure it out at this level. He has been roughed up and yanked. Sent to the bullpen then sent down. Called up a 2nd time, got roughed up, and deported once again. I would love to see Hill prove me wrong. Meanwhile, Marshall has been looked upon as though he's some sort of savior and is quite frankly putting up some bad numbers. (and yes, I understand the age, experience level, rookie bound to progress stuff, etc.) Hill is more deserving of a spot on this roster than Rusch, and he should be given that spot for the remainder of this season.

 

Marshall has shown the ability to get people out at the ML level and has made numerous quality starts this year. Obviously not every young pitcher is going to pitch like Jered Weaver or Liriano, but I want to see some progress which is what Marshall has shown at points this year. Has he had his setbacks? Of course. Most young pitchers do. But Hill hasn't shown any progress.

 

Again, how could you possibly percieve "progress" or "regression" in only FOUR CONSECUTIVE STARTS!?

 

Why couldn't you? If you are making the same mistakes for 4 straight startsl then you aren't exactly making progress right?

 

"sample size". Heard of it? Give him more than "you there! Succeed at the major league level in 4 starts or you're GONE!!". . "BTW be more like Marshall, he's good" (when he's not THAT good). .

 

Hill has dominated AAA. He is ready to be a major leaguer. Now is the time to let him get over his lumps. It would be incredibly stupid if the Cubs only gave him 1 or 2 starts before they start pressuring him to do better. In a better organization, Rich Hill might be pictching with a 3.00 ERA by now. I have no doubt.

 

If Hill has a 9.00 ERA after 10 starts, I might start to lean your way. But not after 4. BTW if this (your position on Hill) is what Hill has to deal with in Dusty and Rothy then I can understand why he has mental problems pitching on the Cubs.

 

What about after 8 starts - which is how many he has at the ML level?

 

8 consecutive starts? NO. 8 starts spattered around 2 years of being tossed in the rotation and yanked back out, brought up, sent down. Talk to me when Hill gets a "fair" shot.

 

I wasn't sure if you meant 10 total starts or 10 consecutive starts. Thanks for clarifying.

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I say toss Rich out there for the rest of the season. If he flames out, he'll have almost no trade value, which is probably about what he has now anyway. If he shows flashes of being decent, get something good for him because I don't see him as a long-term solution.
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"Welcome back to the bigs, kid. All you have to do to stay here is shut out St. Louis or it's back to the minors when Marshall's off the DL. By the way, good luck with Pujols & Rolen."
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"Welcome back to the bigs, kid. All you have to do to stay here is shut out St. Louis or it's back to the minors when Marshall's off the DL. By the way, good luck with Pujols & Rolen."

 

This language was taken directly from an actual Chicago Cub interoffice memo.

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"It's on him, man," Baker said. "We give people opportunities, and it's up to them to seize that opportunity. Usually we don't make snap judgments on opportunities, unless the guy is just stinking up the place so bad you can't help it.

 

words of encouragement!

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"It's on him, man," Baker said. "We give people opportunities, and it's up to them to seize that opportunity. Usually we don't make snap judgments on opportunities, unless the guy is just stinking up the place so bad you can't help it.

 

words of encouragement!

 

Yeah man. Just don't stink it up like you usually do kid, and you'll be ok. BTW stop sucking.

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"Welcome back to the bigs, kid. All you have to do to stay here is shut out St. Louis or it's back to the minors when Marshall's off the DL. By the way, good luck with Pujols & Rolen."
"Just relax, dude, and pitch like you have no pressure on you. It's only your baseball career on the line; it's not life and death."

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