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Vernon Wells-06 3rd selection, 3 time gold glover. Alex Rios-06 (injured could not play) Michael Young 06-3rd selection and AL batting champ last yr. Roy Halladay06- 3rd/4th selection and Cy Young winner, Chris Carpenter -06 2nd selection and Cy Young Winner. Also all stars in the past with Wilken association, Carlos Delgado, Shawn Green, Shannon Stewart along with Derek Bell, Mike Sharperson, Pat Borders who was World Series Mvp in 92 and Jimmy Key a 4 time selection. Also Orlando Hudson a gold glover last yr and Ryan Freel who some say is thee best super utility player in the game. Looked this up and thought I'd share this!
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While I don't hate Colvin, I do understand the value of that pick is completely wasted on him.

 

We could have easily drafted Drabek, who scouts rated the best SS and HS pitcher in the draft. We could have still had Mr. All American WR with our 5th rounder because no one was going to look to pay that kind of money for a guy who is a better prospect in another (more dangerous) sport.

 

I'm still wondering why we (and everyone else) passed on Walden, Lars Anderson, Giardina, and a bunch of other highly talented guys. And while we were spending big money on monster risks, why didn't we do it to some of the drafts more highly touted guys like those listed above.

 

I dont know enough about our draft to complain, but it wouldn't have killed us to use our big money advantage on some of the draft harder signs.

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As of today, July 21, things are looking much, much better for the college draftees than they did at first. Colvin had a horrible start, good fodder for all the "Colvin was a terrible pick" fans. Now that he's been really hot lately, and as a 20-year old has climbed up over .800 OPS (hopefully and rising, although he's been so hot that he's probably due for a sag...), he looks a lot better.

 

Sam hasn't been dominant at Boise, but a 2.38 ERA looks promising if he stuck to it.

 

Lansford has a horrible start in terms of average, but is now hitting .300, and appears to have the plate discipline/OBP that the board is constantly complaining that the Cubs lack.

 

Clevenger had a horrible start in terms of average, but is now on a hot streak also, and has boosted his OBP into upper .300's. His choice wasn't real popular; who wants a SS without speed who can't play SS, when BA or whomever suggests he might need to move to 3rd but has no 3B power? But playing 2B, his bat looks fine, again a guy who profiles as a strong plate discipline/contact/high OBP hitter that we're always complaining that the Cubs undervalue.

 

The past 1-2 weeks has seen all three of Colvin, Lansford, and Clevenger jump from the .100's (or worse) into good batting average ranges.

 

Obviously the news has not been good after that. Clifford Anderson has been K'ing like there's no tomorrow, at an almost unheard of pace.

 

Except, not at a pace that's even close to Rundle! Rundle has been K'ing like 70% of his AB! Making Harvey look like contact hitter supreme.

 

Billy Muldowney has disappeared; injured? Who knows.

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Maybe one of the steals for the Cubs so far is 49th round pick Ryne Malone. So far in 21 games for Peoria he's hitting .319/.417/.514/.931 with 9 doubles, a triple, and a homer. He's also shown good discipline at the plate with an 11/9 K/BB ratio, and he's shown the ability to play both 2B and 3B so far. At only 21 years old he's also at a pretty age-appropriate league.
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Obviously the news has not been good after that. Clifford Anderson has been K'ing like there's no tomorrow, at an almost unheard of pace.

 

Except, not at a pace that's even close to Rundle! Rundle has been K'ing like 70% of his AB! Making Harvey look like contact hitter supreme.

 

Meh, I've been warming more and more to using IsoD over K/BB for hitting prospects. Both have very good IsoD rates and also are down in Mesa, likely working on approaches at the plate, swing mechanics, and so on.

 

I wouldn't worry much, if any, about either at this point.

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As of today, July 21, things are looking much, much better for the college draftees than they did at first. Colvin had a horrible start, good fodder for all the "Colvin was a terrible pick" fans. Now that he's been really hot lately, and as a 20-year old has climbed up over .800 OPS (hopefully and rising, although he's been so hot that he's probably due for a sag...), he looks a lot better.

 

Sam hasn't been dominant at Boise, but a 2.38 ERA looks promising if he stuck to it.

 

Lansford has a horrible start in terms of average, but is now hitting .300, and appears to have the plate discipline/OBP that the board is constantly complaining that the Cubs lack.

 

Clevenger had a horrible start in terms of average, but is now on a hot streak also, and has boosted his OBP into upper .300's. His choice wasn't real popular; who wants a SS without speed who can't play SS, when BA or whomever suggests he might need to move to 3rd but has no 3B power? But playing 2B, his bat looks fine, again a guy who profiles as a strong plate discipline/contact/high OBP hitter that we're always complaining that the Cubs undervalue.

 

The past 1-2 weeks has seen all three of Colvin, Lansford, and Clevenger jump from the .100's (or worse) into good batting average ranges.

 

Obviously the news has not been good after that. Clifford Anderson has been K'ing like there's no tomorrow, at an almost unheard of pace.

 

Except, not at a pace that's even close to Rundle! Rundle has been K'ing like 70% of his AB! Making Harvey look like contact hitter supreme.

 

Billy Muldowney has disappeared; injured? Who knows.

 

now why would you go and acutally update the draftees. I was really enjoying yet another rant bitching about Colvin.

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Doesn't Tim Wilken have a good track record?

 

And if that is the case, should this pick be written off?

 

He's drafted guys who have made the majors. But he hasn't exactly created a juggernaut with his picks.

 

You can't write it off, but there's nothing wrong with criticizing, nor assuming the worst until you've been proved otherwise.

 

nutshell.

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I fail to see how Colvin putting up an .850 OPS in Boise as a college draftee proves he's not a bust. It's far from being a disaster, but it's also far from warranting I told you so's.

 

I think it's helped him out significantly, though. He's showing power, patience, some defensive prowess, and, most importantly (imo), the ability to play CF.

 

Everyone was ripping on the pick figuring he'd be a LF. However, as a CF, his value as a prospect goes up by an immense degree.

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