Olney's article indicates Wood/Prior have little value

[TheDude]

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GMs around the league are suggesting Wood and Pior are worth only B prospects at best, some even said C prospects.

 

That is way less than anyone around here would predict, so here's hoping at least Wood puts on a good show the next couple months to raise his value.

[Proven Veteran]

I think it's propaganda from teams that are interested.

[Dirt Dog Sparly]

Since I am on an boycott of that network till they get rid of Joe M. care to summarize the artice for the rest of us?

[Banedon]

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GMs around the league are suggesting Wood and Pior are worth only B prospects at best, some even said C prospects.

 

That is way less than anyone around here would predict, so here's hoping at least Wood puts on a good show the next couple months to raise his value.

 

Why do we want Wood to be of high value? If he's low value, then we can re-sign him much cheaper in the offseason since he's not going to get big bucks from these teams that view him so poorly. If he's got a high value, we just lose a high value guy to another team. He's got a NTC so he's not going anywhere.

[goonys evil twin]

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GMs around the league are suggesting Wood and Pior are worth only B prospects at best, some even said C prospects.

 

That is way less than anyone around here would predict, so here's hoping at least Wood puts on a good show the next couple months to raise his value.

 

Why do we want Wood to be of high value? If he's low value, then we can re-sign him much cheaper in the offseason since he's not going to get big bucks from these teams that view him so poorly. If he's got a high value, we just lose a high value guy to another team. He's got a NTC so he's not going anywhere.

 

If he's high value you pick up the option, no questions asked. What good does letting him walk do? It's not like Jim is capable of using that $13m wisely on other players. He'll just spread it around to a group of completely replacable mediocrities.

[Bruno7481]

I think they are worth a little more than B level prospects, but their value is obviously nowhere near where it could have been. Neither one has some the ability to stay healthy. I know Prior has had some freak injuries, but the mystery around his latest injury has to cause some concern.

 

Just from reading Will Carroll, he's not too optimistic on Prior, based on what he is hearing. He caught a lot of heat form his report about him being injured in ST, but turns out he was right.

 

For any of them to increase their value they will have to come back and prove to be healthy. And if they do, the Cubs would probably better off to hold onto them.

[srbin84]

If you think about it, the Cubs probably are planning on dealing Prior once his value goes up not just for the obvious reasons but I don't see them paying Z and Prior 12-15 million each when they hit free agency...and after Wood, I don't see them giving that type of contract to an injury prone player again.

[goonys evil twin]

It would only make sense that a guy who just came back and hasn't been 100% yet, and a guy who isn't back yet, won't have much trade value. That could easily change quite a bit by July 31, and in Prior's case, in the offseason.

[Joe_Cub]

Does anyone really think that Wood pitching badly is going to motivate Hendry to sign him again this off-season? He took a lot of flak for relying on two pitchers who are always hurt this season.

 

All the evaluators believe it makes sense to deal Wood before the deadline “because there’s no way you can justify picking up that option for $13.5 million for next year, based on how much he’s gotten hurt, his injury history. I respect him, but you can’t count on him. And it’s killed them to have both of those guys on their staff the last few years with so many questions. If they can get somebody to take a gamble on Wood and get something decent, it makes all the sense in the world for them to deal him.”

 

People Olney talked to also thought Wood would be best as a power middle reliever and that he's in decline.

[srbin84]

If the season is over, may as well get something for him.

[RockTheIvy]

Olney probably talked to a peanut vendor at Shea and a urinal cake inspector at Yankee Stadium. While I doubt that Wood and Prior's value is at an all time high, I gurantee you that there are teams that would be interested.

[TheDude]

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GMs around the league are suggesting Wood and Pior are worth only B prospects at best, some even said C prospects.

 

That is way less than anyone around here would predict, so here's hoping at least Wood puts on a good show the next couple months to raise his value.

 

Why do we want Wood to be of high value? If he's low value, then we can re-sign him much cheaper in the offseason since he's not going to get big bucks from these teams that view him so poorly. If he's got a high value, we just lose a high value guy to another team. He's got a NTC so he's not going anywhere.

 

Hendry gets nothing but flak for relying on oft injured players to stay healthy. So why would he re-sign Wood if his value was low?

 

You want Wood's value high so that you get as much for him as possible come the trade deadline. Players with NTCs have waived them in the past, so it is worth exploring and really pretty silly to dismiss outright.

[TheDude]

Since I am on an boycott of that network till they get rid of Joe M. care to summarize the artice for the rest of us?

 

Olney basically throws out several qoutes from GMs or scouts he talked to regarding Wood or Prior's perceived value at those respective levels. A few examples:

 

"I'd probably give no more than a C-level prospect for either," said an NL GM. "You have to look at their history, and look at their track record, and you'd have to be very cautious. Maybe you'd give a B prospect for one of them, but the team trading for him would have to be in a right situation. It'd have to be somebody in the pennant race -- like Omar [Minaya, GM of the Mets], or the Yankees or the Red Sox. It's such a tremendous gamble that you'd have to have the financial wherewithal to take that kind of gamble."

 

"I watched Wood the other night, and as a starter, I think he's a shell of what he once was," the evaluator said. "For Wood, because of his contract situation, I'd give up no more than a C-level prospect. He's declining, and he's got that big option.

 

"For Prior, I'd give a B or B-plus. His upside is still great for me, and if he works it out, you suddenly could have the anchor of your staff for the next two years. You'd be taking a leap of faith on Prior, but it might be worth it."

[goonys evil twin]

Since I am on an boycott of that network till they get rid of Joe M. care to summarize the artice for the rest of us?

 

Olney basically throws out several qoutes from GMs or scouts he talked to regarding Wood or Prior's perceived value at those respective levels. A few examples:

 

"I'd probably give no more than a C-level prospect for either," said an NL GM. "You have to look at their history, and look at their track record, and you'd have to be very cautious. Maybe you'd give a B prospect for one of them, but the team trading for him would have to be in a right situation. It'd have to be somebody in the pennant race -- like Omar [Minaya, GM of the Mets], or the Yankees or the Red Sox. It's such a tremendous gamble that you'd have to have the financial wherewithal to take that kind of gamble."

 

"I watched Wood the other night, and as a starter, I think he's a shell of what he once was," the evaluator said. "For Wood, because of his contract situation, I'd give up no more than a C-level prospect. He's declining, and he's got that big option.

 

"For Prior, I'd give a B or B-plus. His upside is still great for me, and if he works it out, you suddenly could have the anchor of your staff for the next two years. You'd be taking a leap of faith on Prior, but it might be worth it."

 

Sounds like nothing more than posturing by rival GMs.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Since I am on an boycott of that network till they get rid of Joe M. care to summarize the artice for the rest of us?

 

Olney basically throws out several qoutes from GMs or scouts he talked to regarding Wood or Prior's perceived value at those respective levels. A few examples:

 

"I'd probably give no more than a C-level prospect for either," said an NL GM. "You have to look at their history, and look at their track record, and you'd have to be very cautious. Maybe you'd give a B prospect for one of them, but the team trading for him would have to be in a right situation. It'd have to be somebody in the pennant race -- like Omar [Minaya, GM of the Mets], or the Yankees or the Red Sox. It's such a tremendous gamble that you'd have to have the financial wherewithal to take that kind of gamble."

 

"I watched Wood the other night, and as a starter, I think he's a shell of what he once was," the evaluator said. "For Wood, because of his contract situation, I'd give up no more than a C-level prospect. He's declining, and he's got that big option.

 

"For Prior, I'd give a B or B-plus. His upside is still great for me, and if he works it out, you suddenly could have the anchor of your staff for the next two years. You'd be taking a leap of faith on Prior, but it might be worth it."

 

Sounds like nothing more than posturing by rival GMs.

 

I agree. If the wild card race turns out like last season along with some close divisional races, there could be 15-20 teams trying for the playoffs with only 10-15 sellers. The amount of talent available could be slim and those teams trying to get that player who could make a difference will change their tune when that happens.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Somebody will overspend if either are available. Alas, we will likely sell low.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Somebody will overspend if either are available. Alas, we will likely sell low.

 

I suspect NEITHER will be available. And the statement that Wood/Prior are worth nothing but B prospects, maybe C prospects....is nothing but postering hoping to cause panic with Hendry.

 

If B/C prospects are the only kid of prospects Cubs could get for either, then keep Wood/Prior, since they are more valuable to the Cubs then to other teams.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Who thinks rival GM = Jim Bowden? Obviously Wood and Prior's value is at their lowest, which is why it doesn't make sense to deal either of them now, although it may make sense to deal Wood at the deadline.

[treebird]

Why are they talking about what an incredible risk it would be to trade for these guys if they're only giving up a c-level prospect and neither is signed past this season?

[RynoRules]

Why are they talking about what an incredible risk it would be to trade for these guys if they're only giving up a c-level prospect and neither is signed past this season?

 

good point. Either they are full of it or not very smart...or maybe both.

[SouthSideRyan]

If Olney believes Prior would only get a B prospect in return then he's dumber than I thought. And that's impressive.

[Jon]

If Olney believes Prior would only get a B prospect in return then he's dumber than I thought. And that's impressive.

Kudos to him. That's pretty impressive stupidity.

[Illini Iceman]

Since I am on an boycott of that network till they get rid of Joe M. care to summarize the artice for the rest of us?

 

Olney basically throws out several qoutes from GMs or scouts he talked to regarding Wood or Prior's perceived value at those respective levels. A few examples:

 

"I'd probably give no more than a C-level prospect for either," said an NL GM. "You have to look at their history, and look at their track record, and you'd have to be very cautious. Maybe you'd give a B prospect for one of them, but the team trading for him would have to be in a right situation. It'd have to be somebody in the pennant race -- like Omar [Minaya, GM of the Mets], or the Yankees or the Red Sox. It's such a tremendous gamble that you'd have to have the financial wherewithal to take that kind of gamble."

 

"I watched Wood the other night, and as a starter, I think he's a shell of what he once was," the evaluator said. "For Wood, because of his contract situation, I'd give up no more than a C-level prospect. He's declining, and he's got that big option.

 

"For Prior, I'd give a B or B-plus. His upside is still great for me, and if he works it out, you suddenly could have the anchor of your staff for the next two years. You'd be taking a leap of faith on Prior, but it might be worth it."

 

OMG! In just his third start after major shoulder surgery he looked like "shell of what he once was"? Stop the presses!

[Rooftop Bum]

Some team would probably take Wood for the bullpen. Assuming Kerry would not mind that? I doubt he would.

[Sammy Sofa]

I think both NY teams would love to have Wood in their starting rotation.