Poll: You vs. Dusty

[KW34]

I know many are given to hyperbole, but I am still curious.

[goonys evil twin]

I could outstrategize him, but the players would laugh me out of the dugout before I had a chance.

[OleMissCub]

I said "probably, but it would be close". I do have experience coaching at the High School and Collegiate level and I do realize that he's a Major League Baseball manager, so he obviously knows a thing or two that I don't. However....he does make some really really foolish mistakes at times; decisions that don't make a lick of sense.

[CubsBullsBears]

Maybe. I would value walks, I would sit Niefi AMAP, I'd let the young pitchers play thru their mistakes/struggles.

[Andy]

The Cubs would never let me, but I'd be twenty times the manager Dusty is and a majority of posters on this board would probably be better than I would.

[Derwood]

i would be cheaper at any rate....

[Ding Dong Johnson]

i would be cheaper at any rate....

 

A nickel over minimum wage.

[Derwood]

i would be cheaper at any rate....

 

A nickel over minimum wage.

 

US minimum wage or MLB minimum wage?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

i would be cheaper at any rate....

 

A nickel over minimum wage.

 

US minimum wage or MLB minimum wage?

 

Hmm. I would have settled for the US minimum wage, but now that you bring up the MLB minimum wage... :-k

[Derwood]

is there a dental plan (or is that what the toothpicks are)?

[Balsa]

is there a dental plan (or is that what the toothpicks are)?

 

Lisa needs braces!

[SouthSideRyan]

is there a dental plan (or is that what the toothpicks are)?

 

Lisa needs braces!

 

DENTAL PLAN!

 

And I said probably not, but not by a lot. Stat wise, and lineup construction, I'd run circles around him, but motivation, and controlling a clubhouse I wouldn't stand a chance.

[Omar]

Dusty has a huge advantage over all of us, and that is, he used to play baseball. It doesnt matter how good he was, because players like Ozzie or Tony La Russa have become great managers... But the fact is that he's played, and knows the game professionally.

 

Other than that, we'd be better managers in terms of line-ups, defense, pitching...

[ConstableRabbit]

I could outstrategize him, but the players would laugh me out of the dugout before I had a chance.

 

Don't give up Goony, didn't you see Little Big League?

[SouthSideRyan]

The horse's name is Friday.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I should know this, my uncle's a painter.

[Omar]

I should know this, my uncle's a painter.

 

I too have an uncle. Touche.

[Andy]

Dusty has a huge advantage over all of us, and that is, he used to play baseball. It doesnt matter how good he was, because players like Ozzie or Tony La Russa have become great managers... But the fact is that he's played, and knows the game professionally.

 

Other than that, we'd be better managers in terms of line-ups, defense, pitching...

I respectfully disagree. I don't see how playing the game does anything to make you more likely to be a better manager.

[daske17]

Dusty has a huge advantage over all of us, and that is, he used to play baseball. It doesnt matter how good he was, because players like Ozzie or Tony La Russa have become great managers... But the fact is that he's played, and knows the game professionally.

 

Other than that, we'd be better managers in terms of line-ups, defense, pitching...

I respectfully disagree. I don't see how playing the game does anything to make you more likely to be a better manager.

 

It gives you the respect of the players, which is more than any ability to pull together a lineup. It's the same as any job: if you don't have respect for your boss, would you do a good job?

 

The way the baseball world works you have to put in your time in the minors, in the front office, etc. for the major league level. It's an old-school mentality that wouldn't readily accept a manager who has no playing experience.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Dusty has a huge advantage over all of us, and that is, he used to play baseball. It doesnt matter how good he was, because players like Ozzie or Tony La Russa have become great managers... But the fact is that he's played, and knows the game professionally.

 

Other than that, we'd be better managers in terms of line-ups, defense, pitching...

I respectfully disagree. I don't see how playing the game does anything to make you more likely to be a better manager.

 

It gives you the respect of the players, which is more than any ability to pull together a lineup. It's the same as any job: if you don't have respect for your boss, would you do a good job?

 

The way the baseball world works you have to put in your time in the minors, in the front office, etc. for the major league level. It's an old-school mentality that wouldn't readily accept a manager who has no playing experience.

 

Absolutely

[Careless]

Dusty has a huge advantage over all of us, and that is, he used to play baseball. It doesnt matter how good he was, because players like Ozzie or Tony La Russa have become great managers... But the fact is that he's played, and knows the game professionally.

 

Other than that, we'd be better managers in terms of line-ups, defense, pitching...

I respectfully disagree. I don't see how playing the game does anything to make you more likely to be a better manager.

 

It gives you the respect of the players, which is more than any ability to pull together a lineup. It's the same as any job: if you don't have respect for your boss, would you do a good job?

 

The way the baseball world works you have to put in your time in the minors, in the front office, etc. for the major league level. It's an old-school mentality that wouldn't readily accept a manager who has no playing experience.

Of course. There are questions of "would you do what your boss told you to", but with baseball, doing a good job is generally straightforward. Get on base. Keep the opposition from getting on base.

[Roast]

I voted absoloutley.

 

I could fill out a lineup, handle pitchers, complete a double switch, and know what a walk is one hundred and fifty times better than Dusty ever could. The only problem i would have is being a 17 year old in the clubhouse with a group of 25 professional big leaguers who would probably respect me about as much as hitters respect glendon rusch.

[KW34]

I voted absoloutley.

 

I could fill out a lineup, handle pitchers, complete a double switch, and know what a walk is one hundred and fifty times better than Dusty ever could. The only problem i would have is being a 17 year old in the clubhouse with a group of 25 professional big leaguers who would probably respect me about as much as hitters respect glendon rusch.

 

That doesn't sound like an absolutely to me. I think the clubhouse plays a rather large part of the equation.

[KW34]

Dusty has a huge advantage over all of us, and that is, he used to play baseball. It doesnt matter how good he was, because players like Ozzie or Tony La Russa have become great managers... But the fact is that he's played, and knows the game professionally.

 

Other than that, we'd be better managers in terms of line-ups, defense, pitching...

I respectfully disagree. I don't see how playing the game does anything to make you more likely to be a better manager.

 

It gives you the respect of the players, which is more than any ability to pull together a lineup. It's the same as any job: if you don't have respect for your boss, would you do a good job?

 

The way the baseball world works you have to put in your time in the minors, in the front office, etc. for the major league level. It's an old-school mentality that wouldn't readily accept a manager who has no playing experience.

Of course. There are questions of "would you do what your boss told you to", but with baseball, doing a good job is generally straightforward. Get on base. Keep the opposition from getting on base.

I disagree with the straightforwardness of doing a good job. A guy with 40 homers and a .320 OBP will get a better contract than a guy at 20 HR/ .360 OBP. So I would think a player would do better for himself at the expense of the team by swinging for the fences every at-bat.

[Careless]

Dusty has a huge advantage over all of us, and that is, he used to play baseball. It doesnt matter how good he was, because players like Ozzie or Tony La Russa have become great managers... But the fact is that he's played, and knows the game professionally.

 

Other than that, we'd be better managers in terms of line-ups, defense, pitching...

I respectfully disagree. I don't see how playing the game does anything to make you more likely to be a better manager.

 

It gives you the respect of the players, which is more than any ability to pull together a lineup. It's the same as any job: if you don't have respect for your boss, would you do a good job?

 

The way the baseball world works you have to put in your time in the minors, in the front office, etc. for the major league level. It's an old-school mentality that wouldn't readily accept a manager who has no playing experience.

Of course. There are questions of "would you do what your boss told you to", but with baseball, doing a good job is generally straightforward. Get on base. Keep the opposition from getting on base.

I disagree with the straightforwardness of doing a good job. A guy with 40 homers and a .320 OBP will get a better contract than a guy at 20 HR/ .360 OBP. So I would think a player would do better for himself at the expense of the team by swinging for the fences every at-bat.

I submit that the negative differences between these two hypotheticals is less than the impact of batting neifi 600 times a season