.500 by the ASB

[srbin84]

Just some food for thought;

 

Through yesterday's game, the Cubs were averaging 3.62 runs per game, compared to the NL average of 4.78 runs per game. That means the Cubs score 75.6% as many runs as an average team in their league, and only five teams in the last 50 years have fared worse. (The '69 Padres, '02 Tigers, '65 Mets, '03 Tigers, and '63 Astros.) If you were to pick a team at random from the expansion/franchise shift era there's a 99.6% chance they would have a better offense than the 2006 Cubs.

 

I'm shocked the Cubs weren't one or more of those 5 teams that have already done it.

[Guest]

Just some food for thought;

 

Through yesterday's game, the Cubs were averaging 3.62 runs per game, compared to the NL average of 4.78 runs per game. That means the Cubs score 75.6% as many runs as an average team in their league, and only five teams in the last 50 years have fared worse. (The '69 Padres, '02 Tigers, '65 Mets, '03 Tigers, and '63 Astros.) If you were to pick a team at random from the expansion/franchise shift era there's a 99.6% chance they would have a better offense than the 2006 Cubs.

 

And that's BK, with your "Depressing Cubs Stat of the Day!"

Hey it's all in how you look at it. They're currently so bad that it's highly unlikely that they'll stay this pathetic all season. My guess is that they'll improve enough that our offense will eventually only rank below the bottom 10% or so instead of the bottom 0.5%. ;)

[Scott G. F.]

To steal a response from an old history teacher of mine: Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

 

Those that dwell in the past have no future.

 

I say the Cubs will be 3 games below .500 by June 1st.

 

I watch the game yesterday and actually like what I saw. It's not over.!!

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

To steal a response from an old history teacher of mine: Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

 

Those that dwell in the past have no future.

 

I say the Cubs will be 3 games below .500 by June 1st.

 

I watch the game yesterday and actually like what I saw. It's not over.!!

 

I think you skipped the Kool-Aid and went straight to the vodka.

[BeerHere]

To steal a response from an old history teacher of mine: Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

 

Those that dwell in the past have no future.

 

I say the Cubs will be 3 games below .500 by June 1st.

 

I watch the game yesterday and actually like what I saw. It's not over.!!

 

I love your optimism. However misguided it may be, but I respect your positive attitude. Don't let the haters bring you down.

 

Sincerely,

Hater

[BigbadB]

To steal a response from an old history teacher of mine: Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

 

Those that dwell in the past have no future.

 

I say the Cubs will be 3 games below .500 by June 1st.

 

I watch the game yesterday and actually like what I saw. It's not over.!!

 

I can understand not dwelling on '05. But, the games that have already been played this year cannot be considered "past" since they still count in the overall standings. Not only do they count in the overall standings, they count negatively towards anything they do the rest of the way.

 

Only the KC Royals have scored less runs than the Cubs. KC has scored 154 to the Cubs 156. The Cubs have played 2 more games than the Royals. So, unless KC gets shut out or only 1 run combined over those two games, the Cubs will officially be the worst team in the league at scoring runs.

 

And when you think about how bad KC is, how bad Pittsburgh is and how young Florida is, it doesn't get much more pathetic than this.

[Guest]

To steal a response from an old history teacher of mine: Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

Those that dwell in the past have no future.

All right, now that we've exchanged platitudes we can get serious about this. ;)

 

I don't consider analyzing the team's shortcomings of the past few weeks to be unnecessarily dwelling on failure. The purpose is to identify and address weaknesses so that the team will be better in the future, not to gratify some pathological masochism. I'd much rather acknowledge and attempt to correct mistakes than pretend they didn't happen and just hope everything turns out all right.

[Banedon]

I'm not even talking about the last 23 games. My question is why look?

 

Hold on a sec Scott. You were the one that brought up the record...

 

Perspective : the Cubs have played .500 ball the last 6 games.

 

So we can look at the past 6 games as long as it trends out nicely for the future (even if that turned out not to be the case)? But since looking back 23 games doesn't make things look as rosy, we're supposed to ignore it? Sorry buddy. Cubs-land is bleak right now. No need pretending that it's not. I'd be thrilled to be optimistic about this team, but right now there's very, very little to be optimistic about.

[Scott G. F.]

To steal a response from an old history teacher of mine: Those who do not learn from their mistakes are doomed to repeat them.

 

Those that dwell in the past have no future.

 

I say the Cubs will be 3 games below .500 by June 1st.

 

I watch the game yesterday and actually like what I saw. It's not over.!!

 

I can understand not dwelling on '05. But, the games that have already been played this year cannot be considered "past" since they still count in the overall standings. Not only do they count in the overall standings, they count negatively towards anything they do the rest of the way.

 

Only the KC Royals have scored less runs than the Cubs. KC has scored 154 to the Cubs 156. The Cubs have played 2 more games than the Royals. So, unless KC gets shut out or only 1 run combined over those two games, the Cubs will officially be the worst team in the league at scoring runs.

 

And when you think about how bad KC is, how bad Pittsburgh is and how young Florida is, it doesn't get much more pathetic than this.

 

Funny you bring up Florida. That's as good as any place to begin getting players hot.

 

Jacque Jones opposite field homer off a left handed pitcher. That might just be "lucky" or it might have lite a light on how to hit lefties.

 

This teams offense is going to get hot and wins will begin coming in.

 

Am I saying there going to the world series? No exactly. I am saying it's May 22 and this team has it's best baseball ahead of it.

 

The White Sox series showed the Cubs, to me IMO, the top team in baseball. It showed what a team does to win day in and day out. That has to rub off on a young team. You know a good team when you see it. It imprints and rubs off on you. What the Cubs do from here on in will reflect that.

 

One thing about the 'sucker punch'. M. Barrett was wrong. I believe everyone argees. But the Cubs team went into battle. They looked at the Sox during the fight and it became a us vs. them situation. That has to help this team.

 

Die hard people

Die hard!

[Scott G. F.]

I don't consider analyzing the team's shortcomings of the past few weeks to be unnecessarily dwelling on failure. The purpose is to identify and address weaknesses so that the team will be better in the future, not to gratify some pathological masochism. I'd much rather acknowledge and attempt to correct mistakes than pretend they didn't happen and just hope everything turns out all right.

 

I agree Hendry has some work to do. This team isn't perfect. But it's not as bad as people on this board make it out to be. Just getting one win in the south side was a good boost for this team. Pathetic? maybe, but you have to start somewhere.

[Captain Barnicle]

I think our problem is that we live in the freakin' future, not the freaking past. We assume that we are going to be a better team once this or that happens, and we are dismissive of current failures.

[CubinNY]

500 in the last 6 games is a net improvement of 0 from all the previousl games. Basically the Cub have been spining their wheels for a week getting nowhere fast.

 

Before the last 6 games the Cubs winning % was 419 after the last 6 gamws the Cubs winning % is 419.

[Scott G. F.]

500 in the last 6 games is a net improvement of 0 from all the previousl games. Basically the Cub have been spining their wheels for a week getting nowhere fast.

 

Before the last 6 games the Cubs winning % was 419 after the last 6 gamws the Cubs winning % is 419.

 

states simply. 3-3 is a whole lot better then 0-6. I see improvement. It might be small but I see it.

[Banedon]

500 in the last 6 games is a net improvement of 0 from all the previousl games. Basically the Cub have been spining their wheels for a week getting nowhere fast.

 

Before the last 6 games the Cubs winning % was 419 after the last 6 gamws the Cubs winning % is 419.

 

states simply. 3-3 is a whole lot better then 0-6. I see improvement. It might be small but I see it.

 

how about 1-3 in their last 4 games? You're picking arbitrary groups of games to make it seem like there's improvement...there's not.

[Soul]

500 in the last 6 games is a net improvement of 0 from all the previousl games. Basically the Cub have been spining their wheels for a week getting nowhere fast.

 

Before the last 6 games the Cubs winning % was 419 after the last 6 gamws the Cubs winning % is 419.

 

states simply. 3-3 is a whole lot better then 0-6. I see improvement. It might be small but I see it.

 

Well----they did have a great comeback win in a hostile ballpark yesterday. Sure it was sparked by a Uribe error, but the bats still needed to take advantage afterwards and they did.

 

That's definitely something to hang your hat on going into this week. Let's see what happens in Miami.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

500 in the last 6 games is a net improvement of 0 from all the previousl games. Basically the Cub have been spining their wheels for a week getting nowhere fast.

 

Before the last 6 games the Cubs winning % was 419 after the last 6 gamws the Cubs winning % is 419.

 

states simply. 3-3 is a whole lot better then 0-6. I see improvement. It might be small but I see it.

 

how about 1-3 in their last 4 games? You're picking arbitrary groups of games to make it seem like there's improvement...there's not.

 

They're undefeated in their last 1 game.

[imb]

500 in the last 6 games is a net improvement of 0 from all the previousl games. Basically the Cub have been spining their wheels for a week getting nowhere fast.

 

Before the last 6 games the Cubs winning % was 419 after the last 6 gamws the Cubs winning % is 419.

 

states simply. 3-3 is a whole lot better then 0-6. I see improvement. It might be small but I see it.

 

how about 1-3 in their last 4 games? You're picking arbitrary groups of games to make it seem like there's improvement...there's not.

 

They're undefeated in their last 1 game.

 

that means there's a 100% chance of them winning tonight

[Ding Dong Johnson]

500 in the last 6 games is a net improvement of 0 from all the previousl games. Basically the Cub have been spining their wheels for a week getting nowhere fast.

 

Before the last 6 games the Cubs winning % was 419 after the last 6 gamws the Cubs winning % is 419.

 

states simply. 3-3 is a whole lot better then 0-6. I see improvement. It might be small but I see it.

 

how about 1-3 in their last 4 games? You're picking arbitrary groups of games to make it seem like there's improvement...there's not.

 

They're undefeated in their last 1 game.

 

that means there's a 100% chance of them winning tonight

 

They'll have the division locked up by May 23rd.

[Scott G. F.]

500 in the last 6 games is a net improvement of 0 from all the previousl games. Basically the Cub have been spining their wheels for a week getting nowhere fast.

 

Before the last 6 games the Cubs winning % was 419 after the last 6 gamws the Cubs winning % is 419.

 

states simply. 3-3 is a whole lot better then 0-6. I see improvement. It might be small but I see it.

 

how about 1-3 in their last 4 games? You're picking arbitrary groups of games to make it seem like there's improvement...there's not.

 

I am picking numbers that show improvment. I just wish to look for improvment. Where as you're looking to prove a point which is lost on me.

 

It's hard to correct a team that had played so bad.

 

When all thing are not working it''s hard to plug the holes because there everywhere.

 

But I see the offense gaining momentum and confidence along with the pitching staff. The pen needs the starters to go further for them to become effective.

 

 

Putting runs on the borad early will be a definate sign this team is getting better.

 

I'll be watching to see if this is true. We'll see.

[imb]

so, basically, you're fooling yourself. Admirable.

[Banedon]

I am picking numbers that show improvment. I just wish to look for improvment. Where as you're looking to prove a point which is lost on me.

 

The reason I looked at the last 23 games is because it's a larger period of time that actually might have some usage in trending what might happen as we go on. As does our season record. The point that you admit that is lost on you, is that what you're doing isn't realistic. You're looking through rose colored glasses, and I don't see the point. Why delude yourself into thinking this is a good team?

 

I'm sorry, but I consider myself a realistic fan, not a cheerleader. Just because I'm a Cub fan doesn't mean I have to believe that they're good.

[Scott G. F.]

so, basically, you're fooling yourself. Admirable.

 

Not really. Just looking for what I consider a much better team to emerge from a couple of very difficult weeks.

 

I'm not seeing a team ready to phone it in.

[goonys evil twin]

I am picking numbers that show improvment. I just wish to look for improvment. Where as you're looking to prove a point which is lost on me.

 

It's hard to correct a team that had played so bad.

 

When all thing are not working it''s hard to plug the holes because there everywhere.

 

But I see the offense gaining momentum and confidence along with the pitching staff. The pen needs the starters to go further for them to become effective.

 

Putting runs on the borad early will be a definate sign this team is getting better.

 

I'll be watching to see if this is true. We'll see.

 

You're just grasping at straws to pretend things are getting better. The offense averaged 3.33 runs per game in the time you chose to discuss. That's down from the 3.70 average for the season. They were shut out in one game and scored just 1 in another. So 33% of the time they scored 0 or 1 runs, for the year that has happend 13 out of 43 games, 30% of the time.

[Scott G. F.]

Why delude yourself into thinking this is a good team?

 

I'm sorry, but I consider myself a realistic fan, not a cheerleader. Just because I'm a Cub fan doesn't mean I have to believe that they're good.

 

This team is improving and isn't as bad a people would make it out to be. Are they world beaters right now? No, far from it, but I see this team on the up swing. My sample size is smaller then yours. It's more difficult to see improvement in your sample size.

 

Banedon, you be any type of fan you'd like to be. I believe we're all pulling for the same team.

 

I just choose to see what the team can do today, tomorrow and next week, not what they haven't did yesterday or 2 weeks ago.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Why delude yourself into thinking this is a good team?

 

I'm sorry, but I consider myself a realistic fan, not a cheerleader. Just because I'm a Cub fan doesn't mean I have to believe that they're good.

 

This team is improving and isn't as bad a people would make it out to be. Are they world beaters right now? No, far from it, but I see this team on the up swing. My sample size is smaller then yours. It's more difficult to see improvement in your sample size.

 

Banedon, you be any type of fan you'd like to be. I believe we're all pulling for the same team.

 

I just choose to see what the team can do today, tomorrow and next week, not what they haven't did yesterday or 2 weeks ago.

 

You're fooling yourself with that statement. In the last 6 games, the Cubs beat a HORRIBLE team twice and had one really good inning against the White Sox. This team is bad, and unless personnel changes are made, they will continue to be bad. They lack talent. It isn't about drive, determination, hustle, or seeing "something" from the dugout. They are inferior to most teams in baseball right now. Your optimism is wonderful, but it is very misguided.