4/29 Cubs (Rusch) vs Beermakers (Davis) Round II 1:20 WGN

[cheapseats]

This Rusch situation is worse than the Estes situation was back in 2003.

 

At least we can replace Rusch rather than move to a 4-man rotation and wear down our pitchers.

 

Research shows that a 4-man rotation would have no adverse affects on pitchers' health. It's high pitch counts that contribute to injuries. I wouldn't be surprised to see Boston try a 4-man rotation at some point this season.

 

I don't think a 4 man rotation would work for the Cubs. Maddux is getting older and Marshall and Guzman are young. Wood and Prior will be on strict pitch counts when they come back. It may work for Boston but not for the Cubs.

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2633

 

According to the research, you're right about making sure young arms don't throw too many pitches. Throwing too many pitches per start helped end Doc Gooden's career, for example (well, that and cocaine).

 

But the research pretty definitively shows that a four-man rotation is no more rough on a pitching staff than a five-man. It's not that there's little difference in risk of injury; there's no observable difference.

 

There is a big injury risk when pitchers throw past the point of fatigue. For most pitchers, that's about 100 pitches, but for young ones it can be 90-95.

 

Dusty, unfortunately, is one of the worst managers in MLB as far as having his starters throw too many pitches. Kerry Wood and Mark Prior both threw way too many pitches per game in 2003 as did Big Z.

 

I really expect some forward-thinking team to try a four-man rotation and watch pitch counts closely. It could work for the Cubs if Dusty weren't the manager.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Jenkins singled to left field

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE FIFTH INNING

 

Clark walked

Davis grounded out to second, 4-1, Clark to second

Weeks struck out swinging

Hardy homered to left center field, Clark scored

Jenkins singled to left field

Lee flied out to right field

 

2 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base

 

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9     R  H E
Milwaukee     3 0 4 1 2            10 10 0 
CUBS          0 0 0 0               0  2 0 

 

Home runs: Milwaukee: Weeks (1), Fielder (4 & 5), Hall (4), Lee (9), Hardy (4)

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Rusch      2.7  6  7  7  3  0  4  81 
Aardsma    2.3  3  3  3  3  2  2  60 

[mhuber92211]

I like the SW commercial about California. Its happy

[Fred Hornkohl]

Hairston grounded out to the pitcher, 1-3

[Mark_R]

maybe this will work to Rusch's advantage. ALl the Brewers will come up and try to hit it farther then other one and most will K

 

Whoops.

[soccer10k]

This Rusch situation is worse than the Estes situation was back in 2003.

 

At least we can replace Rusch rather than move to a 4-man rotation and wear down our pitchers.

 

Research shows that a 4-man rotation would have no adverse affects on pitchers' health. It's high pitch counts that contribute to injuries. I wouldn't be surprised to see Boston try a 4-man rotation at some point this season.

 

I don't think a 4 man rotation would work for the Cubs. Maddux is getting older and Marshall and Guzman are young. Wood and Prior will be on strict pitch counts when they come back. It may work for Boston but not for the Cubs.

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2633

 

According to the research, you're right about making sure young arms don't throw too many pitches. Throwing too many pitches per start helped end Doc Gooden's career, for example (well, that and cocaine).

 

But the research pretty definitively shows that a four-man rotation is no more rough on a pitching staff than a five-man. It's not that there's little difference in risk of injury; there's no observable difference.

 

There is a big injury risk when pitchers throw past the point of fatigue. For most pitchers, that's about 100 pitches, but for young ones it can be 90-95.

 

Dusty, unfortunately, is one of the worst managers in MLB as far as having his starters throw too many pitches. Kerry Wood and Mark Prior both threw way too many pitches per game in 2003 as did Big Z.

 

I really expect some forward-thinking team to try a four-man rotation and watch pitch counts closely. It could work for the Cubs if Dusty weren't the manager.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you. My point was just that it wouldn't be a good fit for the Cubs considering the young pitchers we have and the pitchers coming back from injury.

[Roast]

I like the SW commercial about California. Its happy

 

hahaha

[Fred Hornkohl]

CUBS have given up 6 home runs in a game for the second time this year. The last time (Rusch's second start) was on 11 April in a 9-2 loss to Cincinnati.

 

Last year, the highest total HR allowed was 4, which was accomplised numerous times.

[badger1679666666]

When is woody coming back? Estimated May 12th?

[Fred Hornkohl]

Blanco grounded to third, safe at first on an error, E5

[soccer10k]

CUBS have given up 6 home runs in a game for the second time this year. The last time (Rusch's second start) was on 11 April in a 9-2 loss to Cincinnati.

 

Last year, the highest total HR allowed was 4, which was accomplised numerous times.

 

The only good thing is that Rusch did it both times. It's not like Z gave up a bunch of homers.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Restovich, pinch hitting for Aardsma, blooped a single to left field, Blanco to second

[Transmogrified Tiger]

you're so dreamy Juan

[soccer10k]

Restovich!!

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE FIFTH INNING

 

Hairston grounded out to the pitcher, 1-3

Blanco grounded to third, safe at first on an error, E5

Restovich, pinch hitting for Aardsma, blooped a single to left field, Blanco to second

Pierre grounded into a DP, 1-6-3, Restovich out at second

 

0 runs, 1 hits, 1 errors, 1 men left on base

 

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9     R  H E
Milwaukee     3 0 4 1 2            10 10 1 
CUBS          0 0 0 0 0             0  3 0 

 

Home runs: Milwaukee: Weeks (1), Fielder (4 & 5), Hall (4), Lee (9), Hardy (4)

[Roast]

Way to go pierre.

[soccer10k]

The bad news is this is now an official game. Chalk one up to the loss column.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ohman in to pitch for the CUBS

[Derwood]

this game is still on? I would have thought they would employ the mercy rule already.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Fielder popped out to third base

[soccer10k]

Oh Man is in for the Cubs. We actually got Prince Fielder out, it's a miracle.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Hall singled to center field

[Fred Hornkohl]

Miller singled to left field, Hall to second

[soccer10k]

This is turning into the Fred thread.