Ross Gload for Wuertz?

[CubbieRich]

Gload is a LH first baseman who is rotting on the bench of the White Sox. He is also a former Cub. Much higher BA than Restovich. I'd trade Michael Wuertz to the Sox, who need a RH reliever.

[USSoccer]

So would I. I don't think the Sox would...

[PortlandCubsFan]

I like that move. I would think Wuertz would get it done. If not, Aardsma probably would.

[bc2k]

Gload is a LH first baseman who is rotting on the bench of the White Sox. He is also a former Cub. Much higher BA than Restovich. I'd trade Michael Wuertz to the Sox, who need a RH reliever.

 

I think that's a reasonable trade suggestion. You're right about Gload "rotting"; he's played in only 4 games with a total of 4 PAs.

 

If Gload's on Williams's or Ozzie's bad list it could make Gload easily available.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Gload isn't very good. Definitely not worth giving up someone like Wuertz.

[Danny82]

Why do the Cubs want Gload again?

 

He's garbage.

[rawaction]

Yeah, Gload's not that good. Wuertz has shown he can be a very good reliever.

[PortlandCubsFan]

Gload's not a savior, but he would hit .280 with average power. Since 1998 (age 22), he's never hit below .284 when he's got over 200 at bats, at any level. His numbers last year at AAA and in 2004 with the White Sox suggest he can draw some walks. He hit .321, 7, 44, .854 OPS in 258 AB in '04.

 

I guess one question is whether Gload will be appreciably better than Mabry this year, given regular playing time. Since neither has ever been a regular (except for '96 when Mabry had a decent year for the Cards), it's pretty much guesswork. Looking at the numbers the past few years, I would start Gload before Mabry if I had both -- but it's close.

 

Could the Cubs get a better 1b/of for Wuertz (or Novoa or Aardsma)? I would much rather have Gload than Mientkiewicz. There are probably other comparable options out there, but I can't think of any.

 

To me, given the Cubs bullpen surplus, and assuming no better options, trading Wuertz is worth the potential improvement of Gload over Mabry (especially given the fact that Gload can play OF) -- if Mabry is struggling. If I were Hendry, I'd wait 2 weeks on pulling the trigger (on this or an equivalent move) and see if Mabry can hold his own.

[srbin84]

Gload's not a savior, but he would hit .280 with average power. Since 1998 (age 22), he's never hit below .284 when he's got over 200 at bats, at any level. His numbers last year at AAA and in 2004 with the White Sox suggest he can draw some walks. He hit .321, 7, 44, .854 OPS in 258 AB in '04.

 

I guess one question is whether Gload will be appreciably better than Mabry this year, given regular playing time. Since neither has ever been a regular (except for '96 when Mabry had a decent year for the Cards), it's pretty much guesswork. Looking at the numbers the past few years, I would start Gload before Mabry if I had both -- but it's close.

 

Could the Cubs get a better 1b/of for Wuertz (or Novoa or Aardsma)? I would much rather have Gload than Mientkiewicz. There are probably other comparable options out there, but I can't think of any.

 

To me, given the Cubs bullpen surplus, and assuming no better options, trading Wuertz is worth the potential improvement of Gload over Mabry (especially given the fact that Gload can play OF) -- if Mabry is struggling. If I were Hendry, I'd wait 2 weeks on pulling the trigger (on this or an equivalent move) and see if Mabry can hold his own.

 

I think I'd prefer trading one of those releivers to the Yankees for Pena and a mid-level prospect.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Gload's not a savior, but he would hit .280 with average power. Since 1998 (age 22), he's never hit below .284 when he's got over 200 at bats, at any level. His numbers last year at AAA and in 2004 with the White Sox suggest he can draw some walks. He hit .321, 7, 44, .854 OPS in 258 AB in '04.

 

I guess one question is whether Gload will be appreciably better than Mabry this year, given regular playing time. Since neither has ever been a regular (except for '96 when Mabry had a decent year for the Cards), it's pretty much guesswork. Looking at the numbers the past few years, I would start Gload before Mabry if I had both -- but it's close.

 

Could the Cubs get a better 1b/of for Wuertz (or Novoa or Aardsma)? I would much rather have Gload than Mientkiewicz. There are probably other comparable options out there, but I can't think of any.

 

To me, given the Cubs bullpen surplus, and assuming no better options, trading Wuertz is worth the potential improvement of Gload over Mabry (especially given the fact that Gload can play OF) -- if Mabry is struggling. If I were Hendry, I'd wait 2 weeks on pulling the trigger (on this or an equivalent move) and see if Mabry can hold his own.

 

I think I'd prefer trading one of those releivers to the Yankees for Pena and a mid-level prospect.

 

Agree. I prefer NOT to give the White Sox a serviceable relieve,r for a not-so-serviceable backup 1st baseman, when we already have somebody in the system, who can do the same thing, (Hoffpauir).

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'd trade Freddy Bynum for Ross Gload. Other than that, I'm done.

[Big Z 38]

No. I'd never make that trade. Wuertz is better than Gload and Sox fans will shove it down our throats in a few years when the trade turns out to be Garland-Karchner 2.0

[NorthsideAvenger]

No. I'd never make that trade. Wuertz is better than Gload and Sox fans will shove it down our throats in a few years when the trade turns out to be Garland-Karchner 2.0

 

Garland is back to being the same crappy pitcher he also was. 2005 was a FLUKE for Garland, and the start to the 2006 season, I believe proves it.

The Garland/Karchner trade in hindsight, was really a young crappy pitcher, for an older crappy pitcher. No loss.

 

Losing Wuertz to the Sox would pissed me off, more then losing Garland.

[Big Z 38]

I agree. But Garland is healthy, and can still eat 200 innings a year, and who knows what he'd learn w/ Mad Dog the last 3 years

[Hosak8]

I agree. But Garland is healthy, and can still eat 200 innings a year, and who knows what he'd learn w/ Mad Dog the last 3 years

 

Why do people think that Greg Maddux teaches young pitchers anything? He was little to no help to Bruce Chen, Jason Marquis, or any other young Braves pitchers in the late 90's. Nor has he shown to be much help with any of our current younger pitchers. So, why would he have made any difference to Garland?

 

Not trying to pick on you, but I sincerely don't understand this idea that Maddux makes any younger pitchers better for having him around. If he did, Atlanta would have never let him go.

[Big Z 38]

Well BigZ has matured a lot since Mad Dog came.

[Hosak8]

Natural progression of a talented young arm.

 

Greg Maddux is no pitching coach/mentor. He's a good pitcher, sure. However, this idea that he somehow helps younger pitchers is merely a mirage. Atlanta never had a single young pitcher truly develop because of Maddux's presence (no way you can count Smoltz), and had several "can't miss" guys (like Chen and Marquis) who never came close to living up to the hype).

 

NOw that he's in Chicago, can you point to anyone? Mitre? No. Wellemeyer? No. ANyone? No.

 

I just don't see what he gets credit for...

[Big Z 38]

Whatever. I still think he should be our pitching coach when he retires

[RynoRules]

Well BigZ has matured a lot since Mad Dog came.

 

He has? How do you define maturity?

[NCCubFan]

He has? How do you define maturity?

He hasn't yet been ejected this year. :D

[bc2k]

No. I'd never make that trade. Wuertz is better than Gload and Sox fans will shove it down our throats in a few years when the trade turns out to be Garland-Karchner 2.0

 

Garland is back to being the same crappy pitcher he also was. 2005 was a FLUKE for Garland, and the start to the 2006 season, I believe proves it.

The Garland/Karchner trade in hindsight, was really a young crappy pitcher, for an older crappy pitcher. No loss.

 

Losing Wuertz to the Sox would pissed me off, more then losing Garland.

 

:shock:

[NorthsideAvenger]

Whatever. I still think he should be our pitching coach when he retires

 

I prefer his brother Mike, who is ALREADY an outstanding pitching coach. And history says...GREAT players don't make great coaches.

[NorthsideAvenger]

No. I'd never make that trade. Wuertz is better than Gload and Sox fans will shove it down our throats in a few years when the trade turns out to be Garland-Karchner 2.0

 

Garland is back to being the same crappy pitcher he also was. 2005 was a FLUKE for Garland, and the start to the 2006 season, I believe proves it.

The Garland/Karchner trade in hindsight, was really a young crappy pitcher, for an older crappy pitcher. No loss.

 

Losing Wuertz to the Sox would pissed me off, more then losing Garland.

 

:shock:

 

Why are you shocked?

 

Garland had ONE fluke season in his career, and this yr, he's back to being the CRAPPY pitcher he's always been, just more expensive. Wuertz can be a serviceable middle relief guy. So losing Wuertz would hurt more then losing Garland.