Anyone know how Korey has played this spring

[CUBZ99]

Booing is an emotional reaction. No one thinks it accomplishes anything.

 

It's an emotional reaction when you boo a bad play that just happened. It's a premeditated act of immaturity when you boo the name being announced in the starting lineup, or as the player strides to the plate or after every move me makes.

 

Sorry, still not buying your "poor Corey" argument. As a major league player he has got to take the good with the bad. Booing a player who is performing poorly is no worse than getting on a message board and complaining constantly about Dusty, Neifi, or Rusch or no more immature than calling a player "slappy" or "gremlin" etc. In fact, booing a player at a game probably accomplishes more, as Corey was finally run out of town. Neifi and Glendon are still here.

[rocket]

Did you guys cheer Todd Hundley and Lenny Harris too?

 

i didn't go out of my way to boo them before they even did anything on the field.

 

So you never booed them before an AB?

 

Correct

[goonys evil twin]

Booing is an emotional reaction. No one thinks it accomplishes anything.

 

It's an emotional reaction when you boo a bad play that just happened. It's a premeditated act of immaturity when you boo the name being announced in the starting lineup, or as the player strides to the plate or after every move me makes.

 

Sorry, still not buying your "poor Corey" argument. As a major league player he has got to take the good with the bad. Booing a player who is performing poorly is no worse than getting on a message board and complaining constantly about Dusty, Neifi, or Rusch or no more immature than calling a player "slappy" or "gremlin" etc. In fact, booing a player at a game probably accomplishes more, as Corey was finally run out of town. Neifi and Glendon are still here.

 

I'm not making a "poor Corey" argument. I'm making a "it's stupid to boo your players as they come up to the plate" argument.

[YearofDaCubs]

Booing is an emotional reaction. No one thinks it accomplishes anything.

 

It's an emotional reaction when you boo a bad play that just happened. It's a premeditated act of immaturity when you boo the name being announced in the starting lineup, or as the player strides to the plate or after every move me makes.

 

Sorry, still not buying your "poor Corey" argument. As a major league player he has got to take the good with the bad. Booing a player who is performing poorly is no worse than getting on a message board and complaining constantly about Dusty, Neifi, or Rusch or no more immature than calling a player "slappy" or "gremlin" etc. In fact, booing a player at a game probably accomplishes more, as Corey was finally run out of town. Neifi and Glendon are still here.

You might be on to something here. So if we boo MacPhail,Hendry,Baker, Rusch and Neifi they will be gone? If so, I might just turn the corner and start booing.

[srbin84]

Well, I think what it accomplishes is that it lets management know the fans don't want the guy starting or even on the roster if possible. Hundley, Harris, Hawkins and Patterson are all gone now. When you know the player is not going to turn things around and you don't like paying to see him play, you boo him. Just like if you are eating at a restaurant and your meal has hair on it, you don't just eat around it, you complain about it and get something different.

[goonys evil twin]

Well, I think what it accomplishes is that it lets management know the fans don't want the guy starting or even on the roster if possible. Hundley, Harris, Hawkins and Patterson are all gone now. When you know the player is not going to turn things around and you don't like paying to see him play, you boo him. Just like if you are eating at a restaurant and your meal has hair on it, you don't just eat around it, you complain about it and get something different.

 

Yeah, that's what we needs, crowds determining personel decisions. Augie! Augie! Augie!

[Soul]

I may have muttered something to the effect of "great, here comes another easy K" when Hundley strode to the plate, but no never booing 8)

 

Kind of the same with Corey----but I was more positive about him because he was young, and I always rememberd that half-season in '03 when he was a damn fine player. I would be like "come on Corey, be selective this time" rather than "oh great another easy K"

 

But never booing before a player even got to the plate.

 

That said, I defend the fans' right to boo----even if they are being stupid and immature.

[srbin84]

Well, I think what it accomplishes is that it lets management know the fans don't want the guy starting or even on the roster if possible. Hundley, Harris, Hawkins and Patterson are all gone now. When you know the player is not going to turn things around and you don't like paying to see him play, you boo him. Just like if you are eating at a restaurant and your meal has hair on it, you don't just eat around it, you complain about it and get something different.

 

Yeah, that's what we needs, crowds determining personel decisions. Augie! Augie! Augie!

 

I didn't imply the crowds should always determine personel decisions, but they should have some influence when a situation deteriates like with Hundley, Harris, Hawkins and Patterson. Even if they don't, in situations like with those players, it's all you can do. You can't help yourself after watching them fail game after game for years.

 

EDIT: And by the way, that season Augie got called up, he was probably the best SS on the team.

[goonys evil twin]

You can't help yourself after watching them fail game after game for years.

 

That's odd, because most people can.

[srbin84]

You can't help yourself after watching them fail game after game for years.

 

That's odd, because most people can.

 

Then I should get my ears checked because I remember many a Hundley and Patterson AB precluded and followed by a roar of boos.

[Chocolate Milk]

That said, I defend the fans' right to boo----even if they are being stupid and immature.

 

That's pretty much the way I feel. It doesn't bother me at all. I don't really understand why everyone gets all worked up about it.

[UBlink]

You can't help yourself after watching them fail game after game for years.

 

That's odd, because most people can.

 

Then I should get my ears checked because I remember many a Hundley and Patterson AB precluded and followed by a roar of boos.

 

You saw him called back to the dugout because the fans were booing?

[YearofDaCubs]

Honestly who cares who booed corey and who didn't. He was a HUGE bust for us, never lived up to the hype and was probably poorly coached on top of it. He's a goner now so who cares what happens to him since he won't be back.

[abuck1220]

There have been no rumors to suggest it, but if the Orioles do opt to carry Markakis, they could always choose to release Patterson this week. Since he was an arbitration-eligible player, his $2.8 million salary wasn’t guaranteed. If he’s cut before Wednesday, the Orioles would owe him $700,000.

[Chocolate Milk]

There have been no rumors to suggest it, but if the Orioles do opt to carry Markakis, they could always choose to release Patterson this week. Since he was an arbitration-eligible player, his $2.8 million salary wasn’t guaranteed. If he’s cut before Wednesday, the Orioles would owe him $700,000.

 

Yikes.

[goonys evil twin]

You can't help yourself after watching them fail game after game for years.

 

That's odd, because most people can.

 

Then I should get my ears checked because I remember many a Hundley and Patterson AB precluded and followed by a roar of boos.

 

A roar does not mean everybody is taking part. I was at a Hundley game when it was at its peak, and while it was a loud roar, I'd say about 1 in 5 was taking part in the booing. I never attended a home game when the Patterson booing was at its worst, but I did see a couple games in Wrigley last year when there was some mild booing before he came to the plate.

[imb]

pretty sure he just sucks at the baseball

[MPrior]

Sorry, still not buying your "poor Corey" argument. As a major league player he has got to take the good with the bad. Booing a player who is performing poorly is no worse than getting on a message board and complaining constantly about Dusty, Neifi, or Rusch or no more immature than calling a player "slappy" or "gremlin" etc. In fact, booing a player at a game probably accomplishes more, as Corey was finally run out of town. Neifi and Glendon are still here.

 

Um, this isn't true. A message board is intended as place for the exchange of ideas. If Corey or Dusty or Neifi don't want to hear what we're saying about them, then they don't have to come read the message board. They have no choice about hearing the boos, which, if they accomplish anything, as you claim, it's to belittle the player and shatter their confidence. EXACTLY what you want to do to them immediately before they have to perform. That's perfect.

[Soul]

You can't help yourself after watching them fail game after game for years.

 

That's odd, because most people can.

 

Then I should get my ears checked because I remember many a Hundley and Patterson AB precluded and followed by a roar of boos.

 

A roar does not mean everybody is taking part. I was at a Hundley game when it was at its peak, and while it was a loud roar, I'd say about 1 in 5 was taking part in the booing. I never attended a home game when the Patterson booing was at its worst, but I did see a couple games in Wrigley last year when there was some mild booing before he came to the plate.

 

The old "chorus of boos."

 

It usually is a minority of fans. Still: why do so many get upset when a poorly performing player is booed? Fans pay their $$$$, it's not like they are throwing objects at the guy (if so, then throw them in jail). It's only a boo. Sure, sometimes it's stupid. People are generally stupid at sports events anyway.

 

Is it that some people think booing a player hurts his chances at improving? I get booed at work---figuratively speaking. We all do. It only makes the cheers that much more sweet :)

[goonys evil twin]

why do so many get upset when a poorly performing player is booed? Fans pay their $$$$, it's not like they are throwing objects at the guy (if so, then throw them in jail). It's only a boo. Sure, sometimes it's stupid. People are generally stupid at sports events anyway.

 

Is it that some people think booing a player hurts his chances at improving? I get booed at work---figuratively speaking. We all do. It only makes the cheers that much more sweet :)

 

You have the right to boo. You have the right to do a lot of things. Just because you have the right to do something doesn't mean you should. And just because lots of people are complete clowns at games doesn't mean anybody should stop from pointing out their ignorance.

 

I don't get that upset when players are booed. I get annoyed when people talk about how it's their right and how they are accomplishing something by booing. When I'm at a game where the home player is booed, usually I just laugh at the immature fans who can't get some perspective. The best is going to a Yankees game and hearing guys rip ARod to shreds, then later applaud like mad when he does well.

 

I once sat a row in front of one of the most ignorant jerks to ever attend a baseball game. It was the Diaz HR game that pretty much ended the Cubs 2004 season. This complete moron yelled and screamed and insulted his hometown Mets, and went on and on about how much money he paid to this team and how much he deserved the right to act like the dirtbag he was. A truly classless piece of trash, who was probably related to the "worst bracket ever" guy from a different thread. He hated everybody and everything, was vulgar, and didn't care one iota if he was negatively affecting other people who just wanted to enjoy the game. And I'm pretty sure he was sober too. Anyway, after the Diaz HR, of course, he loves his Mets and can't get enough of them.

 

I think of people who boo their own players at games as people related to this guy. Sure, most of them don't take it nearly as far. But some of them do, and the others are just enablers to the extremists.

 

Sure you have the right to boo. Just like that Mets fan had the right to be a jerk. But having the right doesn't justifying taking advantage of that right.

[Derwood]

I'm guessing that most booing is started by a small group of fans and then mimicked by the drunken masses who really aren't paying attention to the game to start with.

[CUBZ99]

Sorry, still not buying your "poor Corey" argument. As a major league player he has got to take the good with the bad. Booing a player who is performing poorly is no worse than getting on a message board and complaining constantly about Dusty, Neifi, or Rusch or no more immature than calling a player "slappy" or "gremlin" etc. In fact, booing a player at a game probably accomplishes more, as Corey was finally run out of town. Neifi and Glendon are still here.

 

Um, this isn't true. A message board is intended as place for the exchange of ideas. If Corey or Dusty or Neifi don't want to hear what we're saying about them, then they don't have to come read the message board. They have no choice about hearing the boos, which, if they accomplish anything, as you claim, it's to belittle the player and shatter their confidence. EXACTLY what you want to do to them immediately before they have to perform. That's perfect.

 

So it is better to bash somebody behind their back, as long as you fake like you like them in their face (at the game)?

 

Once again, players in all sports get booed and cheered for all of the time, it all comes with their job. I hope that your not suggesting now that Corey's poor performace was based on fans that booed him. Corey was horrible prior to the booing, so I think you will have a hard time convincing me that by being booed it somehow made him perform worse.

 

Corey is a big boy, and if being booed affected him to the point where he collapsed he was never going to make it in the Major Leagues in the first place.

[biittner77]

There have been no rumors to suggest it, but if the Orioles do opt to carry Markakis, they could always choose to release Patterson this week. Since he was an arbitration-eligible player, his $2.8 million salary wasn’t guaranteed. If he’s cut before Wednesday, the Orioles would owe him $700,000.

 

Is this from the Baltimore Sun? A friend of mine told me this morning that the O's aren't happy with Patterson and might try to move him. If true I'm not sure how much of this is a PR move by the O's to generate some buzz/ give them a home grown rising star- or at least the hope of one.

[Outshined_One]

I will admit to booing Todd Hundley, but only after he started to become a complete jerk towards the fans. Flipping the bird to the Wrigley faithful after hitting a home run isn't going to endear you to the fans, ya know? He's pretty much the only Cub I ever booed. Hawkins made me sit in dumbfounded shock on a number of occasions and Corey had me slapping my forehead in disgust on a number of occasions, but I can't ever recall booing them.

 

However, there are a number of occasions I've booed the opposing team and umpires. That's pretty much another category altogether, in my opinion.

[wvcbxl]

A friend of mine told me this morning that the O's aren't happy with Patterson and might try to move him.

 

If that's true, his unspectacular spring may have something to do with it.