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There is an article on cubs.com saying they wont release the info on the MRI until saturday, which seems kind of absurd.

 

"We don't know what it is -- we have to find out what it is," Baker said. "We'll find out Saturday."

 

if they expect to find damage it makes sense to release the news on the weekend of the first round of the NCAA's. it's helps the story get less exposure than if they release it during the week.

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The MRI was just done, so the results cannot be known until later today.

 

Was it an open-view MRI or the traditional tube? Was it with contrast or without? While none of this information is relevant, you still don't want Sullivan scooping you, do you?

 

While off topic, Bruce, can give me your assessment of Pie's spring so far? Thanks in advance if possible.

 

It was an MRI arthrogram, during which dye is injected into the shoulder. Beyond that, I don't know anything else. It is possible they'll announce something today. The medical and training staff will meet with Yocum Saturday to plan a course of action from here.

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There is an article on cubs.com saying they wont release the info on the MRI until saturday, which seems kind of absurd.

 

"We don't know what it is -- we have to find out what it is," Baker said. "We'll find out Saturday."

 

if they expect to find damage it makes sense to release the news on the weekend of the first round of the NCAA's. it's helps the story get less exposure than if they release it during the week.

That quote from Baker is about the "structured program" that they'd work out with Dr. Yocum, not about the MRI results.

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So..in other words, Prior is hypersensitive to pain.

 

...or paranoid.

 

I'm just happy it's fairly minor.

I'm not sure it's entirely fair to say either when both he and Wood have been told repeatedly to let the Cubs know about everything that doesn't feel normal. That's how the Cubs have conditioned him. He's only doing what they told him.

 

no no. i think he is justifiably paranoid in a sense. Prior gets criticized for not pitching through pain and for not telling the coaches that he is truly injured. Maybe he just doesn't know his body that well. I'd rather have him get a little scared, tell someone and miss a few days rather than pitch through an injury, make it worse and miss significant time.

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Following a visit to Dr. Lewis Yocum, Mark Prior's injury is being called a posterior shoulder strain. He'll undergo an MRI today to attempt to confirm the diagnosis.

Prior was supposed to undergo the MRI yesterday, but he had personal business to attend to in San Diego. The Cubs say they are encouraged by the initial diagnosis. "For me, I'm very pleased," trainer Mark O'Neal said. "There's extremely bad news that could've come out of it. This is a posterior shoulder strain, and we'll deal with it like you would a hamstring strain. Unfortunately, it's in the shoulder. For us, it's pretty good news." Obviously, there's still very good reason to be concerned. The Cubs' ability to understate injuries is becoming legendary. Mar. 16 - 2:11 pm et

 

Bwahahahaha!

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Report on the score says results came back negative, no damage to the shoulder, just a strain. No timetable given as to how long this might keep him out.
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Report on the score says results came back negative, no damage to the shoulder, just a strain. No timetable given as to how long this might keep him out.

Good.

 

no no. i think he is justifiably paranoid in a sense. Prior gets criticized for not pitching through pain and for not telling the coaches that he is truly injured. Maybe he just doesn't know his body that well. I'd rather have him get a little scared, tell someone and miss a few days rather than pitch through an injury, make it worse and miss significant time.

Well, that could be. I'm not sure how well that fits in this instance, though. From what I've read and judging by the diagnosis, what he and the Cubs did with this seem pretty reasonable. If it's a strain, you don't want him to try to pitch through it, so it's probably not that he was just being overly cautious.

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Following a visit to Dr. Lewis Yocum, Mark Prior's injury is being called a posterior shoulder strain. He'll undergo an MRI today to attempt to confirm the diagnosis.

Prior was supposed to undergo the MRI yesterday, but he had personal business to attend to in San Diego. The Cubs say they are encouraged by the initial diagnosis. "For me, I'm very pleased," trainer Mark O'Neal said. "There's extremely bad news that could've come out of it. This is a posterior shoulder strain, and we'll deal with it like you would a hamstring strain. Unfortunately, it's in the shoulder. For us, it's pretty good news." Obviously, there's still very good reason to be concerned. The Cubs' ability to understate injuries is becoming legendary. Mar. 16 - 2:11 pm et

 

Bwahahahaha!

 

The Tribune Company must love the credibility chasm here.

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Following a visit to Dr. Lewis Yocum, Mark Prior's injury is being called a posterior shoulder strain. He'll undergo an MRI today to attempt to confirm the diagnosis.

Prior was supposed to undergo the MRI yesterday, but he had personal business to attend to in San Diego. The Cubs say they are encouraged by the initial diagnosis. "For me, I'm very pleased," trainer Mark O'Neal said. "There's extremely bad news that could've come out of it. This is a posterior shoulder strain, and we'll deal with it like you would a hamstring strain. Unfortunately, it's in the shoulder. For us, it's pretty good news." Obviously, there's still very good reason to be concerned. The Cubs' ability to understate injuries is becoming legendary. Mar. 16 - 2:11 pm et

 

Bwahahahaha!

 

The Tribune Company must love the credibility chasm here.

 

There has got to be some sort of Sarbanes-Oxley disclosure issue going on here that will force them to sell.

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The Score is reporting that Prior will be shut down for the next 7-10 days.

 

Understandable. If he starts throwing again March 26, then he can probably have a simulated game or 2 by April 7/8. Maybe get him 3 minor league outings (1 in Iowa, 2 on the road in warmer climates Round Rock/Alabama), and maybe you get him into a major league game by April 24/26.

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What the hell is wrong with mark prior and kerry wood's muscles. Always getting strained, tendonitis, sore, inflammed. . .

 

I hope we don't have either of these 2 picthers next year. And if we atleast keep Prior. We get some top FA pitching and have #1, #2, #3, #4, and #5 covered. And count Prior as a bonus #2 if he CAN pitch. .

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What the hell is wrong with mark prior and kerry wood's muscles. Always getting strained, tendonitis, sore, inflammed. . .

 

I hope we don't have either of these 2 picthers next year. And if we atleast keep Prior. We get some top FA pitching and have #1, #2, #3, #4, and #5 covered. And count Prior as a bonus #2 if he CAN pitch. .

 

The Cubs have rights to Prior through 2008 so barring a trade he will be here. I hope he gets a better handle on his pain tolerance because this is the second time that he has complained of serious (worth checking out on MRI) pain only to have the results come back negative. I'm not sure he knows the difference between injury and the regular discomfort that some, if not all, pitchers feel.

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I already read that. Basically, Prior is a wuss. And they are treating him like a little girl. He's sore so there's gonna baby, and pamper him.

Prior said he felt "pain" around his rotator cuff, the Cubs sent him to a specialist and decided to have an MRI done, he was diagnosed with a moderate strain in the shoulder, and they're shutting him down for 7-10 days.

 

This isn't normal soreness. If it was, they wouldn't be shutting him down for a week or more. How are they babying him? And why is he a wuss for reporting pain in his throwing shoulder?

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Yeah, I don't understand the sentiments towards Prior. Without his pitching arm, he has no baseball career. Does he simply throw caution to the wind and pitch while injured? I'm sure guys have done that while worrying about winning a starting job, only to find that their careers are over because they didn't take preemptive measures.
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Yeah, I don't understand the sentiments towards Prior. Without his pitching arm, he has no baseball career. Does he simply throw caution to the wind and pitch while injured? I'm sure guys have done that while worrying about winning a starting job, only to find that their careers are over because they didn't take preemptive measures.

 

whatever it takes to absolve the cubs organization from any wrongdoing here.

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I LOVE CONTRADICTING INFORMATION!! :roll:

 

Cubs.com wrote:

Cubs athletic trainer Mark O'Neal said Prior will be shut down from throwing for seven to 10 days.

 

Cubs.com also wrote:

With Mark Prior sidelined indefinitely, the Chicago Cubs are auditioning for another starter.

 

So, which is it? There's a huge difference between 7 to 10 days and indefinitely.

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I think that's only slightly contradictory. Even though he's being shut down from throwing for 7 to 10 days, there is no way to know now whether the inflammation will have cleared up by then, whether throwing will reaggravate or how far behind this puts him to actually pitch in a real game.
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Yeah, I don't understand the sentiments towards Prior. Without his pitching arm, he has no baseball career. Does he simply throw caution to the wind and pitch while injured? I'm sure guys have done that while worrying about winning a starting job, only to find that their careers are over because they didn't take preemptive measures.

 

There's a fine line between being injured and having pain or discomfort. My point is, I'm not sure that he knows the difference between the two.

There are pitchers with long careers that deal with ongoing pain. I'm trying not to be cynical however, I do recall Prior saying last year that he's going to have to learn to pitch through pain. I don't see

any change.

 

Here we go again

 

I think he needs to do more in the offseason to get himself ready to pitch.

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I already read that. Basically, Prior is a wuss. And they are treating him like a little girl. He's sore so there's gonna baby, and pamper him.

 

Or a little boy

 

Little boys are tough. They eat dirt. . . . well, at least mine does :)

 

LOL, sure they are...

 

psst, little girls eat dirt too. :lol:

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I think he needs to do more in the offseason to get himself ready to pitch.

And that's where the bad case of pharyngitis comes in. Prior wasn't in ideal shape and his arm wasn't really ready when he reported to spring training.

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I think he needs to do more in the offseason to get himself ready to pitch.

And that's where the bad case of pharyngitis comes in. Prior wasn't in ideal shape and his arm wasn't really ready when he reported to spring training.

 

Granted, but this isn't the first time he's had problems in Spring Training.

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