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I'm just hoping to get some help from people to explain to me why Hendry still won't trade Pie. We traded two solid pitching prospects for Pierre to play center so we have to assume Hendry sees him as more than a one year rental. We signed Jacque Jones for 3 years so we are stuck playing him. Then we have Murton in Left. I just don't see where Pie fits in. Which leads me to believe that we should now be trading Pie. The only logic I see in keeping Pie is that maybe Hendry thinks that eventually Murton and Jones will platoon.

 

Anyone else got an explanation for me? This refusual is now making me mad because it doesn't seem logical to me. We could be using Pie to land Tejada and not forcing us to add Prior into the deal.

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I think he's saving his Pie for christmas. He's probably just gonna sit around all day and eat it.
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I think he's saving his Pie for christmas. He's probably just gonna sit around all day and eat it.

 

By the looks of him I'd say he doesn't know how to save pie for another day. He probably eats it and then buys another.

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I think he's saving his Pie for christmas. He's probably just gonna sit around all day and eat it.

 

By the looks of him I'd say he doesn't know how to save pie for another day. He probably eats it and then buys another.

 

I bet he's had 4 or 5 already today.

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He might as well trade Pie now, because he might be working for the Pirates by the time Pie is ready for the big show. Why the H wouldn't he want to trade Pie????????????????
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I'm just hoping to get some help from people to explain to me why Hendry still won't trade Pie. We traded two solid pitching prospects for Pierre to play center so we have to assume Hendry sees him as more than a one year rental. We signed Jacque Jones for 3 years so we are stuck playing him. Then we have Murton in Left. I just don't see where Pie fits in. Which leads me to believe that we should now be trading Pie. The only logic I see in keeping Pie is that maybe Hendry thinks that eventually Murton and Jones will platoon.

 

Anyone else got an explanation for me? This refusual is now making me mad because it doesn't seem logical to me. We could be using Pie to land Tejada and not forcing us to add Prior into the deal.

 

Jacque Jones will be traded next winter if Pie is ready. He should be pretty tradeable at $10 million over 2 years, since 3 teams offered him more than $15 million over 3 years.

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I'm glad Hendry appears to be unwilling to trade their best prospect by a significant margin. I assume most GMs would do likewise.

Well, I am not glad if it means Prior is a goner though.

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I'm just hoping to get some help from people to explain to me why Hendry still won't trade Pie. We traded two solid pitching prospects for Pierre to play center so we have to assume Hendry sees him as more than a one year rental. We signed Jacque Jones for 3 years so we are stuck playing him. Then we have Murton in Left. I just don't see where Pie fits in. Which leads me to believe that we should now be trading Pie. The only logic I see in keeping Pie is that maybe Hendry thinks that eventually Murton and Jones will platoon.

 

Anyone else got an explanation for me? This refusual is now making me mad because it doesn't seem logical to me. We could be using Pie to land Tejada and not forcing us to add Prior into the deal.

 

Maybe because the last good position playing prospect the Cubs have developed is Mark Grace. As pathetic as that is, Pie is our best chance at changing this.

 

Also, if you think that Baltimore would take Pie instead of Prior than you are f#*$*# nuts. They want pitching, and if they decide to trade Tejeda, they are going to get it from somebody. If anything, they are going to want both Prior and Pie. I am not saying that Hendry would make such a deal, but it will take something like that or Prior and Hill to get Tejeda.

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Balt could get Colon and Cabrera right now from the Angels. It will take a Prior if we are to get him.

 

Then move on and look elsewhere for help. Current Cubs + Tejada - Prior does not = champion. So there's no point in making the deal.

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Balt could get Colon and Cabrera right now from the Angels. It will take a Prior if we are to get him.

 

Then move on and look elsewhere for help. Current Cubs + Tejada - Prior does not = champion. So there's no point in making the deal.

 

Exactly. No deal is better than a terrible deal.

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JH needs to walk away from this one and see what he can get for Pie and/or Hill. If he's gonna get crazy, he might as well get crazy down on the farm with his prospects.
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Balt could get Colon and Cabrera right now from the Angels. It will take a Prior if we are to get him.

 

Then move on and look elsewhere for help. Current Cubs + Tejada - Prior does not = champion. So there's no point in making the deal.

 

Exactly. No deal is better than a terrible deal.

 

Boston IMO is a better match for the Cubs, at least the Cubs have some parts that would interest Boston.

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Balt could get Colon and Cabrera right now from the Angels. It will take a Prior if we are to get him.

 

Then move on and look elsewhere for help. Current Cubs + Tejada - Prior does not = champion. So there's no point in making the deal.

 

Exactly. No deal is better than a terrible deal.

 

Boston IMO is a better match for the Cubs, at least the Cubs have some parts that would interest Boston.

 

Are you referring to a Manny trade?

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Balt could get Colon and Cabrera right now from the Angels. It will take a Prior if we are to get him.

 

Then move on and look elsewhere for help. Current Cubs + Tejada - Prior does not = champion. So there's no point in making the deal.

 

Exactly. No deal is better than a terrible deal.

 

Boston IMO is a better match for the Cubs, at least the Cubs have some parts that would interest Boston.

 

Are you referring to a Manny trade?

 

Would Pie + Murton + Hill for Manny interest the Sox?

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I'm glad Hendry appears to be unwilling to trade their best prospect by a significant margin. I assume most GMs would do likewise.

Well, I am not glad if it means Prior is a goner though.

 

I don't think it is a Prior or Pie scenario, Pie isn't the reason why this deal is or isn't getting done. I think it's a Prior and Pie, if the Cubs wanted to include Prior and Pie, that deal would've been done.

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Balt could get Colon and Cabrera right now from the Angels. It will take a Prior if we are to get him.

 

Then move on and look elsewhere for help. Current Cubs + Tejada - Prior does not = champion. So there's no point in making the deal.

 

Exactly. No deal is better than a terrible deal.

 

Boston IMO is a better match for the Cubs, at least the Cubs have some parts that would interest Boston.

 

Are you referring to a Manny trade?

 

Would Pie + Murton + Hill for Manny interest the Sox?

 

Don't leave out CPatt. They need a CF.

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I'm just hoping to get some help from people to explain to me why Hendry still won't trade Pie. We traded two solid pitching prospects for Pierre to play center so we have to assume Hendry sees him as more than a one year rental. We signed Jacque Jones for 3 years so we are stuck playing him. Then we have Murton in Left. I just don't see where Pie fits in. Which leads me to believe that we should now be trading Pie. The only logic I see in keeping Pie is that maybe Hendry thinks that eventually Murton and Jones will platoon.

 

Anyone else got an explanation for me? This refusual is now making me mad because it doesn't seem logical to me. We could be using Pie to land Tejada and not forcing us to add Prior into the deal.

 

Jacque Jones will be traded next winter if Pie is ready. He should be pretty tradeable at $10 million over 2 years, since 3 teams offered him more than $15 million over 3 years.

 

Exactly. If I'm Hendry, I'd rather have the problem of having too many outfielders than too few. Guys like Pierre and Jones are tradable since they aren't getting paid too much even if the Cubs have to eat a little of the contract.

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Balt could get Colon and Cabrera right now from the Angels. It will take a Prior if we are to get him.

 

Then move on and look elsewhere for help. Current Cubs + Tejada - Prior does not = champion. So there's no point in making the deal.

 

Exactly. No deal is better than a terrible deal.

 

I agree.

 

But I also think it's fair to say that all deals are better than this terrible deal!

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If Jones continues to decline, he sits the bench as an expensive 4th outfielder when Pie develops. If he improves his numbers from the last few years, he will be traded when Pie is ready at a pretty high value, if he does pan out. Too much talent is not a problem if you know how to handle it. I view Jones as a stop-gap followed by insurance.
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If Jones continues to decline, he sits the bench as an expensive 4th outfielder when Pie develops. If he improves his numbers from the last few years, he will be traded when Pie is ready at a pretty high value, if he does pan out. Too much talent is not a problem if you know how to handle it. I view Jones as a stop-gap followed by insurance.

 

He'll be awfully hard to trade if he's that bad.

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id like to get me chone figgins. he can play so many positions and he has alot of speed. him and pierre would be tremendous threats to steal. angels aint trading figgins though.
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Even if you sign Pierre to a longer deal, it doesn't mean that you can't deal him or Jones after June 15th, I think.

 

If Pierre works and you can live with Jones and Murton has high trade value and Pie is tearing it up, maybe Dusty can't get Jim fired.

 

I'm just hoping to get some help from people to explain to me why Hendry still won't trade Pie. We traded two solid pitching prospects for Pierre to play center so we have to assume Hendry sees him as more than a one year rental. We signed Jacque Jones for 3 years so we are stuck playing him. Then we have Murton in Left. I just don't see where Pie fits in. Which leads me to believe that we should now be trading Pie. The only logic I see in keeping Pie is that maybe Hendry thinks that eventually Murton and Jones will platoon.

 

Anyone else got an explanation for me? This refusual is now making me mad because it doesn't seem logical to me. We could be using Pie to land Tejada and not forcing us to add Prior into the deal.

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