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Deciding between keeping or trading Walker is much less important than getting a LHH that can hit 3rd, 4th, or 5th, in my opinion.

 

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would be better than

 

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Of course,

 

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would be better than either.

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A #3 pitcher would make a bigger difference than Walker. I don't mind Walker in the lineup, but he's not a 5 tool player. He's not even close. As for Neifi, he's starting regardless of whether Walker's here or not. Walker's in the way of Cedeno, if anybody.

No way does Neifi start over Walker. It's not happening. And what does 5 tool player have to do with anything? Corey Patterson is a 5 tool player, do you think he should play 2nd?

 

How can a guy who can't hit or take a pitch be considered 5 tool??

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given that hendry botched rf, i think the cubs need to do their best to package murton to get somebody like abreu. i could have lived with murton-bradley-wilkerson or even murton-pierre-wilkerson, but jones throws the whole thing off. you need more out of your corner OF's than murton and jones can give you.

 

trade for abreu and base what you do w/ pierre on how pie does in AAA this year.

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A #3 pitcher would make a bigger difference than Walker. I don't mind Walker in the lineup, but he's not a 5 tool player. He's not even close. As for Neifi, he's starting regardless of whether Walker's here or not. Walker's in the way of Cedeno, if anybody.

 

What does a 5 tool player have to do with a 3 starter. 5 tool players are much more rare than #3 starters.

 

And what are examples of #3 starters the Cubs could get for Walker? Are you talking somebody like Kris Benson? A highly compensated pitcher with a dubious injury history and highly unimpressive results. Are we talking Trachsel? I think you got to be more specific than just the generic #3 starter, which can mean a lot of things. Walker gone means Neifi everyday, Neifi everyday in this already weakened lineup means the pitching would have to be absolutely outstanding if the Cubs want to win a lot. #3 starters are, by definition, not outstanding. And a 3/27m #3 starter (the recent going rate) doesn't come close to equaling the value of a 1/2.5m Walker at 2B, especially in this offense.

 

Have to be a package deal cause Walker's not even worth a #3. I was just hypothetically speaking, but will look around and find someone who needs a 2b. Adam Eaton might have been nice.

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A #3 pitcher would make a bigger difference than Walker. I don't mind Walker in the lineup, but he's not a 5 tool player. He's not even close. As for Neifi, he's starting regardless of whether Walker's here or not. Walker's in the way of Cedeno, if anybody.

No way does Neifi start over Walker. It's not happening. And what does 5 tool player have to do with anything? Corey Patterson is a 5 tool player, do you think he should play 2nd?

 

How can a guy who can't hit or take a pitch be considered 5 tool??

 

When you hear the term 5 tool player, taking a pitch is not one of the tools being referred to. Just trust me on that.

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A #3 pitcher would make a bigger difference than Walker. I don't mind Walker in the lineup, but he's not a 5 tool player. He's not even close. As for Neifi, he's starting regardless of whether Walker's here or not. Walker's in the way of Cedeno, if anybody.

 

What does a 5 tool player have to do with a 3 starter. 5 tool players are much more rare than #3 starters.

 

And what are examples of #3 starters the Cubs could get for Walker? Are you talking somebody like Kris Benson? A highly compensated pitcher with a dubious injury history and highly unimpressive results. Are we talking Trachsel? I think you got to be more specific than just the generic #3 starter, which can mean a lot of things. Walker gone means Neifi everyday, Neifi everyday in this already weakened lineup means the pitching would have to be absolutely outstanding if the Cubs want to win a lot. #3 starters are, by definition, not outstanding. And a 3/27m #3 starter (the recent going rate) doesn't come close to equaling the value of a 1/2.5m Walker at 2B, especially in this offense.

 

Have to be a package deal cause Walker's not even worth a #3. I was just hypothetically speaking, but will look around and find someone who needs a 2b. Adam Eaton might have been nice.

 

So you'd rather have Neifi and Adam Eaton over Walker and Jerome Williams? Do you realize just how bad Neifi Perez is? I think you're really undervaluing Walker.

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A #3 pitcher would make a bigger difference than Walker. I don't mind Walker in the lineup, but he's not a 5 tool player. He's not even close. As for Neifi, he's starting regardless of whether Walker's here or not. Walker's in the way of Cedeno, if anybody.

No way does Neifi start over Walker. It's not happening. And what does 5 tool player have to do with anything? Corey Patterson is a 5 tool player, do you think he should play 2nd?

 

How can a guy who can't hit or take a pitch be considered 5 tool??

 

When you hear the term 5 tool player, taking a pitch is not one of the tools being referred to. Just trust me on that.

 

Figured they factored that in by now. Dude can't hit for average or power, so there's two tools that are nowhere to be found.

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A #3 pitcher would make a bigger difference than Walker. I don't mind Walker in the lineup, but he's not a 5 tool player. He's not even close. As for Neifi, he's starting regardless of whether Walker's here or not. Walker's in the way of Cedeno, if anybody.

 

What does a 5 tool player have to do with a 3 starter. 5 tool players are much more rare than #3 starters.

 

And what are examples of #3 starters the Cubs could get for Walker? Are you talking somebody like Kris Benson? A highly compensated pitcher with a dubious injury history and highly unimpressive results. Are we talking Trachsel? I think you got to be more specific than just the generic #3 starter, which can mean a lot of things. Walker gone means Neifi everyday, Neifi everyday in this already weakened lineup means the pitching would have to be absolutely outstanding if the Cubs want to win a lot. #3 starters are, by definition, not outstanding. And a 3/27m #3 starter (the recent going rate) doesn't come close to equaling the value of a 1/2.5m Walker at 2B, especially in this offense.

 

Have to be a package deal cause Walker's not even worth a #3. I was just hypothetically speaking, but will look around and find someone who needs a 2b. Adam Eaton might have been nice.

 

So you'd rather have Neifi and Adam Eaton over Walker and Jerome Williams? Do you realize just how bad Neifi Perez is? I think you're really undervaluing Walker.

 

I said "might." I need to look @ Eaton's #'s, but am a little busy @ work & my computer crawls.

 

Livan Hernandez & Derek Lowe come to mind as a couple "3's" who may be available. Of course, a 3rd team would need to be involved as LA & Washington have2b's already. I'd take Hernandez & Nefster over Williams and Walker. Of course, if Williams is out of the rotation that means Woods a starter. That's 1 helluva 1 through 4 (Z, Prior, Wood & Livan)....

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A #3 pitcher would make a bigger difference than Walker. I don't mind Walker in the lineup, but he's not a 5 tool player. He's not even close. As for Neifi, he's starting regardless of whether Walker's here or not. Walker's in the way of Cedeno, if anybody.

No way does Neifi start over Walker. It's not happening. And what does 5 tool player have to do with anything? Corey Patterson is a 5 tool player, do you think he should play 2nd?

 

How can a guy who can't hit or take a pitch be considered 5 tool??

 

When you hear the term 5 tool player, taking a pitch is not one of the tools being referred to. Just trust me on that.

 

Figured they factored that in by now. Dude can't hit for average or power, so there's two tools that are nowhere to be found.

 

Oh, he can hit for power. I'm sure the ratio of XBH to the times he actually lays the bat on the ball is quite nice. Corey's got a ton of power. Introducing the bat to the ball is the problem.

 

As for Walker, you can say he i a difference maker when you compare him with Neifi. Maybe not on most teams, but Todd is Babe Ruth compared to Perez. We are talking about a huge performance gap between the two.

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5m isn't big money for the left side of a platoon.

 

If you perhaps name me a few left side of the platoon players that are earning more than $5m per in a multi-year deal, that'd be cool. Thanks in advance.

 

Trot Nixon at $19.5/3Y. Matt Lawton at $27/4Y, though I think that one just ended. Ryan Klesko signed a $16.5/2Y extension.

 

Obviously, I'm not saying Jones compares favorably with any of those guys, nor am I saying that those are good contracts. But these things do happen.

 

Thanks for the names. Career splits...

 

Jacque Jones: .294/.341/.488 vs righties (solid), .227/.277/.339 vs lefties (untellably awful, has to be platooned)

Ryan Klesko: .292/.385/.548 vs righties (excellent), .228/.324/.370 vs lefties (just about unbearable, should probably be platooned)

Trot Nixon: .293/.379/.524 vs righties (very, very good), .215/.304/.328 (pretty damn awful, has to be platooned)

Matt Lawton: .275/.378/.436 vs righties (solid), .246/.339/.367 vs lefties (just about bearable)

 

Keep the names coming. May I suggest the Matt Lawton deal was a spectacularly awful one.

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A #3 pitcher would make a bigger difference than Walker. I don't mind Walker in the lineup, but he's not a 5 tool player. He's not even close. As for Neifi, he's starting regardless of whether Walker's here or not. Walker's in the way of Cedeno, if anybody.

 

What does a 5 tool player have to do with a 3 starter. 5 tool players are much more rare than #3 starters.

 

And what are examples of #3 starters the Cubs could get for Walker? Are you talking somebody like Kris Benson? A highly compensated pitcher with a dubious injury history and highly unimpressive results. Are we talking Trachsel? I think you got to be more specific than just the generic #3 starter, which can mean a lot of things. Walker gone means Neifi everyday, Neifi everyday in this already weakened lineup means the pitching would have to be absolutely outstanding if the Cubs want to win a lot. #3 starters are, by definition, not outstanding. And a 3/27m #3 starter (the recent going rate) doesn't come close to equaling the value of a 1/2.5m Walker at 2B, especially in this offense.

 

Have to be a package deal cause Walker's not even worth a #3. I was just hypothetically speaking, but will look around and find someone who needs a 2b. Adam Eaton might have been nice.

 

So you'd rather have Neifi and Adam Eaton over Walker and Jerome Williams? Do you realize just how bad Neifi Perez is? I think you're really undervaluing Walker.

 

I said "might." I need to look @ Eaton's #'s, but am a little busy @ work & my computer crawls.

 

Livan Hernandez & Derek Lowe come to mind as a couple "3's" who may be available. Of course, a 3rd team would need to be involved as LA & Washington have2b's already. I'd take Hernandez & Nefster over Williams and Walker. Of course, if Williams is out of the rotation that means Woods a starter. That's 1 helluva 1 through 4 (Z, Prior, Wood & Livan)....

 

Williams > Eaton. Walker >>>>>>> Perez. Not much to think about. Hernandez + Neifi would be better than Williams and Walker, if only because Hernendez will eat a ton of innings, and is a better hitter than Neifi.

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5m isn't big money for the left side of a platoon.

 

If you perhaps name me a few left side of the platoon players that are earning more than $5m per in a multi-year deal, that'd be cool. Thanks in advance.

 

Trot Nixon at $19.5/3Y. Matt Lawton at $27/4Y, though I think that one just ended. Ryan Klesko signed a $16.5/2Y extension.

 

Obviously, I'm not saying Jones compares favorably with any of those guys, nor am I saying that those are good contracts. But these things do happen.

 

Thanks for the names. Career splits...

 

Jacque Jones: .294/.341/.488 vs righties (solid), .227/.277/.339 vs lefties (untellably awful, has to be platooned)

Ryan Klesko: .292/.385/.548 vs righties (excellent), .228/.324/.370 vs lefties (just about unbearable, should probably be platooned)

Trot Nixon: .293/.379/.524 vs righties (very, very good), .215/.304/.328 (pretty damn awful, has to be platooned)

Matt Lawton: .275/.378/.436 vs righties (solid), .246/.339/.367 vs lefties (just about bearable)

 

Keep the names coming. May I suggest the Matt Lawton deal was a spectacularly awful one.

 

The fact is there aren't many platoons in MLB period. My point is if you can get a righty who mashs leftys but is horrible against righties for a few million a platoon is a great idea. For 7m you get a solid starter every day and good pitch hitter for late innings person off the bench.

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A #3 pitcher would make a bigger difference than Walker. I don't mind Walker in the lineup, but he's not a 5 tool player. He's not even close. As for Neifi, he's starting regardless of whether Walker's here or not. Walker's in the way of Cedeno, if anybody.

 

What does a 5 tool player have to do with a 3 starter. 5 tool players are much more rare than #3 starters.

 

And what are examples of #3 starters the Cubs could get for Walker? Are you talking somebody like Kris Benson? A highly compensated pitcher with a dubious injury history and highly unimpressive results. Are we talking Trachsel? I think you got to be more specific than just the generic #3 starter, which can mean a lot of things. Walker gone means Neifi everyday, Neifi everyday in this already weakened lineup means the pitching would have to be absolutely outstanding if the Cubs want to win a lot. #3 starters are, by definition, not outstanding. And a 3/27m #3 starter (the recent going rate) doesn't come close to equaling the value of a 1/2.5m Walker at 2B, especially in this offense.

 

Have to be a package deal cause Walker's not even worth a #3. I was just hypothetically speaking, but will look around and find someone who needs a 2b. Adam Eaton might have been nice.

 

So you'd rather have Neifi and Adam Eaton over Walker and Jerome Williams? Do you realize just how bad Neifi Perez is? I think you're really undervaluing Walker.

 

I said "might." I need to look @ Eaton's #'s, but am a little busy @ work & my computer crawls.

 

Livan Hernandez & Derek Lowe come to mind as a couple "3's" who may be available. Of course, a 3rd team would need to be involved as LA & Washington have2b's already. I'd take Hernandez & Nefster over Williams and Walker. Of course, if Williams is out of the rotation that means Woods a starter. That's 1 helluva 1 through 4 (Z, Prior, Wood & Livan)....

 

Williams > Eaton. Walker >>>>>>> Perez. Not much to think about. Hernandez + Neifi would be better than Williams and Walker, if only because Hernendez will eat a ton of innings, and is a better hitter than Neifi.

 

I can agree w/ Walker >>> Neifi, IF Neifi's batting 2nd. But Nef has a superior glove & is an alright 8 hitter. Just need to find a 2 hitter to replace Walker's obp. Perhaps Cedeno??

 

It's getting pretty apparent that Hendry's putting the majority of his eggs into the pitching basket. Not a bad postseason strategy, but you need to get their first.

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Do you agree with me that it shouldn't take anymore than say Koronka and Wellemeyer to land Huff?

 

Waaaa? What in earth would give you that impression? One of my pet peeves this offseason has people throwing out ridiculously low-ball trade scenarios and then calling Hendry an idiot for not making that deal. If Huff is traded for anything equivalent to Koronka (a mediocre to bad lefty) and Wellemeyer (an inconsistant righty bullpen arm with a bit of upside) I'll eat my shoe.

 

One of my pet peeves has been watching people throw out ridiculous overpay offers for a guy who isn't worth it.

 

Tampa has no pitching. Wellemeyer is a very serviceable reliever or can be converted back into the rotation for a small market team. Koronka is a lefty who has had a decent winter.

 

Neither are something to get really excited about. I'll admit it. However, Tampa doesn't have the budget to just sit a guy making 7.5m on their bench if he has another less than stellar year.

 

Tampa needs pitching REALLY bad. Who's going to offer it to them? Who's going to take Huff's 7.5m off their hands AND give up good pitching prospects? Name one team that will do that.

 

If Tampa would rather pay 7.5m for Huff to sit on the bench than add a couple of pitchers to their staff, that's their choice. I also wonder if Hendry made an offer like the one I suggested, and nothing got done because Tampa wouldn't back off on Guzman and Welly. Fine. Deals don't have to be worked out. But, Tampa wasn't able to move Lugo OR Huff OR Baez OR Gathright at this point, and I'd bet that the reason is because their demands have been too high.

 

I'd also bet that there is way too much pressure on the new GM to find a way to get Upton and Young playing everyday. Until Lugo and Huff are moved, it's difficult to justify bringing up two players that are getting extremely disgruntled that they haven't received the permanent call at this juncture.

 

JeffH is right. Tampa could wait until July. It's only my opinion, but I believe Tampa REALLY wants these guys gone and will eventually take whatever they can get for them because they won't want to pay their salaries when those guys won't make them any better one way or the other. Baez, Lugo and Huff make up over 15m in payroll.

 

Rarely will you see a team give up really good prospects in exchange for a really bad contract. Tampa could probably move Huff for a good prospect if they pick up part of the contract. I would be surprised to see that happen, honestly.

 

I'll be watching the wire. If Huff gets traded to someone for two guys no better than Koronka and Wellemeyer, I'll be wanting to see the video of you eating your shoe.

 

By the way, I would have much rather given up Nolasco, Pinto, Mitre, Guzman, Koronka, Wellemeyer, Jermaine Van Buren and Novoa for all of or a combination of Gathright, Huff, Lugo and Baez rather than the less than stellar combination of Pierre and Jones.

 

15m spent and you got a CF who is very comparable to Pierre for league minimum, a power lefty RF bat to bat behind Aramis, a SS who compares to Furcal and a set up man.

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Can we get a legitimate #5 hitter, please?

 

Huff. Nixon.

 

THe only way that happens is if Murton is dealt, IMO. Hendry doesn't want to trade Hill, so that makes Huff unlikely. I can't see the Sox trading any of the OF's now.

 

I think the OF not is the opening day OF. Sadly, it is better than the one we had last year.

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However, Tampa doesn't have the budget to just sit a guy making 7.5m on their bench if he has another less than stellar year.

 

Are we sure that TB is going to promote Young to start the season? He could stand a little more time at AAA.

 

I also wonder if Hendry made an offer like the one I suggested, and nothing got done because Tampa wouldn't back off on Guzman and Welly.

 

Remember that DKWG's report said that Guzman/Wellemeyer was Hendry's offer and that TB was holding out for more.

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However, Tampa doesn't have the budget to just sit a guy making 7.5m on their bench if he has another less than stellar year.

 

Are we sure that TB is going to promote Young to start the season? He could stand a little more time at AAA.

 

I also wonder if Hendry made an offer like the one I suggested, and nothing got done because Tampa wouldn't back off on Guzman and Welly.

 

Remember that DKWG's report said that Guzman/Wellemeyer was Hendry's offer and that TB was holding out for more.

 

DKWG's report was based out of KC. How much stock can be put into it?

 

I recall reading a lot of aggression coming from the Tampa camp that they discussed keeping Upton and Young down another year. Lamar has since left and I wonder if that had anything to do with it.

 

Chicago's leverage just became stronger now that they have filled an outfield hole. Nothing any of us are real proud of, mind you, but how many other teams are in a position to take on Huff's deal and would give up pitching prospects to do so?

 

All I'm saying is we offer Koronka and Welly and that doesn't get it done, move on. I would not give up Guzman. It would be giving another player away when their value is at an all time low.

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5m isn't big money for the left side of a platoon.

 

If you perhaps name me a few left side of the platoon players that are earning more than $5m per in a multi-year deal, that'd be cool. Thanks in advance.

 

Trot Nixon at $19.5/3Y. Matt Lawton at $27/4Y, though I think that one just ended. Ryan Klesko signed a $16.5/2Y extension.

 

Obviously, I'm not saying Jones compares favorably with any of those guys, nor am I saying that those are good contracts. But these things do happen.

 

Thanks for the names. Career splits...

 

Jacque Jones: .294/.341/.488 vs righties (solid), .227/.277/.339 vs lefties (untellably awful, has to be platooned)

Ryan Klesko: .292/.385/.548 vs righties (excellent), .228/.324/.370 vs lefties (just about unbearable, should probably be platooned)

Trot Nixon: .293/.379/.524 vs righties (very, very good), .215/.304/.328 (pretty damn awful, has to be platooned)

Matt Lawton: .275/.378/.436 vs righties (solid), .246/.339/.367 vs lefties (just about bearable)

 

Keep the names coming. May I suggest the Matt Lawton deal was a spectacularly awful one.

 

The fact is there aren't many platoons in MLB period. My point is if you can get a righty who mashs leftys but is horrible against righties for a few million a platoon is a great idea. For 7m you get a solid starter every day and good pitch hitter for late innings person off the bench.

 

I'm not interested really in players that are platooned, more in players who have splits that mean that they should be platooned. In particular, I'm looking for left-handed hitters that should be platooned. I want to see what kind of a market there is for them.

 

Here are a few...

 

Eric Chavez: .289/.367/.536 vs righties (very good), .243/.309/.401 (bad, worse than Klesko, but he plays an important defensive position superbly, so is difficult to justify)

Hank Blalock: .294/.363/.517 vs righties (very good), .222/.271/.353 (extremely awful, almost as bad as Jones, if in he shows no signs of improving he should be platooned, is that's possible at 3B)

Corey Koskie: .288/.384/.486 vs righties (very good), .247/.331/.377 (only just about bearable)

Scott Hatteberg: .276/.362/.420 vs righties (decent), .240/.332/.344 (just about unbearable, should be platooned)

Chad Tracy: .315/.368/.514 vs righties (very good), .224/.282/.352 (as bad as Jacque Jones, but the sample size here is still relatively small)

Jose Valentin: .251/.332/.485 vs righties (decent), .207/.283/.306 vs lefties (worst of the lot so far, has to be platooned)

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All I'm saying is we offer Koronka and Welly and that doesn't get it done, move on. I would not give up Guzman. It would be giving another player away when their value is at an all time low.

 

If Angel Guzman's value when he's never pitched above AA, has hardly pitched at all the last two seasons, and is a year away from being out of options is non-steroid-tainted Aubrey Huff, that's not too bad. I wouldn't dismiss that out-of-hand.

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JeffH is right. Tampa could wait until July. It's only my opinion, but I believe Tampa REALLY wants these guys gone and will eventually take whatever they can get for them because they won't want to pay their salaries when those guys won't make them any better one way or the other. Baez, Lugo and Huff make up over 15m in payroll.

 

Dude, Florida REALLY wanted to unload a lot of salary. They managed to do it and still get value in return. If Tampa REALLY wanted make these deals, they would have done something by now. Tampa has always been a horrible trade partner. They have always asked way too much for their players and they rarely get deals done. This is a sellers market, Tampa has a lot of players people want, teams (like the Cubs) have shown they are willing to overpay, yet Tampa has made no moves. Nothing seems to have changed with the new GM. These are the main reasons why assuming that Koronka and Wellemeyer will be sufficient to get Huff is absurd in my opinion.

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5m isn't big money for the left side of a platoon.

 

If you perhaps name me a few left side of the platoon players that are earning more than $5m per in a multi-year deal, that'd be cool. Thanks in advance.

 

Trot Nixon at $19.5/3Y. Matt Lawton at $27/4Y, though I think that one just ended. Ryan Klesko signed a $16.5/2Y extension.

 

Obviously, I'm not saying Jones compares favorably with any of those guys, nor am I saying that those are good contracts. But these things do happen.

 

Thanks for the names. Career splits...

 

Jacque Jones: .294/.341/.488 vs righties (solid), .227/.277/.339 vs lefties (untellably awful, has to be platooned)

Ryan Klesko: .292/.385/.548 vs righties (excellent), .228/.324/.370 vs lefties (just about unbearable, should probably be platooned)

Trot Nixon: .293/.379/.524 vs righties (very, very good), .215/.304/.328 (pretty damn awful, has to be platooned)

Matt Lawton: .275/.378/.436 vs righties (solid), .246/.339/.367 vs lefties (just about bearable)

 

Keep the names coming. May I suggest the Matt Lawton deal was a spectacularly awful one.

 

The fact is there aren't many platoons in MLB period. My point is if you can get a righty who mashs leftys but is horrible against righties for a few million a platoon is a great idea. For 7m you get a solid starter every day and good pitch hitter for late innings person off the bench.

 

I'm not interested really in players that are platooned, more in players who have splits that mean that they should be platooned. In particular, I'm looking for left-handed hitters that should be platooned. I want to see what kind of a market there is for them.

 

Here are a few...

 

Eric Chavez: .289/.367/.536 vs righties (very good), .243/.309/.401 (bad, worse than Klesko, but he plays an important defensive position superbly, so is difficult to justify)

Hank Blalock: .294/.363/.517 vs righties (very good), .222/.271/.353 (extremely awful, almost as bad as Jones, if in he shows no signs of improving he should be platooned, is that's possible at 3B)

Corey Koskie: .288/.384/.486 vs righties (very good), .247/.331/.377 (only just about bearable)

Scott Hatteberg: .276/.362/.420 vs righties (decent), .240/.332/.344 (just about unbearable, should be platooned)

Chad Tracy: .315/.368/.514 vs righties (very good), .224/.282/.352 (as bad as Jacque Jones, but the sample size here is still relatively small)

Jose Valentin: .251/.332/.485 vs righties (decent), .207/.283/.306 vs lefties (worst of the lot so far, has to be platooned)

 

 

I guess I don't unedrstand what point you are trying to make. I think platooning is a good idea that more teams should explore.

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These are the main reasons why assuming that Koronka and Wellemeyer will be sufficient to get Huff is absurd in my opinion.

 

To be fair, BBB didn't really say that would be sufficient. He said that's all he'd be willing to give.

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