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YearofDaCubs

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This is a very good move for the Rangers.

 

What does it say about what the Phils are doing?

I'm actually surprised they traded Padilla considering when healthy he is probably their best pitcher. I don't know exactly what it does say possibly rebuild a bit? who knows.

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This is a very good move for the Rangers.

 

What does it say about what the Phils are doing?

I'm actually surprised they traded Padilla considering when healthy he is probably their best pitcher. I don't know exactly what it does say possibly rebuild a bit? who knows.

 

I guess I am just hoping it means tha Gillik is clearing the cupboard and Abreu is available for less than Prior.

 

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This is a very good move for the Rangers.

 

What does it say about what the Phils are doing?

I'm actually surprised they traded Padilla considering when healthy he is probably their best pitcher. I don't know exactly what it does say possibly rebuild a bit? who knows.

 

I don't think Padilla was their best pitcher. He's basically and older Jerome Williams. None of his peripherals suggest he's bound to break out. He's got WHIP issues, a rather low K/9, and while he gives up more ground balls than fly balls, it's not a whole lot more and he is susceptible to the HR. Going from Philly to Texas isn't going to help things either.

 

Myers and Lieber are better than Padilla, whose 14 win seasons in 2002 and 2003 will probably inflate his arbitration salary.

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YearofDaCubs

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This is a very good move for the Rangers.

 

What does it say about what the Phils are doing?

I'm actually surprised they traded Padilla considering when healthy he is probably their best pitcher. I don't know exactly what it does say possibly rebuild a bit? who knows.

 

I don't think Padilla was their best pitcher. He's basically and older Jerome Williams. None of his peripherals suggest he's bound to break out. He's got WHIP issues, a rather low K/9, and while he gives up more ground balls than fly balls, it's not a whole lot more and he is susceptible to the HR. Going from Philly to Texas isn't going to help things either.

 

Myers and Lieber are better than Padilla, whose 14 win seasons in 2002 and 2003 will probably inflate his arbitration salary.

I forgot they had Myers. Myers is better definitely.

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At this point, I have no hope in the Cubs picking up Abreau. This is one less pitcher for the Phils and further strengthens their need for a strong pitcher on that staff. I don't see us with Abreau or Tejada. I wish that weren't the case, but it just doesn't seem fathomable.
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This is a very good move for the Rangers.

 

What does it say about what the Phils are doing?

I'm actually surprised they traded Padilla considering when healthy he is probably their best pitcher. I don't know exactly what it does say possibly rebuild a bit? who knows.

 

I don't think Padilla was their best pitcher. He's basically and older Jerome Williams. None of his peripherals suggest he's bound to break out. He's got WHIP issues, a rather low K/9, and while he gives up more ground balls than fly balls, it's not a whole lot more and he is susceptible to the HR. Going from Philly to Texas isn't going to help things either.

 

Myers and Lieber are better than Padilla, whose 14 win seasons in 2002 and 2003 will probably inflate his arbitration salary.

 

I don't think those seasons will help his arbitration case. I thought they looked at the last two seasons when it came to arbitration, just like they only use the last two seasons when determining the type of FA a player is. I could be wrong...

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At this point, I have no hope in the Cubs picking up Abreu. This is one less pitcher for the Phils and further strengthens their need for a strong pitcher on that staff.

 

Or it strengthens their need need for pitching depth instead of just 1 stud. Philly wasn't going to get anybody like Zambrano or Prior from any team for Abreu. There aren't many pitchers like them, and none are being shopped. What is more likely to happen is they will have to sign a free agent pitcher and acquire one or two via trade. They are looking at an opening day rotation of Myers, Lieber, Lidle, Tejeda and ????. I believe Wolf had TJS and can't be counted on at all this year. Tejeda is a good young pitcher with solid, but not spectacular numbers. Lidle sucks, going to his 6th team in 8 years, and will be 34 this season. Myers is a nice young pitcher, but no stud. And Lieber's best years are long past. As a bandbox team, I don't think they can count on top free agent pitchers coming their way, and they shouldn't be all that interested in trading for pitchers who can leave for free agency soon, because they will have to pay a premium to keep anybody. Instead, they should look to field a rotation of several 2-4 type starting pitchers, until they can develop one on their own and keep him for his full 6 pre free agency years before bolting.

 

The whole theory of trading Abreu would be build to the future. The fans have given up on the group of guys that opened Citizens Bank Park, but they are still very enthusiastic for the young guys. And Philly fans can make it very difficult for a guy they don't want there (even if he's still very good - Rolen, Schmidt, etc). Bobby might be the proverbial "baby thrown out with the bathwater" and if that happens, the Cubs have to pounce, and in doing so, sell their young kids and ability to help Philly financially.

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I'm not surprised the Phillies trade Padilla. I am surprised that it was for a PTBNL. That's what's shocking.

 

Good move for the Rangers. Puzzling move for the Phillies.

 

Exactly why I asked the question that I did: What is Philly doing here? What's Gillick up to?

I wonder if he has 40-man issues as well now that he has the two pitchers he got in the Thome deal?

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I'm not surprised the Phillies trade Padilla. I am surprised that it was for a PTBNL. That's what's shocking.

 

Good move for the Rangers. Puzzling move for the Phillies.

 

Exactly why I asked the question that I did: What is Philly doing here? What's Gillick up to?

I wonder if he has 40-man issues as well now that he has the two pitchers he got in the Thome deal?

 

That might have been part of the problem. I don't think Phily had Padilla in their plans. What he was likely to receive in arby would have been more than Phily wanted to pay. I believe there was a very high likelihood that he would have been nontendered if they didn't trade him first. Texas offered up a deal so they wouldn't be scrapping it out with other teams for his services.

 

The PTBNL might have been because of 40 man roster issues.

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