Ofman reports Cubs could have had Furcal

[ThePenguin11]

Apparently the Cubs only needed to offer 'a mere pittance' extra in order to land Furcal. It was rejected by Tribune and not Hendry. I wonder if this is related to the Len K/Aramis/m4d conspiracy.

 

EDIT: I should say that I'm wondering if the Cubs had it wrapped up until LA came in with the big offer. Then Kinser apparently came back to the Cubs saying all we had to do was raise the offer. (from $47.5 to 50 million?)

Edited December 8, 2005 by ThePenguin11

[oldcubsfan]

Little Georgie making up stuff again?

[ThePenguin11]

Little Georgie making up stuff again?

 

Grow up. That's a serious accusation of someone in the media. People lose careers over made-up stories.

Edited December 8, 2005 by ThePenguin11

[CuseCubFan69]

Little Georgie making up stuff again?

 

Is there anyone on the radio in Chicago that likes the Cubs?

[goonys evil twin]

Apparently the Cubs only needed to offer 'a mere pittance' extra in order to land Furcal. It was rejected by Tribune and not Hendry. I wonder if this is related to the Len K/Aramis/m4d conspiracy.

 

EDIT: I should say that I'm wondering if the Cubs had it wrapped up until LA came in with the big offer. Then Kinser apparently came back to the Cubs saying all we had to do was raise the offer. (from $47.5 to 50 million?)

 

That is no pittance, and I'm glad they stayed away from that awful contract.

[CuseCubFan69]

Little Georgie making up stuff again?

 

Grow up.

 

Let's please debate his point not hurl names.

 

Thanks.

[oldcubsfan]

Little Georgie making up stuff again?

 

Is there anyone on the radio in Chicago that likes the Cubs?

It really is a very short list. Kaplan, and one or two guys on MVP. The score sure seems to have it in for the Cubs, even before they got the Sox contract.

[Blueheart05]

He said upper management didn't want to increase the offer. Apparently, the agentgave them the opportunity to increase the amount and someone (above Hendry--not necessarily MacPhail) rejected the increase. It sounds a lot like what happened in STL with Burnett.

[daske17]

Apparently the Cubs only needed to offer 'a mere pittance' extra in order to land Furcal. It was rejected by Tribune and not Hendry. I wonder if this is related to the Len K/Aramis/m4d conspiracy.

 

EDIT: I should say that I'm wondering if the Cubs had it wrapped up until LA came in with the big offer. Then Kinser apparently came back to the Cubs saying all we had to do was raise the offer. (from $47.5 to 50 million?)

 

Upping the offer 2.5 million is not a "mere pittance." Fact is, Furcal wanted the cash. Atlanta would have given him stability, the Cubs would have given him security (years + cash), but he got greedy.

 

Good riddance I say. (Of course, here's hoping Juan Pierre works out :lol: ).

[SpanishFortCub]

And that's why the Cubs have always been and will likely always be losers.

[HoopsCubs]

He said upper management didn't want to increase the offer. Apparently, the agentgave them the opportunity to increase the amount and someone (above Hendry--not necessarily MacPhail) rejected the increase. It sounds a lot like what happened in STL with Burnett.

 

I'm glad upper management stepped in! 5 years and $50M for a guy whose OPS has never been above .795?

 

How's that 4/$40M Renteria deal working out for Boston. They traded him after one season!

[TXCubsFan]

Apparently the Cubs only needed to offer 'a mere pittance' extra in order to land Furcal. It was rejected by Tribune and not Hendry. I wonder if this is related to the Len K/Aramis/m4d conspiracy.

 

EDIT: I should say that I'm wondering if the Cubs had it wrapped up until LA came in with the big offer. Then Kinser apparently came back to the Cubs saying all we had to do was raise the offer. (from $47.5 to 50 million?)

 

Upping the offer 2.5 million is not a "mere pittance." Fact is, Furcal wanted the cash. Atlanta would have given him stability, the Cubs would have given him security (years + cash), but he got greedy.

 

Good riddance I say. (Of course, here's hoping Juan Pierre works out :lol: ).

 

=D> =D>

[Gunned]

Apparently the Cubs only needed to offer 'a mere pittance' extra in order to land Furcal. It was rejected by Tribune and not Hendry. I wonder if this is related to the Len K/Aramis/m4d conspiracy.

 

EDIT: I should say that I'm wondering if the Cubs had it wrapped up until LA came in with the big offer. Then Kinser apparently came back to the Cubs saying all we had to do was raise the offer. (from $47.5 to 50 million?)

 

Upping the offer 2.5 million is not a "mere pittance." Fact is, Furcal wanted the cash. Atlanta would have given him stability, the Cubs would have given him security (years + cash), but he got greedy.

 

Good riddance I say. (Of course, here's hoping Juan Pierre works out :lol: ).

 

Upping the offer by $2.5 million is just $500k a year. That's pathetic cheapness, and it's going to bite us when our middle infield is Cedeno and Neifi next year.

[hawkeyecub]

And that's why the Cubs have always been and will likely always be losers.

 

Don't believe everything you hear.

[cjbucks]

And that's why the Cubs have always been and will likely always be losers.

 

I think free agency has only been around for 30 years or so - how do you account for the 60 years before that?

[Neuby]

I would have loved Furcal but I don't fault the Cubs for not paying him 13 million dollars. This guy gets more than Konkero this offseason? Miggy gets in the 10 million dollar range. Any more than 10 for Furcal is insane.

[daske17]

Little Georgie making up stuff again?

 

Is there anyone on the radio in Chicago that likes the Cubs?

It really is a very short list. Kaplan, and one or two guys on MVP. The score sure seems to have it in for the Cubs, even before they got the Sox contract.

 

I think a lot of that is other radio station's trying to capitalize on Sox fans. Everyone knows that WGN is home to the Cubs, and doesn't really dwell on the Sox. So play up to that audience and hope that they agree with the mentality.

 

I know that I'll usually listen to Sports Central before tuning to either WMVP or the Score. Is it my Cubs bias, probably. But I don't want to listen to people who bash my team.

[goonys evil twin]

Upping the offer by $2.5 million is just $500k a year. That's pathetic cheapness, and it's going to bite us when our middle infield is Cedeno and Neifi next year.

 

Offering $10m per year for Rafael Freaking Furcal is pathetic fiscal irresponsibility, we're lucky somebody stepped in and prevented this mistake.

[Hosak8]

I'm glad upper management stepped in! 5 years and $50M for a guy whose OPS has never been above .795?

 

Honestly... so what? Vince Coleman never had an OPS over .747 But I'd give him 5/50 in 2005 if he were a free agent and we needed a leadoff hitter. OPS isn't everything... especially for a leadoff hitter.

Edited December 8, 2005 by Hosak8

[Chocolate Milk]

Little Georgie making up stuff again?

 

Grow up.

 

Let's please debate his point not hurl names.

 

Thanks.

 

Did he call him a "Grow up?" If not, I'm not seeing any names hurled.

 

Furcal was too expensive.

[WrigleyinEngland]

What a waste of air time. translated george has nothing on what jh will do next so goes back to bashing the cubs. I don't care that we could of had him for a little more. we made a very fair offer he used us good riddence happy with ronnie at ss.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

It's not about the contract being bad in the first place. hey, i didn't want furcal at the rumored prices either.

 

however, he was priority # 1 for the cubs and all it would have taken to get him was another 500k-1M per season to do it. that's just flat out cheap. come out the pocket, already.

 

if furcal couldn't suck another million per season out of the cubs, what do you think is going to happen to the lesser priorities?

 

oh, and Furcal would have been willing to take a pay cut over the other offers (according to Offman). we were at 9.5M/year, atlanta at 9M/year (one lest guaranteed year), and atlanta was at 13M/year. we already broke our rule of giving a 5+ year guaranteed contract, but can't scrape together another million per season? wow.

 

personally, i'm happy this didn't work out, but the reason it didn't work out (supposedly) doesn't put a smile on my face.

[Neuby]

Little Georgie making up stuff again?

 

Grow up. That's a serious accusation of someone in the media. People lose careers over made-up stories.

 

Not true when your in Sports Radio it happens. I'm not going to tell anyone to grow up but after time you will see most of the time Sports Radio reporters are not always anywhere neer accurate or honest.

[Gunned]

Upping the offer by $2.5 million is just $500k a year. That's pathetic cheapness, and it's going to bite us when our middle infield is Cedeno and Neifi next year.

 

Offering $10m per year for Rafael Freaking Furcal is pathetic fiscal irresponsibility, we're lucky somebody stepped in and prevented this mistake.

 

Enjoy Neifi.

[goonys evil twin]

Honestly... so what? Vince Coleman never had an OPS over .747 But I'd give him 5/50 in 2005 if he were a free agent and we needed a leadoff hitter. OPS isn't everything... especially for a leadoff hitter.

 

So what? I'll answer that. Leadoff wasn't that big of a problem. Yes, the players they chose to put there last year didn't do well, but that could be solved better with somebody other than a 5/50 Furcal. RF has been the biggest hole. SS could be filled adequately with Cedeno. RF has absolutely nobody, and if you spend $10m on Furcal you leave much less money available to improve the actual need positions. I don't like Pierre, but he's much more economical leading off at $4-6m than Furcal.