ESPNews reporting Blue Jays about to sign Burnett

[cubbyvirus00]

I pray that the Cards offer 5 years 65 mill for AJ.

 

They are wasting time and money with that glass arm.

[Blueheart05]

I pray that the Cards offer 5 years 65 mill for AJ.

 

They are wasting time and money with that glass arm.

 

It gets better! If they don't land Burnett they likely keep Marquisand go after Jacque Jones.

[Andy]

I pray that the Cards offer 5 years 65 mill for AJ.

 

They are wasting time and money with that glass arm.

 

It gets better! If they don't land Burnett they likely keep Marquisand go after Jacque Jones.

Good lord, is Jim Hendry running the Cardinals organization too?

[EastonBlues22]

Barring some big unforseen trade, the pieces of a championship run simply aren't available for the Cards this year if Burnett isn't in on the team. A potentially dominant starting rotation might mask the inevitable holes in the lineup/bullpen enough to get the job done...a mediocre to slightly above average one has no chance.

 

Unfortunately, overspending for Burnett would make closing those holes with even mediocre replacements a daunting task.

 

Pass on Burnett, if the current offer won't get it done, and don't go overboard by overspending on the scraps that are left in the outfield either. Pass out some cheap one year deals, play out the year, then put the money to better use next year on a player or two that might actually turn out to be difference makers.

[Blueheart05]

Barring some big unforseen trade, the pieces of a championship run simply aren't available for the Cards this year if Burnett isn't in on the team. A potentially dominant starting rotation might mask the inevitable holes in the lineup/bullpen enough to get the job done...a mediocre to slightly above average one has no chance.

 

Unfortunately, overspending for Burnett would make closing those holes with even mediocre replacements a daunting task.

 

Pass on Burnett, if the current offer won't get it done, and don't go overboard by overspending on the scraps that are left in the outfield either. Pass out some cheap one year deals, play out the year, then put the money to better use next year on a player or two that might actually turn out to be difference makers.

 

All kidding aside, the Cardinals can contend without Burnett (just as I beleive the Cubs can without Hendry's masterplan about Furcal). I'm sure Jocketty has a plan B if the Toronto rumors hold up.

[EastonBlues22]

All kidding aside, the Cardinals can contend without Burnett (just as I beleive the Cubs can without Hendry's masterplan about Furcal). I'm sure Jocketty has a plan B if the Toronto rumors hold up.

I'm really not convinced they can. They've lost two versatile producers off the bench (Mabry/Nunez), their 2b (Grudz), two above average bats in the OF (Sanders/Walker...well, Walker used to be anyway), a nothing special SP (Morris), and two of their top three arms in the pen plus another (Tavarez, Reyes, Eldred). Tie all that in with the uncertainty of Rolen's abilty to return to form, and what I think will be year two of Edmond's beginning of the end decline, and I think the chances of the Cards making the playoffs are pretty poor. The only reason I think there's any hope at all is because the other teams in the Central seem to be almost just as flawed at the moment.

 

Barring a miracle, the lineup will certainly be significantly less productive than last year's version...as will the bullpen. The starting pitching will still be fine even if nobody is added, but fine won't be enough to get it done in light of everything else.

[PieOnMyHands]

All kidding aside, the Cardinals can contend without Burnett (just as I beleive the Cubs can without Hendry's masterplan about Furcal). I'm sure Jocketty has a plan B if the Toronto rumors hold up.

 

According to KSKD (St. Louis TV station), the Cardinals "Plan B" involves going after Jacque Jones and Brett Boone. I mean, seriously. Being a pretty split baseball fan (49% old school, 51% sabermatrician), I feel that the non-Burnett plan is just ludacrous.

 

Think about it.

 

Jacque Jones.

Bret Boone.

Deivi Cruz.

 

2005 OPS's:

Jones: .757 vs .886 from Sanders

Boone: .411/.684 (MIN/SEA) vs. .741 from Grudz

Deivi Cruz: .698 vs. .704 from Nunez

 

Uh... yeah...

 

I would hardly call a lineup that features Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds "average," but signing the aforementioned trash could easily bring it down to that level.

 

Granted, the money we use from missing out on Burnett might be used to really solidify the bullpen, but I don't know.

 

Losing out on Burnett is like getting kicked in the balls. We were toyed with the whole time, and I knew we would get him! Damn Toronto. The minute Giles inked with San Diego, I suggested to my fellow Cards Talk members that they'd do anything to land Toronto. Looks like they have succeeded..

[badger1679666666]

All kidding aside, the Cardinals can contend without Burnett (just as I beleive the Cubs can without Hendry's masterplan about Furcal). I'm sure Jocketty has a plan B if the Toronto rumors hold up.

 

According to KSKD (St. Louis TV station), the Cardinals "Plan B" involves going after Jacque Jones and Brett Boone. I mean, seriously. Being a pretty split baseball fan (49% old school, 51% sabermatrician), I feel that the non-Burnett plan is just ludacrous.

 

Think about it.

 

Jacque Jones.

Bret Boone.

Deivi Cruz.

 

2005 OPS's:

Jones: .757 vs .886 from Sanders

Boone: .411/.684 (MIN/SEA) vs. .741 from Grudz

Deivi Cruz: .698 vs. .704 from Nunez

 

Uh... yeah...

 

I would hardly call a lineup that features Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds "average," but signing the aforementioned trash could easily bring it down to that level.

 

Granted, the money we use from missing out on Burnett might be used to really solidify the bullpen, but I don't know.

 

Losing out on Burnett is like getting kicked in the balls. We were toyed with the whole time, and I knew we would get him! Damn Toronto. The minute Giles inked with San Diego, I suggested to my fellow Cards Talk members that they'd do anything to land Toronto. Looks like they have succeeded..

 

Well if he goes to the Jays, at least Cubs fans won't be the only fans repeatedly kicked in the nuts this offseason. I never thought I could ever feel kinship with a Cards fan before lol.

[cubbyvirus00]

Yeah but the Cubs fans got kicked in the nuts in 2003, 2004, and 2005.

 

The Card fans got the taste of playoffs the past two seasons.

[Outshined_One]

So...is Milwaukee going to win the Central in 2006 or what?

 

Seriously, the way things are shaping up for this division, that outcome would not surprise me.