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A page from Vance's book: Let's vote for Felix Pie
soccer10k replied to Chris's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
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Agreed. If Prior comes back and pitches the rest of the year I think we'll have a good shot. Obviously if all three (Prior/Wood/Miller) come back healthy we'll have a great shot. But if Prior can return to his 2003 form, that will help immensely.
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I'm loving this scoreless innings streak. Anybody know the longest scoreless innings streak for a reliever?? If I had to guess I would say Gagne from a couple years ago or the Eckersley 1990 year where he had a 0.61 ERA and only allowed 9 runs all year. Not sure though, those are just guesses.
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Face value, they're a hundred. I paid $20 over. That's not too bad.
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Add Peralta to that list, and Felipe Lopez was very close. Peralta, Young, Lopez and Tejada combined don't make what Jeter makes. You can disagree if you wish, but Jeter is my choice for most overpaid player in baseball. Jeter is overpaid but he's still a valuable player, unlike Beltre, who has turned into a useless pile of puke. If you needed a big hit at the end of the game, who else on the Yankees would you want batting other than Jeter? What about in the league, with the exception of David Ortiz? Jeter ALWAYS comes through for his team. I'm not saying that he isn't overpaid, because I do think he is. But if you factor in that he's on the Yankees, I don't think you can consider him the most overpaid player. He would only be making 10-12 mil if he was on any other team.
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That could be said for a lot of hitters last night, including Lee, Barrett, Walker, and Murton. Nobody looked good at all. Jones did. But he was taken out. Yeah, the one day that Jones actually hits well, Dusty takes him out early.
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Pedro easily with Maddux second. Clemens always seemed to disappear when his team needed him the most. Pedro had so many unbelievable games in his prime that I would have to go to him. Pedro during his prime was flat out untouchable.
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It's fun to think that it's just part of the Master Plan when he does walk someone. That's still an amazing streak.
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Remember that RBI single he had against Wuertz in the Sunday Night game? It was on a pitch exactly like you described, and he hammered it past Cedeno. But it didn't go out of the park. If he hits it on the ground at least we have a chance ...when its in the seats we don't. That's an excellent point. I believe the quote is "you can't hit it out of the park if you hit it on the ground" or something to that affect. But I think you do the same thing you do with any great hitter. Be careful. If the situation permits, then pitch to him. Base open, unintentional intentional walk. We've seen the same thing happen with DLee this year a couple times.
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I don't think he improved at all last night. Many people have said he didn't pitch well in the first four games. What's the difference between his lines from last night and from the St. Louis start? STL: 6 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 4 BB, 5 SO, 111 PIT LAD: 6 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 5 BB, 3 SO, 112 PIT If he wasn't pitching well before, how was last night any different? I know he didn't pitch well in both starts against Cincinnati but he still isn't right. I don't care about the gun speed. His problem is still walks. He's walked 17 in just 4 starts while only striking out 21. He's only given up 19 hits because the opposing team is too busy getting walked to swing at the pitches. His WHIP is 1.59 right now. He has to get his walks down to be an effective pitcher and until he does that consistently, he isn't pitching well. I'm not saying he can't walk anybody, but only walk one or two a game instead of 4 or 5.
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Guess what: the Central's Mr. Glass re-appears on the DL
soccer10k replied to KatJ's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Absolutely. He was one of the top 5 players in the game when he was with Seattle. I argue that Bonds would have been a HOFer with just his career before he took roids and I think if you take Griffey's career through the 2000 season, he's the same way. BTW, he played 145 games with the Reds in 2000. -
Whoa whoa whoa. Back off the Hate Jacque Jones bandWGN. He went 2 for 3 last night and has raised that stellar batting average of his to .190. I'm just kidding. Go ahead and bash him.
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If Pedro does that at a similar level of performance he's put up since the late 90s, I think he leaps past Clemens at that point. But that's a very big if. If Pedro pitches well and ends up with close to 300 wins, I think that could vault him higher in some people's minds. I don't think he'll get 300 though.
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That's the first time I have actually ever seen his sixth finger. Thank you for posting that.
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Zuleta steamrolled that guy. That was awesome.
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Overall I'd put it Clemens, Maddux, Pedro. Clemens recent years of dominance in Houston and Maddux's recent years of average perforance put Clemens over the top. Side point #1: IMO, from his last year at Montreal until his near-4.00 ERA year in Boston, Pedro was the most dominant starting pitcher ever. Side point #2: This kind of surprised me, but of the three, Maddux has the best post-season ERA Clemens: 3.71 Maddux: 3.22 Martinez: 3.40 I didn't know Pedro had a better postseason ERA. I figured Clemens would have the worst of the three though. I don't know about most dominant pitcher ever, but his stretch from 1997 to 2003, like you said, was definately the most dominant stretch of pitching of our generation.
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Fixed - I don't trust the Cy Young voters. Thank you. How about Maddux needs to have a Cy Young worthy season.
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I like it.
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Skip to October
soccer10k replied to Backtobanks's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Agreed. We did give Jacque a $16 mil contract. I think if Maddux gives us a hometown discount we should resign him. Like a couple other people said, 1 yr guaranteed with an option for a second year sounds good to me. -
4/18 Cubs (Big Z) @ Dodgers (Lowe) 9 pm WGN
soccer10k replied to Andy's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
I agree with you whole point. He needs to be the ace that we expected him to be this year. -
I love Wood. I hope that he comes back as healthy as ever and finally becomes the pitcher we all expected him to be. I'm just tired of getting excited about him coming back just to hear that he had a setback or got hurt again. He had two full seasons in 02 and 03 and he had two mostly full seasons in 98 and 01. But he missed the whole 99 season and good chunks of 00, 04 and 05. I've just come to the conclusion that if I have no hopes for him, then he can't let me down.
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Hindsight is 20-20.
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Even if Maddux does that it's still nowhere near what Clemens did the last couple years with Houston. Maddux is close to Clemens, but he would have to win a Cy Young to pass Clemens in my book.
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He's saying that if you intentionally pitch around somebody then it isn't a bad thing whereas if you just can't find the plate. Whether or not you get burned is another thing entirely. Obviously if a guy is raking you and the next guy hasn't hit you well, then it might be a good idea to walk the first guy. If the second guy ends up getting a hit or a home run, then it's just bad luck because you faced the guy that, statistically, had done worse against you.
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If you are going by best overall career up to this point: 1. Clemens 2. Maddux 3. Pedro Pedro hasn't done it long enough to warrant being ahead of Clemens or Maddux in terms of best career. If Pedro keeps it up for another 5 years, then I might put him higher. If you are talking about who was the most dominant and who the opposing team didn't want to face then I would say: 1. Pedro 2. Maddux 3. Clemens Pedro during the late 90's was the best pitcher in the league by far. He was downright nasty.