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You're quite selective in your evaluation. Here's who West Virginia beat this year: Marshall Eastern Washington Maryland @East Carolina @Mississippi State Syracuse @UConn So you're telling me that Penn State, Wisconsin and Notre Dame aren't that good - in large part because of the quality of their competition this year - but you're giving WVU credit for being a really good team? Based on what? A home win over Maryland? That doesn't mean WVU isn't a good team. Texas played one good team last year in Ohio State and the rest of their schedule was horrible because the Big 12 stunk in 2005 but does that make them a bad team? Of course not. Obviously Texas was creaming their opponents and had Vince Young, but the fact is that they didn't play anybody last year but nobody questioned how good they were. I brought this up yesterday and I'll bring it up again. A lot of people instantly ripped WVU and UL for not playing defense in Thursday's game but very few people stopped to consider if maybe it was actually two extremely good offenses at work. Texas and USC combined for 79 points and 1130 yards in the National Title game last year but was that horrible defense? Of course not. Every single sportswriter referred to it somthing like the epic encounter of two historic offenses. Not one mention of potentially bad defenses. A lot of people have this notion that the Big East isn't very good and is an inferior conference. That's completely wrong. Some people will even argue that the Big East doesn't even deserve a BCS bid which is absurd. The Big East is a quality football conference that is rapidly improving. I think that Louisville deserves to be the #2 team in that nation right now over Michigan.

That is completely ridicilous. Louisville has beat up on the likes of Temple, Kansas St, Middle Tenn, Cincinnati, and Syracuse. The only half-way decent teams they've beaten are the vastly over-rated Miami and West Virginia. They would get pounded by any number of teams below them including Texas Tennesse ND Auburn USC The Big East is a joke of a Football Conference. When they play in the title game, if they beat the might Rutgers team, they are going to get crushed. How do you know West Virginia is overrated? The way Michigan has played recently, they don't deserve the #2 ranking. Unless something big changes and changes quickly they are going to get hammered by Ohio State. Maybe, but their schedule includes not-that-difficult road wins over Notre Dame and Penn State, as well as handing Wisconsin their only loss. Meanwhile, Louisville has only played two games that could be considered tough, both of them at home, and they won both. If you're going to tell me that Louisville belongs at #2, then I need evidence that they've earned that ranking. Looking at their schedule, I just can't say they have. Michigan may be playing poorly right now, but they've shown more than Louisville has this year. Notre Dame = overrated Penn State = hasn't beat anybody and I don't think they're very good Wisconsin = lost to Michigan but hasn't played anybody else Iowa = not that good I think WVU is the best opponent that either Louisville or Michigan has played this year.

That is completely ridicilous. Louisville has beat up on the likes of Temple, Kansas St, Middle Tenn, Cincinnati, and Syracuse. The only half-way decent teams they've beaten are the vastly over-rated Miami and West Virginia. They would get pounded by any number of teams below them including Texas Tennesse ND Auburn USC The Big East is a joke of a Football Conference. When they play in the title game, if they beat the might Rutgers team, they are going to get crushed. How do you know West Virginia is overrated? The way Michigan has played recently, they don't deserve the #2 ranking. Unless something big changes and changes quickly they are going to get hammered by Ohio State. And I think you are vastly underrating not only Louisville but the Big East in general. Louisville is a very good team and I think they will surprise a lot of people if they win out and make the National Title game. EDIT: And Notre Dame...HAHAHAHAHAHA. Their defense is HORRIBLE.

Mark me down in the Louisville #2, Michigan #3 camp. Right now, I would put my money on the over of whatever spread they have for OSU/UM.

Maryland pulls off the upset and the crapshoot known as picking ACC games continues.

Really? I'm not so sure about that.

Meanwhile, North Carolina just marched down the field on Notre Dame for a TD. 7-7.

That's disappointing.

Instead of who is #1, UM or OSU, now the question becomes, does Louisville jump Michigan to #2 in the polls this week?

Wow. Anyone watching the Maryland-Clemson game? Maryland should have had a safety but they ruled the Clemson player down on the six inch line. Clemson runs on second down, doesn't get anything. Then on third and long from the six inch line, Clemson completes a 70 yard pass and run. Now Clemson is on the 15 yard line of Maryland.

Not surprising because it's the Yankees.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/media/inourtime_infinity.jpg

My favorite part of the 'interview' by far.

But he's a clutch hitter.

Except the football apparently.

There are a lot of people who are fans of both teams. I do agree with this statement. Remember that Bonds hit one of the milestone HR's this year - not sure if it was tying or passing Ruth - in Oakland and got a good ovation.

I think it's motha. I might be wrong though.

This thread is hilarious. Although that may be because I'm drunk. I think I'll classify rjchapma as insane at this point. I think I'll reread it when I'm sober/hungover in the morning and get back to you. BEER ME!!

WTF is wrong with you, Jim?

I remember the Cubs passing on Jim Thome because Hee Seop Choi was waiting in the wings. Perhaps they remember that as well. I also remember a lot of fans up in arms when we traded Lee and gave up Hee Seop, claiming we just took on salary for what will one day be equal production at the same position. Uhh .... not quite. I obviously wasn't on this board when that happened but I was elated when the Cubs made that trade. I never thought Choi was that good and figured Lee would show a huge improvement in 2004 in coming to Chicago (I was a year off in that although I didn't see Lee being as good as he was in 2005).

Thread title should be changed. Liriano likely to miss 2007 after elbow surgery Ouch for the Twins.

Wow, talk about 4 games that I could give a crap about The Rose Bowl will be good either way. I would love to see either Florida or WVU against ND because they both have good offenses which is ND's weakness. The Orange Bowl would be so/so and that Fiesta Bowl matchup would be bad. The National Title game, which under your situation would be OSU/UM - UL would be entertaining as well. I disagree that ND's weakness is a good offense-I think it is just the opposite. The scary teams to me are the ones with a good defense, because anybody can score a bunch of points on ND. The question is-can the other team slow down ND's offense? The ones that have-GT, Michigan, Michigan State (for 2 1/2 quarters), and UCLA have given ND trouble. With that said, Florida would definitely be a harder game for ND. WVU-ND would be very entertaining, and would probably be much like the game last night (maybe without all the WVU fumbles). MSU most definitely does not have a good defense. They've given up like 80 points to Northwestern and Indiana the past two weeks. "Get Chris Smeland out of town. He is the single worst defensive coordinator ever born into this world." Had to steal that one from Mike Valenti and his MSU rant.

It's like the stupid preseason polls during the season. I'm not saying the Big East is the best but it's just as good as any major conference. I was listening to Mike and Mike and they were saying since Miami and the others left everyone assumes the conference is weak and they just brush it off. It's like we have to wait for 4 to 5 years for them to prove they belong while IMO they already have. This conference has 2 losing teams out of 8 or 75% of the teams in it. No other conference can say that. I think almost everyone else on this board would disagree with this. The Big East is the most underrated of the six major conferences. They're definitely better than the ACC and they're likely better than the Big 12. That puts them 4th out of 6 at the worst. Saying the Big East is 4th out of 6 at worst is very different than saying that the Big East is just as good as any[/b] of the other major conferences. I didn't say they were actually the 4th best out of 6. I meant that after thinking about this for 2 seconds that I can come to the conclusion that they are in the top 4. Where in the top 4, well, I would have to think about that for a little while.

Wow, talk about 4 games that I could give a crap about The Rose Bowl will be good either way. I would love to see either Florida or WVU against ND because they both have good offenses which is ND's weakness. The Orange Bowl would be so/so and that Fiesta Bowl matchup would be bad. The National Title game, which under your situation would be OSU/UM - UL would be entertaining as well.

Texas 41, USC 38. Does that score mean those two teams couldn't handle the "big boys"? Absolutely not because everybody said they both had great offenses. I realize it's a little different and I'm not saying the WVU and UL offenses are as good as 2005 USC and 2005 Texas but they both are good. WVU's is more of a gimmick offense but Louisville's offense is the real deal IMO.