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When I went to the game last week I couldn't believe how diminutive Torreyes was compared everyone else. He can't be taller than 5-4. tiny dude. Still, he has enough positives that this trade, moreso than Feldman, seemed to show their desperation for IFA money. I'm also mildly curious why Houston did this. As I'm not an Astros fan, I guess I really don't care, but it seems odd that a rebuilding team would, at the expense of IFA money, add a 2nd baseman in AA when their best MLB asset is a young 2nd baseman. Then again, don't care. You'd have to think they weren't going to spend the money anyway and were happy to acquire whatever they could for the right to not spend that money. -
I'm not so sure he doesn't understand all this. I just think it's not on him to give a crap about the long-term interests of the ballclub. He's on the Chicago Cubs in 2013 and they suck and just traded away a good player. He saw this last year and he's been a part of a team that has been bad for a long time. At 30,000 feet you can see the promise on the horizon, but the guys who have to play on this crap team right now don't have the advantage of tuning out and waiting for the future.
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The Mets could be included in the popular, bad team argument too. But it does seem like a larger trend than just this season. They could, but they are a distant second in their own city and I don't think they have much of a national presence.
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low scoring baseball is boring of the three most popular teams in the game: one has been irrelevant for four seasons (cubs) one is coming off a disastrous season which followed a very disappointing one (bos) one is a completely overexposed dull brand having a ho-hum season (nyy) Of the 6 current division leaders, only Boston has shown a consistently supportive fan base
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Eh, I don't begrudge a player for lamenting the loss of a teammate while witnessing his front office punt multiple seasons. Those are the guys who should say this stuff.
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sullivan said something about likely end of camp and rodriguez
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Look, you are the one who tried to equate this to trading for the 16 year old. They didn't have to trade stuff to sign him. They could have just signed him, and he wouldn't have been the only one. So, sign Mejia and not have an opportunity to sign Jimenez so you can hold onto Feldman/Clevenger/Torreyes is what you're saying? No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying your made up equivocation is not relevant.
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Look, you are the one who tried to equate this to trading for the 16 year old. They didn't have to trade stuff to sign him. They could have just signed him, and he wouldn't have been the only one.
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They could have still signed the top 2. It's still just allowing for the second tier 16 year olds, not the elite.
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Who said he had no familiarity? What the hell are you talking about? I would assume that when he was out west he had familiarity with him. I would hope so at least. I just don't see how he'd have extra familiarity based simply on being employed by an organization whose major league team plays in the same division as the major league team of the organization where that prospect played at the time.
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No, because they could have signed without making any of those trades. Do you honestly think that Hoyer is going to acquire all that IFA pool money and not use it? That has nothing to do with what you asked. The extra pool money isn't allowing them to add the elite guys, it's allowing them to add the 2nd tier guys after spending their own money on the elite guys.
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NBC Sports @NBCSports 25m The final is on ESPN. RT @BillSimmons "Radwanska! Bartoli!!!!! It's the Wimbledon Women's Finals on NBC!" Retweeted by Drew Magary
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Theo was in the AL East as recently as 2011, while the other two big guys had been in the NL West for a long time. Although I don't think there's any extra familiarity with being in the same division anyway. You don't think there's any extra familiarity with guys on teams you play 17-19 times every year over a team in the other league? That's flat out ridiculous. A pitcher you might see twice? I would think the front office types would familiarize themselves with everybody in the league and not just focus on the opponents of the big league team at the moment. Arrieta faced Boston twice in 2011 and once in 2010. Strop didn't come to the AL East until halfway through 2011. He threw 2.2 innings versus Boston that year. I can't imagine how they would realistically have more familiarity with those guys than with the rest of the league.
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The Cubs are the ones making it valuable by being the guys who are trading stuff for it.
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Theo was in the AL East as recently as 2011, while the other two big guys had been in the NL West for a long time. Although I don't think there's any extra familiarity with being in the same division anyway.
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No, because they could have signed without making any of those trades.
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Paul Sullivan retweeted it.
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I saw somewhere in the madness that is my Twitter stream right now that we're sending some money with Marmol, like $2m or something. That sounds right. If we were saving about $3 mil on a guy we were going to cut in a couple days anyways, that would be crazy. Unless less I missed something we just saved 2.5 million on the Marmol Deal. I read we sent 2.5 mil to the dodgers with Marmol. He is owed 5mil for the rest of this season. And they took back a guy owed a little under $2m.
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I would phrase that a little differently, since they are saving on 2013 major league payroll costs and only acquiring the right to spend more money on minor leaguers. I wouldn't be surprised if part of the motivation for the trades was a need to shift expenses in that way.
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is it valuable? It seems the Cubs are the ones spending the most on it. If they were out of the market it may plummet in value.
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I'm guessing they saved ~$5m and have the right to spend an extra ~$1m at this point. (didn't realize you were already doing the net change in pool)
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it has to be a factor if that's the deal. They saved $2.5m, which is relatively close to what they saved by dealing Feldman (presumably)
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I'd be curious how much 2013 payroll (and slot space) they trade away versus how much slot space they bring on. I am assuming they will be saving money overall by shift 2013 expenses away from 2013 payroll and toward more kids.
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those would be big slots, would they not? Bleacher Nation says roughly 800k. That's nice, big slots are good.[/grace]
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those would be big slots, would they not?
