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  1. Hmm that is word for word what was in a piece on the trib site today, they must of got it from there.
  2. I think people will be pleasently suprised with DeRosa, I expect he'll put up better numbers than what Giles will put up. Gile's numbers last year were pretty sad, he's clearly on the decline.
  3. I met Andy's father, a couple of years ago. There was a long thread about this that I wrote shortly after meeting him. He mentioned that Andy hurt his hand in an altercation involving Ryu. I dont remember alot about the couple of conversations that we had, if you did some digging you could probably find the post it was in the minor league forums 2 or 3 years ago. The vibe I got from his father was that he was a very hard worker but his father even admited he was a bit of a "hot head" at times. The more stories I have heard since then the more it seems that Andy was not such a great "charecter" guy. BTW I think I remember the father saying that Ryu instigated the fight by shoving Andy, he didnt have to many nice things to say about Ryu either.
  4. Now that space is cleared on the 40-man, I expect it any day now, pending his physical exam. Great, thanks for the info.
  5. Bruce when is the Marquis deal suppose to be made official?
  6. figuring in the total cost makes it 17 mil a year, for an unproven commodity. That's too much to pay IMO. I mean, 17 mil makes him the highest paid pitcher in baseball, I think. Mats is not likely to see any of that 51 million dollar posting fee. They paid the 51 million simply to negociate the contract. You can argue the posting fee was ridiculous, but the contract itself will probably turn out to be a bargin, barring injury.
  7. He's losing some of money for security I guess. Alot of people would argue that giving a 6 year deal to a pitcher is insane. You think Kerry Wood was abused? This guy was pitching 160 pitches and then throwing a bulpen session afterwards (thats what they were saying on XM this morning). He also has alot of other odd routines, like he doesnt ice his shoulder. I wonder if they will allow him to continue training in the manner that he has or if they will try to conform him to what all the other Boston pitchers do. I wonder if throwing less pitches for him will make him less sharp or if the change in routine will negatively effect him. 6 years is alot to commit for a pitcher.
  8. Because Gagne has pitched in MLB to earn Free Agency. Daisuke has not. Frankly, they're lucky they get to negotiate a contract that's as good as they've been offered, instead of 3 years of < 1M indentured servitude like every other player. *sigh* he's been serving his "years of indentured servitude" in Japan. Those guys have it much worse of in terms of players rights and money than the US players do. In 2 years he would have full free agent rights there as well as here. Im sure Boston wants alot more than 2 years, why should Mats sign a long term contract for below free agent market prices when he has the option of waiting 2 more years and getting paid market value? If Mats wants market value more than playing in MLB as soon as possible, then he shouldn't have asked to be posted and waited out the two years until Free Agency. I disagree, but I give up trying to argue the point.
  9. Because Gagne has pitched in MLB to earn Free Agency. Daisuke has not. Frankly, they're lucky they get to negotiate a contract that's as good as they've been offered, instead of 3 years of < 1M indentured servitude like every other player. *sigh* he's been serving his "years of indentured servitude" in Japan. Those guys have it much worse of in terms of players rights and money than the US players do. In 2 years he would have full free agent rights there as well as here. Im sure Boston wants alot more than 2 years, why should Mats sign a long term contract for below free agent market prices when he has the option of waiting 2 more years and getting paid market value?
  10. The Red Sox paid so they would have exclusive negotiating rights. Combining that with his lack of MLB service time, and there's no reason why he should make 10-12 million per year. Look at Ichiro for an example in the posting system, or any other pre-free agency player's contract. Why should the Red Sox pay market value when they already paid to exclusively negotiate? Exactly. Matsuzaka isn't a FA, so he shouldn't expect to get the same type of deal he would if he were a FA. The Red Sox dished out a boat load of money to get the exclusive rights. They shouldn't have to pay top dollar on top of that. IF Matsuzaka wants top dollar he should just wait 2 years and then become a FA. Yes he should wait 2 years. Why should he sign a 6 year contract at a rate that is much less than he could get if he was a free agent. Thats 4 years of his services that Boston gets at a hugely dicounted rate. He should expect to sell his FA rights away basicly? No way.
  11. He should be getting 10-12 million a year if not he should go back to Japan for a couple more seasons then hit the free agent market for a huge payday. I dont blame Daisuke or Boras I blame Boston for low balling. Id just back my bags and go back to Japan for a couple more years. I dont think Boston ever intended to sign him anyway.
  12. As I pointed out on another thread, Giles will not be coming here if the Braves non-tender him. At three years and $13 million, I think the Cubs are pretty well committed to DeRosa. I think people are going to be happy with DeRosa. If you really want to get behind replacing someone replace Izturis!
  13. When is the deadline for non-tendering? I thought I saw tuesday but what time?
  14. And raises the asking price. Which was already supposively to high.
  15. This whole thing is Larry's idea. I have a whole host of feelings about this, but none of them are suitable for NSBB. :x heh, I probably have alot more faith in Larry than you do but I still wouldnt have paid the guy 28mil for 3 years.
  16. I'd rather see Pie get another year of consistant atbats in Iowa.
  17. I think for him the best thing to do would be to go back and play 2 more years in Japan. I dont think he saw the senerio where someone would pay 51 mil to negotiate. If that had not happened he'd have gotten a much more lucrative offer. Its my opinion that Boston never intended to sign him but they are trying to make it look like they wanted to by low balling him. In my opinion the amount they are offering is about 4 mil a year off what he should get in this market. I think at the very least you can expect numbers better than Lilly's or Meche's and I think hes much much better than that. Go back to Japan hit the free agent market in a couple years, thats what I'd do.
  18. LOL. Are you taking a list of posters who don't like the Marquis signing, then(should Marquis actually pitch decent in 2007) call them out in every thread like this: "OMG Dude, you send Marquis would suck in Dec, but now he is good man! Dude you have to eat some major crow man! just eat the crow " Nope. I'm just pointing out that saying the rotation is worse off than last season isn't going to be true. Those that are negative right now will be pleasantly surprised. Lilly and Marquis will be fine. Hill will pitch well. Z is a beast. Maybe we'll get a nice surprise from Prior or Miller or one of the many rookies with potential. Well Rich, I for one am greatful for your possitive post. I'm really looking forward to watching this team. I think we will be exciting and competetive. There are things Im not happy with (like this Marquis signing) but there are things that I am ecstatic about (Soriano signing). Im really looking forward to seeing what Lee/Aram/Soriano are able to accomplish and I think Z and Hill are going to be very good and then there is the possibility that Lilly could improve quite a bit with the move fromt he AL to the NL. I also think that the bulpen is a strength. All is not lost just because Jim didnt sign Schimdt and signed a huge risk in Marquis.
  19. Marquis is not worth 9+ mil a year, he's bad. I really think this was a huge waste of money and a mistake worse than the money KC gave Meche. I hope he proves me wrong and has a great 2007, but I seriously doubt it. I dont understand why anyone would give him 9+ million a season for 3 years. We have a handful of guys that could put up similar numbers for far less money. This just seems very very foolish. Id like to add that I dont think Hendry is a "tool" or an "idiot" or any of that nonsense, I just really dont like this move.
  20. 50,000 Basically, that means the Cubs broke even. $50,000 was what they had to pay Tampa Bay, so they're just getting their money back from the Reds. Consistent with the idea that they were really drafting him for the Reds in the first place. I'm sure there's a gentlemen's agreement in place that, at some time in the future, the Reds would do something similar for the Cubs if the situations are reversed. Otherwise, it would make no sense for the Cubs to help out a division rival without getting anything in return. Nope. I read elsewhere (no link) the Reds paid the Cubs $100,000 for Hamilton, so the Cubs netted $50K by doing this for them. Overall, the Cubs received a net $250K cash from the Rule 5 draft. That'll cover one week's worth of Alfonso-Mania! My quote was from a trib article, was just passing along what I saw. I guess they were wrong.
  21. 1. you don't really know if the Cubs are only getting 25K for those rights from Cinci. 2. maybe Lou said he doesn't think the kid can turn it around. My positive feeling earlier was based on Lou having seen him in ST for a couple years in TB. Maybe he gave a negative scouting report. 50,000
  22. There are actually two positions left. CF and SS. Sadly Hendry does not see it that way and he runs the team. He loves Izturis.
  23. and everyone knows that its impossible to repeat a good performance right... *sigh*
  24. Wow this is the hieght of baseball stupidity. More than 10 mil per yer for Gil Meche? uggh
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