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Oh. Well, he's speaking from the POV of other people so, yeah, that's a complicated sentence. He's not an English major, that's for sure.
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- He said the 8-hour phone calls didn't start until she was ostensibly in the hospital post-'car wreck'. They went from late April until her supposed 'death' - He admitted that he lied to his parents about meeting with her, and his dad told the press that story He also admitted lying to the media directly about meeting her. Yes. I was directly answering manbearcub's question, though.
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- He said the 8-hour phone calls didn't start until she was ostensibly in the hospital post-'car wreck'. They went from late April until her supposed 'death' - He admitted that he lied to his parents about meeting with her, and his dad told the press that story
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I think we all knew he did, otherwise this story wouldn't have blown up in the fall and it wouldn't matter now.
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If I'm reading between the lines correctly, Te'o suspected something was up when he went to ND, ND's report confirmed a hoax on Jan. 5. Te'o wasn't 100 percent certain there wasn't a Lennay Kekua (by which I assume he meant he didn't know if there was a girl at the center of this hoax) until Tuiasosopo apologized two days ago.
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Also of note is that Te'o did not know this was a hoax when he first got the resurrection phone call on Dec. 6 as widely assumed, that was just a continuation of said hoax. Until the apology call Wednesday, Te'o did not know for certain whether the girl existed.
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I didn't hear anything to that extent. The only surprising thing I heard out of that exchange between Schaap and Jay Harris was that this Tuiasosopo apparently called Te'o two days ago and apologized for the scam (which would've been the same day, obviously, that this story came out). Schaap said this was backed up with Twitter messages which Te'o showed him.
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So suspicious that he doesn't want his public humiliation to be at the top of the news, you're right. If he comes clean about everything, then sure, but if nothing gets told? No. If he's totally innocent, this can be handled tonight. I agree that there are parts of this that are slightly suspicious (no camera, limited audio use). Arranging the interview for a Friday night is just common sense.
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So suspicious that he doesn't want his public humiliation to be at the top of the news, you're right.
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Te'o being interviewed off-camera with his attorney present by ESPN's Jeremy Schaap. Details to be on SportsCenter tonight.
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http://www.csnchicago.com/ncaa/notre-dame/irish-talk/As-Teo-saga-evolves-plenty-of-questions-?blockID=824759&feedID=661&awid=4699872472802458519-914
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Te'o's uncle did a radio interview this evening claiming that Tuiasosopo (as himself, not as the fake girl) was hitting the Te'o family up for money, ostensibly for a leukemia foundation dedicated to Lennay. Te'o supposedly promised his uncle/family that he would cut the guy out a few days after the USC game. It was a week and a half later that "Lennay" resurfaced.
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So part of the story was that her dad died and she somehow inherited his position in the hierarchy of somebody else's construction company? That one caught me too. Some sort of miscommunication on that one.
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That transcript is insane. Whoever is responsible for the hoax, whether Te'o was duped or not, it's got to be the most elaborately staged one I've ever heard of on the Internet.
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It probably prevented him from doing a Chip Kelly turnaround, but I doubt he was going to do that anyway. If he was going to leave he would have done it originally when, according to PFT and others, the Eagles were ready to offer him the job.
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Well, in one case, the player came directly to them and they reacted, which is understandable. In the other, do we know the athletic program had any immediate knowledge, or was it just reported to campus police and they did nothing? Or was it reported to both the campus police and the athletic department? I don't recall the details. My limited understanding of the sexual assault case is that it was reported to campus police and they were the ones dragging their feet. Whether the athletic department was involved to some extent in that, as far as I know, was never made clear.
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Yahoo sources are now saying that ND administrators expected Te'o and/or his reps to get out in front of this story on Monday and that didn't happen. A really stupid non-move. Letting Deadspin have the first word on this story was a huge misstep.
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Seeing the Megahan Tweetstorm, it really does look like Manti was fooled and lied to his parents. I vaguely wonder how much of a story this would be if ND had gone 8-4.
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Again, the first Twitter interaction between Te'o and the fake girl was October 10, 2011. People continue to propagate the "over three years" stuff although the only evidence that it lasted that long is that Te'o claimed to meet the girl in California in 2009, a fact we all now know to be false. I agree with Clay Travis that it's entirely possible Te'o is gay and didn't want to deal with people asking why he didn't date.
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SI's Michael Rosenberg, presumably not an ND fan: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130116/teo-column/index.html
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i'm sure you'd have the same opinion if this was matt barkley and all the other details were the same To be fair, the same sarcastic remark could be directed to the dozen-plus people posting in this thread who dislike ND at least as much as MR dislikes USC.
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I hadn't heard any.
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He's a stupid religious nut who has no idea how to deal with being gay and so he did something really, really stupid. There's plenty reason. And yeah, go ahead and keep acting like anyone's reaction to this has amounted to much more emotionally besides "this is hilarious." I'm not ready to infer that. It's certainly possible. What I'm saying is that a neutral observer who doesn't really care about Te'o or ND one way or the other, it's circumstantial lay much more likely he's involved. Occam's Razor. Thing is, even if he's genuinely a victim, it doesn't change the fact that everyone who believed he's totally innocent are wrong to believe it right now. Such obvious bias is almost funny. I haven't seen one smart non-ND fan come out strong in his defense. I don't know what your definition of 'come out strong' is but Stewart Mandel of SI.com already is on record as saying he believes the story until proven otherwise, mainly because, as he put it, Te'o would be insane to confirm this to ND and let them hire investigators if he was in on it. what was his option at that point Ask Mandel, I didn't say it.
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He's a stupid religious nut who has no idea how to deal with being gay and so he did something really, really stupid. There's plenty reason. And yeah, go ahead and keep acting like anyone's reaction to this has amounted to much more emotionally besides "this is hilarious." I'm not ready to infer that. It's certainly possible. What I'm saying is that a neutral observer who doesn't really care about Te'o or ND one way or the other, it's circumstantial lay much more likely he's involved. Occam's Razor. Thing is, even if he's genuinely a victim, it doesn't change the fact that everyone who believed he's totally innocent are wrong to believe it right now. Such obvious bias is almost funny. I haven't seen one smart non-ND fan come out strong in his defense. I don't know what your definition of 'come out strong' is but Stewart Mandel of SI.com already is on record as saying he believes the story until proven otherwise, mainly because, as he put it, Te'o would be insane to confirm this to ND and let them hire investigators if he was in on it.
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From ESPN.com article on the situation: I hope some journalist goes after this.
