Andy

Waaaaaaaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaaaaaa! [expletive] Golden Domers Did Joe Morgan write that? Stupidity is, as we all know, exclusive to people who support Notre Dame athletics. And no one is a better authority on stupidity than CubinNY.

Ohio State's DT Johnathan Hankins gone too. Seen him mocked to Carolina on WalterFootball for over a month now.

I know this is a joke but my mom asked me recently who Tim Brown's Heisman competition was in 1987 and I was shocked to see a Holy Cross player finished third. That's never happening again. weird i was just talking with my mom about who got third in the 1979 heisman race. It had been way too long since you chimed in on one of my posts. Thanks so much for your addendum

No kidding. Several stupid posts on my feed including someone saying Manziel got a DUI (I guess when people have an axe to grind they make up their own stories).

I know this is a joke but my mom asked me recently who Tim Brown's Heisman competition was in 1987 and I was shocked to see a Holy Cross player finished third. That's never happening again.

Bednarik and Maxwell make six. No college player has ever won more in one season.

That's not so much because of some grand conspiracy as because the Heisman has been ESPNized. Almost every year now someone wins by a gigantic margin because ESPN has taken to spending the last month or so of the season pimping somebody as the front-runner. The only times in recent years that haven't brought a giant margin are years like 2009 where literally no one stands out at all (except Suh, who was robbed, but whatever). Suh stands a good example of a much more dominant college player who couldn't reach the top three in the heisman. But Te'o is being held back because of the anti-ND bias. Right. I was actually going to add to that post that if Suh, who clearly had a more dominant season than Manti did, couldn't get it then obviously Manti won't. I think if Suh had won that year, Manti would have a better shot. I do think Te'o's effect on games is being undervalued because he doesn't have many sacks or TFL's in a defense specifically designed so that he won't get them, though. If ND didn't have a good front four, Te'o would have much better numbers in the 'sexier' categories. (Of course, if they didn't have a good front four, they wouldn't be 12-0 either.)

That's not so much because of some grand conspiracy as because the Heisman has been ESPNized. Almost every year now someone wins by a gigantic margin because ESPN has taken to spending the last month or so of the season pimping somebody as the front-runner. The only times in recent years that haven't brought a giant margin are years like 2009 where literally no one stands out at all (except Suh, who was robbed, but whatever).

Don't worry...the anti-ND bias in the media will prevent him from becoming one of the highest finishing pure defenders ever. Still waiting for all those pro-ND media members you were touting. Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser, who I have heard on multiple occasions say that college football is better if Notre Dame is good and that if Notre Dame went undefeated (this was when Bama, Oregon and KSt were undefeated) that they should be in the title game no questions asked. There's two prominent ones. I'm sure there are plenty others. Well, Wilbon has said several times he hates ND (and Michigan, though he says he also respects both). Then again, Wilbon picked Manti to win the Heisman yesterday over Manziel, so it clearly doesn't affect him much.

1. I don't pay enough attention to know who anyone's teams are outside of a few people. The ND/Big 10 lovers are all jumbled together in my mind since there are so many of you here. I do know that SSR has a huge hard on for me, for some unknown reason. 2. Plays with integrity? WTF does that even mean? The Heisman "annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity." Straight from the horse's mouth. If you don't like it, take it up with them. Lol, this may be the first time that anybody has actually cared about the playing with integrity clause in the Heisman mission statement. Within the last 10 years, the Heisman has been won by Cam Newton, Troy Smith and Reggie Bush. Did I miss the Troy Smith scandal? Didn't he take like $500 from a booster once and had to miss a game and a half or something in 2005? Not a huge deal but IIRC it was a big reason they lost to Texas, which ended up being the difference in who played in the national title game that year.

Rocket He lost a close vote to Ty Detmer. Not an egregious outcome (compared to many other votes in the last 25 years) Detmer was single-handedly losing a game literally as he was being awarded the Heisman and he was losing it to Hawaii. Then he submitted a gigantic turd in the bowl game to top it off. Maybe not egregious but certainly incorrect. I should note that I'm not arguing Rocket lost the Heisman because of ND bias (although I've read that there was some bitterness towards him because he was talking about leaving for the draft back when that was a big deal - though that's about him, not his school).

Because that's so much worse than the MAC/WAC/FCS non-conference Wisconsin has had for the last few years. No one's commended Wisconsin for the difficulty of their schedule is the difference there.

Rocket

Where are you seeing Hazell is official? edit: the only 'official' claim I've seen is from the Hammer & Rails blog which is a nutjob that filmed himself crying after Purdue lost a game last year and posted it to the web. I'm not sure where I saw it originally as done, but FootballScoop.com says it's done.

Hazell to Purdue official. Pete Thamel reporting Steve Addazio to BC (so McMurphy missed the boat there I guess).

Money, sees writing on the wall re: Urban Meyer at Ohio St, sees what Petrino did at Arkansas and thinks he can do even better. Also knows that in the SEC you can lose a game and win the national title, something the B1G can't do right now and who knows if or when they'll ever be able to do again, even with the 4-team playoff. I am very surprised he left Wisconsin, where he could've gone 9-3 forever and been a god, but there are certainly reasons to go.

Sensible move for both. Malzahn looks pretty smart for not taking that Vandy job now and gets a better SEC gig just two years later.

It'd be pretty hilarious if Wisconsin went after Paul Chryst now leaving Pitt to try to hire their fourth coach in three years. ETA: Bob Diaco might also be an interesting candidate considering how well Wisconsin's last hire of an ND defensive coordinator (Alvarez) worked out.

Yahoo's Pat Forde is reporting Bret Bielema to Arkansas.

BC finalists are Bob Diaco, Ball State's Pete Lembo and Saints assistant and former interim-interim coach Aaron Kromer, according to Brett McMurphy. So there's a 2/3 chance I'm going to be annoyed with BC at the end of this.

For Raisin and anyone else curious, StiffArmTrophy.com does a projection every year based on any amount of ballots made public they can find. They're up to 70 ballots right now and after the finalists, the most ballots anyone is listed on is 8 for Marqise Lee. Montee Ball perplexingly got a 1st-place vote from somebody and Barner hasn't been listed on any ballots yet.

Not official yet and I probably won't believe it until it is, but that's a great move by Arkansas if true.

They invite a certain amount between 3 and 5 based on vote totals. All projections have a huge drop-off from Klein (3rd place) to Lee (4th) this season.

Ingram won the closest Heisman vote in history that should tell you it was a pretty fragmented field. And yes, I think you transported him to ND '12 Teo is still getting a good deal of support considering Ingram had the most pedestrian numbers of basically any winner in a long time. And the McClain thing was to illustrate a point. We're not talking about just a difference in vote totals. We're talking about two guys who played the same position on similarly successful defenses. One guy didn't receive a single vote and the other is going to finish 2nd in the Heisman. That's partly a function of ND hype. How about illustrating the point that McClain was probably his own team's 5th-best player and ballots only contain spots for 3 people? McClain was a unanimous All American and won the Butkus. Cody and Ingram were similarly productive/lauded as McClain. To say that Jones and Richardson were is completely disingenuous. Richardson was better than Ingram, and that was being openly discussed before Ingram even won the Heisman, so I'm going to say it's not. The point is, the #1 team almost always has their best player as a Heisman candidate. If Golson or Riddick or Wood had gaudier numbers it'd be them, but they don't, so it's Te'o. Is he going to get more votes than another LB who was also the top-ranked team's best player would normally get because it's ND and because of his story? Probably. But the #1 team's best player has been mentioned as a Heisman candidate just about every year for forever. Just for fun, I looked it up, and every year since 2000, the nation's top-ranked team going into the bowls had a Heisman finalist, except for 2007, which was also the year every BCS school except Ohio State lost twice, and the nation's only unbeaten (Hawaii) had a Heisman finalist that year too.

Ingram won the closest Heisman vote in history that should tell you it was a pretty fragmented field. And yes, I think you transported him to ND '12 Teo is still getting a good deal of support considering Ingram had the most pedestrian numbers of basically any winner in a long time. And the McClain thing was to illustrate a point. We're not talking about just a difference in vote totals. We're talking about two guys who played the same position on similarly successful defenses. One guy didn't receive a single vote and the other is going to finish 2nd in the Heisman. That's partly a function of ND hype. How about illustrating the point that McClain was probably his own team's 5th-best player and ballots only contain spots for 3 people?