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Why the horsefeathers do the McCaskey's like Pace so much?

Isn't that 8-5 over this 13 game stretch of probable playoff teams?

It's obvious a house cleaning such as the Bulls did is in order for the Bears. Hire a GM, who in turn will hire a HC, etc. and like the Bulls, they'll figure what pieces are worth keeping and build around them. I know the right hires are out there, just don't know if the McCaskey's are capable of identifying them.

Don't know what more evidence is required to fire Nagy this very instance. Is there a more ineffective coach after a bye week than Nagy? I don't care they lost, in fact, its probably for the best they did but, the allowance of repeated late hits and cheap shots on Fields has to stop.

7 for 7 Do not think they'll be able to move the ball in such a manner against U of M, they'll score for sure, however, not in such a hot knife through butter manner.

If I'm not mistaken OSU has scored on every possession.

400+ yards of total offense thus far, really, what was the point of the Spartans punting? OSU is just going to take it and score again, where they start a possession doesn't matter. What not try to get a first down simply to keep the ball away from the OSU offense?

How about Ryan Day as a potential replacement for Nagy? Is that too far out there?

That launch a couple steps from the charity strip was awesome.

I knew the Spartans really had no chance of stopping the Buckeyes hell, they couldn't contain Purdue, even the lowly Illini held the Boilermakers down and probably should have won that game. But, I did believe the Spartans would score some points.

One rumor going around is that the Bears move Pace up in a director of football operations type of position and potentially hire a GM from within underneath him (Champ Kelly is a popular name here). Part of me really likes this idea. The Bears do actually have a decent scouting department and Kelly is well respected around the league and probably gets some GM interviews this offseason. If the Bears clean house, he won't be jobless for long. Part of me really likes this move. With all going on with a potential new stadium and all Pace has done for the off-field product (Halas Hall), I think some continuity could be a good thing. But also, wouldn't have him as the primary guy selecting his 3rd coach. Is that a legit rumor? I saw someone on twitter talking about this but it was written as if it was an idea they had and not something that was actually rumored. I know that the McCaskey family likes Pace a lot and I'll admit he's done a good bit to modernize the Bears football operations, but I just don't know how it changes anything if he's elevated. Does the new GM have full autonomy over the draft and player moves or would they be Jed to Ryan's Theo? At some point the Bears are going to need draft capital to build around Fields and I think Pace has done a poor job of using his resources efficiently. Because of that, it's hard to look at the Bears future and think that its in good hands with him running the show. He's done a poor jobs of managing resources and hiring head coaches what does that leave? Are these the primary responsibilities of a GM?

granted, that one is more important than like 95% of the rest of those combined. I wouldn't know. The Bears have never had that spot nailed down for a while now. If that isn't enough imagine a world where the Bears have the superior QB when facing the Packers, Vikings and Lions, its coming, the writing is in the wall.

Idk, I think Nagy would need to show success in the playoffs this year to stick around, at the very least make the playoffs Never underestimate the McCaskeys capacity to settle on mediocre leadership. Kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place - on one hand Nagy clearly is a terrible coach and should be fired immediately or sooner on the other, is the McCaskeys. They've not shown the ability to find and hire the right GM and HC, I used to think they do not care about winning. Someone suggested it's not they do not care, its they do not know how. On the plus side its beginning to look as if the most important piece is in place the QB. In terms of degree of difficulty the hardest part is done.

He clearly initiated contact with the player, this requires some action by the NFL, probably will not happen nevertheless, it should. In fact, Daniels was within the tight end block when he made an attempt at a block. Moreover, there was no contact on the play there's nothing to be judged contact either happened or not, its not a judgement call.

Lol that’s exactly what I said. Furthest thing from my mind was a FG attempt. Does he think he is in Denver and his kicker is Matt Prater? Not that we needed any more evidence of Nagy ineptitude at coaching however, we've got this and as mentioned earlier punting the ball down ten late in the 4th. He always makes the wrong decision, always.

Not I. The phantom clipping call that called back the TD was the difference in the game. Screw that, what about the missed roughing the passer on the next play? I don't care about the outcome in fact, this loss should help to hasten the firing of both Nagy and Pace, I do care about the multitude of targeting head shots and late hits Fields has taken. Just WTF are those officials looking at, oh wait I know, phantom illegal blocks. Fields grew again today, it's all there, next step is the McCaskey' getting their next iteration of GM and HC correct, something I do not believe they're capable of doing.

A-horsefeathering-men, it's about time, mediocrity is coming Packers and its name is Jordan Love.

He's playing behind a re-built OL and yes, something' not quite right. I know it's only a half but, I think its a safe bet to say the Packers' recent run on HOF QB's ends with Rodgers.

Not to mention the NFL has incredibly stringent rules for unvaccinated players in terms of masking, testing, contact tracing, interacting with the public and the media, etc. Well, stringent for all unvaccinated players except Rodgers, that is. He's a baaaad man.

turned it on for two minutes. some highlights: "coercion from owners for players to get vaccinated" "my body, my choice" "i'm only the 2nd non-vaccinated person to test positive" "people calling it a pandemic of the non-vaccinated is a total lie." "how come if the vax is so great, why are people still dying from covid?" "we don't know a whole lot about it (the vaccine)" EDIT: he's taking the horse medicine. Oh my God, so many logical fallacies in there. The intersection of logic and Rodgers is an empty set, I know he's an athlete and all but, this man went to Cal-Berkeley? The same place that has an affiliation with a Fields Medal winner and several Nobel Laureates including the 2020 Nobel Prize in Physics?

That's OK and when he does contact the virus I want the horsefeathers to follow through, don't rush to the ER with your tail between your legs, you're sick. Stay away, handle and take care of it on your own, pay the price for such wanton irresponsibility, ignorance and stupidity. rodgers has covid now. My mistake, messed that up, still, I stand by the message - want to be an anti-vaxxer, etc.? Fine, just don't go rushing for treatment, taking up valuable space, pay the price.

That's OK and when he does contact the virus I want the horsefeathers to follow through, don't rush to the ER with your tail between your legs, you're sick. Stay away, handle and take care of it on your own, pay the price for such wanton irresponsibility, ignorance and stupidity.

Reason #999,999,999 Pace needs to be removed as the Bears GM.

So, I just posted in the other NFL thread that the NFC is terrible re: Saints making it in. But really, the NFC is terrible. The Bears are behind the 8-ball with 5 losses, but they definitely can sneak in again as an 8-win ish team. LA, Arizona, GB, Tampa, and Dallas are for sure in the playoffs. Lions are for sure not making it. The other teams are: Saints- starting Trevor Siemien/Taysom Hill 49ers- always injured, Jimmy G better keep playing like yesterday or they'll be playing a rookie QB WFT- QB situation is a mess NYG- Daniel Jones is their QB, team is worst than Bears PHI- Jalen Hurts is their QB SEA- Geno Smith is their QB MIN- Cousins is solid, Bears have a shot to take care of them to get edge CAR- Sam Darnold is their QB ATL- Ryan is old and team is worse than Bears And these teams are fighting for 2 spots. Nobody on this list seems like a sure bet to coast toward a wildcard berth. None are probably winning a playoff game anyway, but in the Bears situation, they gotta try to compete. They don't have a 1st so they need to win as many games as possible to make that pick further down in the draft. I honestly don't think they will trade anyone. Even trying to pseudo compete, I would still try to trade Robinson, Hicks, and one of the QBs. If anyone gives anything for Foles, that's a no-brainer. I'd also give up Dalton for a decent offer, though I think he's a guy they could bring back as the #2 next year. Bears got dead money counting for him anyway, may be able to lower that for a guy that Fields seems to genuinely like and learn from. Hicks, to me, is just taking up space. He's not a big difference maker so far this year. They've had good games without him, bad games like yesterday with him. Give the reps to other guys (Nichols, Blackson, Tonga) to see how big of a role they can have in the future. Robinson is a completely different situation though. He's obviously not performing this year, but maybe not completely his fault. May be killing his ability to get a 3rd round comp for him with his non-production. I think he's looking at a 1-year deal if things keep going this way. So, you're maybe looking 4th or 5th round comp. And that's in 2023 anyway. If the Bears can even get a 4th in 2022 for him, they gotta do it. They only have 5 picks (2 difference making picks) next year, another would be nice. 2022 picks are WAY more valuable than 2023 at this point, given the cap issues and like 32 free agents on the roster. Agree, I am not expecting any trades even though I want them to happen. Robinson and Hicks seem like possibilities and should be traded if a trade is out there. I expect the team to keep everyone to try to be the 7 seed again. If all those trades in the original post were made the bears would have: 2022: 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7 2023: 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 7 But we'll end up with 2022: 2, 3, 5, 5, 6 2023: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 Pace said the team would be aggressive, so hopefully they don't trade more picks away to patch their holes The realistic plan is pretty clear - trade any non-building blocks of value for draft picks, play those young building block players now, focus on Justin Fields improvement, fire Nagy - all with an eye on 2023 being the year to start dominance of the NFC North. Rodgers will be history by then, think there's a real good chance both Packers and Vikings will be in downward spirals, 2023 the year to shoot for.

I agree with all the sentiments, what I do not understand is why try to cover it up? Such things always have a far more devastating effect when attempts are made to hide them, deal with them immediately. It'll be terrible but, not this bad.