Can the Cubs get J.D. Drew?

[wade]

J.D. Drew is an injury risk. He is currently recovering from three injuries. He is under Dodger control.

 

J.D. Drew, when healthy can produce .900 ish OPS. He bats left handed. He plays right field.

 

I haven't heard anything at all about the Dodgers not wanting Drew back, but does anyone think the Cubs could/ should try to make a trade for him? IF healthy, he is in my opinion the best player to solve several problems (OBP, vacancy in right field, left handed) for the Cubs.

 

I'm not very good at these trade proposals, but do any of you think the Cubs could throw quite a bit at the Dodgers, perhaps offering to "take Bradley off their hands", and get him? This is all off the top of my head, but I think he's owed 10 million over the next 3 to 4 years. Risky, I know, and the only reason I could see the Dodgers dealing him.

 

Thoughts?

 

Bradley

Walker

Lee

Drew

Ramirez

Murton

Barrett

Cedeno

[Magnetic Curses]

i love drew but i'll finally have to admit that he's an injury risk. if the dodgers absorbed a portion of his deal i would want him.

[RynoRules]

JD Drew = Glass Joe from "Mike Tyson's Punch Out".

[abuck1220]

i'd love to have drew. but the dodgers don't need anyone to 'take bradley off their hands.' for one, lots of teams (i'm guessing) would be willing to take him in a trade...it's not like he's got a terrible contract. secondly, if they want to get rid of him that bad they can just non tender him.

[wade]

i'd love to have drew. but the dodgers don't need anyone to 'take bradley off their hands.' for one, lots of teams (i'm guessing) would be willing to take him in a trade...it's not like he's got a terrible contract. secondly, if they want to get rid of him that bad they can just non tender him.

 

Agree about Bradley being cut, but I didn't know if the Cubs could say, "hey, we'll give you lots and you can get sort of get something for Bradley in this scenario" Really I'm trying to come up with a way to convince L.A. to trade Drew, as I don't know that they want to.

 

He's an injury risk. Big time. But, at this point I'm afraid the Cubs are going to have to do some serious dice rolling if they are going to be good next year. Going "safe" with Mench, or the like is just not a big enough impact.

[goonys evil twin]

i'd love to have drew. but the dodgers don't need anyone to 'take bradley off their hands.' for one, lots of teams (i'm guessing) would be willing to take him in a trade...it's not like he's got a terrible contract. secondly, if they want to get rid of him that bad they can just non tender him.

 

Agree about Bradley being cut, but I didn't know if the Cubs could say, "hey, we'll give you lots and you can get sort of get something for Bradley in this scenario" Really I'm trying to come up with a way to convince L.A. to trade Drew, as I don't know that they want to.

 

He's an injury risk. Big time. But, at this point I'm afraid the Cubs are going to have to do some serious dice rolling if they are going to be good next year. Going "safe" with Mench, or the like is just not a big enough impact.

 

I hear you on the dice role. The Cubs ignored the easy fix, and they failed on their primary target. It might come down to taking a big gamble on a guy like Drew. But, he would also have the right to demand a trade after a year. And if he gives the Cubs 150 games of 900+ OPS, whose to say that some team wouldn't be willing to offer more than the 3/33 he would have left on his deal.

 

I'd put a trade for Drew just behind a deal for Abreu, Dunn or similar on the priority list.

 

But an OF of Murton, Bradley and Drew could be awesome in 2006.

[wade]

How does the trade demand scenario work? I've seen with Vasquez, and the like, but I don't know the rules.

 

Based only on what I've seen lately, I thought only players on Arizona demanded trades.

[goonys evil twin]

How does the trade demand scenario work? I've seen with Vasquez, and the like, but I don't know the rules.

 

Based only on what I've seen lately, I thought only players on Arizona demanded trades.

 

What I believe:

 

If a free agent signs a multi year contract with a new team, and is then traded during that contract, he can respond by demanding a trade from his new team after the first season there, and if that demand is not met, he can become a free agent.

 

I'm not sure exactly when you have that right and when you lose it. For instance, Drew signed a 5 year deal. After 1 year on the Dodgers I assume he retains that right. But what if he was traded following year 3. Could he still demand a trade after year 4?

[AAApittsburgh]

How about Maggs? 4/60 doesn't look quite as bad as 5/75. I wonder what the Tigers would want for him.

[wade]

How about Maggs? 4/60 doesn't look quite as bad as 5/75. I wonder what the Tigers would want for him.

 

I thought about him too, but he's just as big of an injury risk, more expensive, right handed, and older.

 

I'd say his availability level is greater than Drew's though. Any way the Tigers throw in Carlos Guillen?

[wade]

How does the trade demand scenario work? I've seen with Vasquez, and the like, but I don't know the rules.

 

Based only on what I've seen lately, I thought only players on Arizona demanded trades.

 

What I believe:

 

If a free agent signs a multi year contract with a new team, and is then traded during that contract, he can respond by demanding a trade from his new team after the first season there, and if that demand is not met, he can become a free agent.

 

I'm not sure exactly when you have that right and when you lose it. For instance, Drew signed a 5 year deal. After 1 year on the Dodgers I assume he retains that right. But what if he was traded following year 3. Could he still demand a trade after year 4?

 

That fits with some of the requests I remember off hand. Regardless, I guess it'd be bad because of what they'd have to give up if he exercised after one year. Still, why would he want to be traded, he'd be playing for Dusty!

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Drew can actually play CF, in fact he prefers to because he believes it's easier on his body.

[ManEatingTarp]

JD Drew is the most frustrating player I've ever watched. He was to the Cards what Corey is to the Cubs.

[St.Paul Cub]

I hate JD Drew as a person, but if he could be a productive player, I'd probably consider him.

 

Problem is I think he's as injury prone as they come and that kind of coin for an injury-plagued player is beyond risky, IMO.

[goonys evil twin]

JD Drew is the most frustrating player I've ever watched. He was to the Cards what Corey is to the Cubs.

 

That is not a good comparison.

 

Drew actually put up good numbers, often, and has completely outperformed Patterson in their respective careers.

[CuseCubFan69]

I wouldn't mind Drew in CF and if the Cubs also got Lugo that would answer the leadoff question as well. If the Cubs have these guys I wouldn't mind a decent platoon in right.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The fact is, I don't know if the Dodgers are inclined to move Drew. They have their reasons for shopping Bradley, but I've heard nothing about them shopping Drew.

 

He could be available, and I'd definitely be interested if he were.

[wade]

JD Drew is the most frustrating player I've ever watched. He was to the Cards what Corey is to the Cubs.

 

That is not a good comparison.

 

Drew actually put up good numbers, often, and has completely outperformed Patterson in their respective careers.

 

What he said.

 

Patterson will not walk and strikes out a lot. J.D. walks a lot and strikes out a little.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

JD Drew is the most frustrating player I've ever watched. He was to the Cards what Corey is to the Cubs.

 

That is not a good comparison.

 

Drew actually put up good numbers, often, and has completely outperformed Patterson in their respective careers.

 

What he said.

 

Patterson will not walk and strikes out a lot. J.D. walks a lot and strikes out a little.

 

I don't think he was comparing #'s, he was comparing frustration levels. When J.D. came up he was suppose to be the next Mickey Mantle with his pretty swing. The fans perception is he wouldn't play through injuries and when he was out there he'd dog it. TLR felt he was content with being merely good even though he had the ability to be great.

[goonys evil twin]

JD Drew is the most frustrating player I've ever watched. He was to the Cards what Corey is to the Cubs.

 

That is not a good comparison.

 

Drew actually put up good numbers, often, and has completely outperformed Patterson in their respective careers.

 

What he said.

 

Patterson will not walk and strikes out a lot. J.D. walks a lot and strikes out a little.

 

I don't think he was comparing #'s, he was comparing frustration levels. When J.D. came up he was suppose to be the next Mickey Mantle with his pretty swing. The fans perception is he wouldn't play through injuries and when he was out there he'd dog it. TLR felt he was content with being merely good even though he had the ability to be great.

 

I still don't see the comparison. Patterson never put up the numbers. He showed brief glimpses, but then completey fell apart. It was a lot more than frustration, it was utter disbelief and a complete lack of faith in him being even remotely productive. A better comparison might be with Pirates fans and Ramirez, who had some numbers, was banged up and viewed as lazy/content, then left to have his best year in an opposing team's lineup.

[wade]

JD Drew is the most frustrating player I've ever watched. He was to the Cards what Corey is to the Cubs.

 

That is not a good comparison.

 

Drew actually put up good numbers, often, and has completely outperformed Patterson in their respective careers.

 

What he said.

 

Patterson will not walk and strikes out a lot. J.D. walks a lot and strikes out a little.

 

I don't think he was comparing #'s, he was comparing frustration levels. When J.D. came up he was suppose to be the next Mickey Mantle with his pretty swing. The fans perception is he wouldn't play through injuries and when he was out there he'd dog it. TLR felt he was content with being merely good even though he had the ability to be great.

 

But, that's still the point, For all but two months, Corey hasn't really even be good. :( So, our frustration is greater than yours.

 

Can't you let us win anything?

[CardsFanInChiTown]

JD Drew is the most frustrating player I've ever watched. He was to the Cards what Corey is to the Cubs.

 

That is not a good comparison.

 

Drew actually put up good numbers, often, and has completely outperformed Patterson in their respective careers.

 

What he said.

 

Patterson will not walk and strikes out a lot. J.D. walks a lot and strikes out a little.

 

I don't think he was comparing #'s, he was comparing frustration levels. When J.D. came up he was suppose to be the next Mickey Mantle with his pretty swing. The fans perception is he wouldn't play through injuries and when he was out there he'd dog it. TLR felt he was content with being merely good even though he had the ability to be great.

 

I still don't see the comparison. Patterson never put up the numbers. He showed brief glimpses, but then completey fell apart. It was a lot more than frustration, it was utter disbelief and a complete lack of faith in him being even remotely productive. A better comparison might be with Pirates fans and Ramirez, who had some numbers, was banged up and viewed as lazy/content, then left to have his best year in an opposing team's lineup.

 

Fair enough, the Ramirez comparison would be better.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Another comparison might be how Cubs fans feel toward Wood. If healthy, we know he has the talent and ability to be awesome, yet he's always fallen short of the goals we have for him, while at times living up to them as well.

[goonys evil twin]

Another comparison might be how Cubs fans feel toward Wood. If healthy, we know he has the talent and ability to be awesome, yet he's always fallen short of the goals we have for him, while at times living up to them as well.

 

That's a good comparison as well.

[ConstableRabbit]

How about Maggs? 4/60 doesn't look quite as bad as 5/75. I wonder what the Tigers would want for him.

 

I thought about him too, but he's just as big of an injury risk, more expensive, right handed, and older.

 

I'd say his availability level is greater than Drew's though. Any way the Tigers throw in Carlos Guillen?

 

Was he hurt for the first half of last season, or the second half?

 

He'll be 32 in January, for the record.