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Let's say:

 

15+ wins

3.1 ERA

.205 BAA

12K/9IP

4BB/9IP

205 IP

 

Does his option get picked up? Or do you let a guy with absolutely filthy stuff, yet inconsistency walk out the door?

 

If it's me, I put the word out that he's available via the right trade - burn me once shame on you, burn me twice shame on me, burn me a number of times with injuries and don't change your mechanics thereby providing no reliability I should be smacked up side the head if I don't explore trade options when his value is high.

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At $12 million+ in 2006, if the oft-injured esrstwhile Kerry has a Cy Young season, do you think he would take a paycut for 2007 and beyond?

 

He's overpaid now and the Cubs aren't going to pay him more money in the future. Trade him for anything, if merely to clear the salary drag off the books.

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For Cubzfan64 and CubbieRich,

 

I would be willing to bet my gonads that he will not waive his no-trade clause in the middle of next year, if he's pitching those numbers. 1) with Z and Prior as 1 and 2, we'll probably have a realiztic chance of making the playoffs if all 3 pitch to their potential, and I'm not worried about Z or Prior.

 

So in THIS situation trading is not an option.

 

My question is do you let him go without getting anything in return, or do you pick up the 2007 option - only two realistic choices if the above numbers are true.

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For Cubzfan64 and CubbieRich,

 

I would be willing to bet my gonads that he will not waive his no-trade clause in the middle of next year, if he's pitching those numbers. 1) with Z and Prior as 1 and 2, we'll probably have a realiztic chance of making the playoffs if all 3 pitch to their potential, and I'm not worried about Z or Prior.

 

So in THIS situation trading is not an option.

 

My question is do you let him go without getting anything in return, or do you pick up the 2007 option - only two realistic choices if the above numbers are true.

 

I apologize for not really answering your first question (and thank you by the way for not raking me over the coals for that as I've seen others do in other threads :-)).

 

It's a really really tough choice which is probably why you asked the question - hehe. I would say if he were able to post those numbers, odds are he would have to have been healthy for almost the whole season. If that's the case and I see little or no sign of arm problems throughout the season, go ahead and pick up the option (unless as someone else suggested we were to pick up another quality starter or find some "gem" in our minor league system).

 

The fact of the matter is (as all Cub fans know), when Kerry is healthy, he can be a #1 starter and as you mentioned, if he, Prior and Z are all healthy for a full season you really have 3 legitimate #1 starters for alot of teams.

 

The odds of your suggestion happening are slim afaic, but yes - in your scenario I pick up his option.

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If he performs at his 2003 level without any injury problems, the Cubs will pick up the option.

 

Will everyone here complain in 2007 then if he hits the DL :?

But how many will survive without a heart attack if the Cubs win the world series because Z, Prior and Wood all have career years in 2006?

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If he performs at his 2003 level without any injury problems, the Cubs will pick up the option.

 

Will everyone here complain in 2007 then if he hits the DL :?

But how many will survive without a heart attack if the Cubs win the world series because Z, Prior and Wood all have career years in 2006?

 

I'll still be in euphoria if the cubs win the world series. I think you have to consider the progression of young arms in making this decision. If Guzman becomes a prospect again, perhaps you let him walk. I personally think Wood is going to have a great second half of his career but much over $10 million is tough to risk.

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For Cubzfan64 and CubbieRich,

 

I would be willing to bet my gonads that he will not waive his no-trade clause in the middle of next year, if he's pitching those numbers. 1) with Z and Prior as 1 and 2, we'll probably have a realiztic chance of making the playoffs if all 3 pitch to their potential, and I'm not worried about Z or Prior.

 

So in THIS situation trading is not an option.

 

My question is do you let him go without getting anything in return, or do you pick up the 2007 option - only two realistic choices if the above numbers are true.

 

I believe the Cubs hold a buyout of about $3.5 million for 2007 and the Cubs should do that. They simply can not afford to pay him so much, especially for a #3 starter at best.

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If Kerry has a healthy 06 season he's definitely coming back - when he's on there's not much better in MLB - and I don't consider him a 3 man when he's healthy either. I think we have 3 aces!
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What do you think the chances of kerry having a Schilling type career. He seemed to really come into his own at 31 or 32. He had talent but could never seem to get it together until then. He really cut down on his walks and turned into one of the best pitchers in baseball. Kerry's walk totals are even higher than Schillings. If he could cut them down and the # of pitches he throws, could he trun into one of baseballs elite pitchers in the next couple of years?
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If he performs at his 2003 level without any injury problems, the Cubs will pick up the option.

 

Will everyone here complain in 2007 then if he hits the DL :?

But how many will survive without a heart attack if the Cubs win the world series because Z, Prior and Wood all have career years in 2006?

 

The possibility of that bolded section is the only reason I haven't completely given up hope for 2006. It would be very special to see all three of those guys perform up to their potential at the same time.

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For Cubzfan64 and CubbieRich,

 

I would be willing to bet my gonads that he will not waive his no-trade clause in the middle of next year, if he's pitching those numbers. 1) with Z and Prior as 1 and 2, we'll probably have a realiztic chance of making the playoffs if all 3 pitch to their potential, and I'm not worried about Z or Prior.

 

So in THIS situation trading is not an option.

 

My question is do you let him go without getting anything in return, or do you pick up the 2007 option - only two realistic choices if the above numbers are true.

 

I believe the Cubs hold a buyout of about $3.5 million for 2007 and the Cubs should do that. They simply can not afford to pay him so much, especially for a #3 starter at best.

 

If Kerry posts a 3.20 ERA, 11.35 K/9, and a 2.03 BAA in 32 starts, he'll be a lot better than a number three starter. That's ace material there.

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So What happens if Wood performs like he did 2001-2003?

 

Hell freezes over?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry that was trollish but I couldn't help myself. :wink:

 

[-X [-X Lol...terrible....and I was just beginnin' to like ya...

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What do you think the chances of kerry having a Schilling type career. He seemed to really come into his own at 31 or 32. He had talent but could never seem to get it together until then. He really cut down on his walks and turned into one of the best pitchers in baseball. Kerry's walk totals are even higher than Schillings. If he could cut them down and the # of pitches he throws, could he trun into one of baseballs elite pitchers in the next couple of years?

This is not gonna happen unless Kerry alters his mechanics to bring down the stress on his arm, and who knows if he's willing to do that?

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Can someone please tell me how Kerry is just supposed to "alter" his mechanics without any guidance from anyone? He should just tinker with his arm so it totally falls off? I for one don't want him changing his mechanics without someone who actually KNOWS something about it helping him.

 

This mechanics crap is going too far IMO.,

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Can someone please tell me how Kerry is just supposed to "alter" his mechanics without any guidance from anyone? He should just tinker with his arm so it totally falls off? I for one don't want him changing his mechanics without someone who actually KNOWS something about it helping him.

 

This mechanics crap is going too far IMO.,

Totally agree. Stone opens his mouth and everybody runs with it. It's like becoming left handed after being a righty your entire life.

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Can someone please tell me how Kerry is just supposed to "alter" his mechanics without any guidance from anyone? He should just tinker with his arm so it totally falls off? I for one don't want him changing his mechanics without someone who actually KNOWS something about it helping him.

 

This mechanics crap is going too far IMO.,

Totally agree. Stone opens his mouth and everybody runs with it. It's like becoming left handed after being a righty your entire life.

 

I agree as well!!

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