Do we have any interest in Rowand??

[WrigleyinEngland]

I know it might be a difficult match dealing with the sox but i wondered if hendry might look at this guy cos after all he can catch the ball!!! sorry couldn't resist.....

[USSoccer]

Do you really think the White Sox would trade him to us?

[RationalSoxFan]

Well he could be on the move, crazier things have happened.

[WrigleyinEngland]

would he be a good fit? what would the sox want?? I've read that they are looking for bullpen help not sure if we could help there......

[USSoccer]

would he be a good fit? what would the sox want?? I've read that they are looking for bullpen help not sure if we could help there......

 

It would probably cost Williams at the least. I'm not crazy about what Rowand brings to the table.

 

I'd look at many other options before Rowand.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Rowand's a decent CF. He had a great year in '04 that was BABIP driven, so don't expect that level of production, but he's good for around a .750 OPS and good CF defense. If the Marlins really are in a firesale, what about a 3 way deal?

 

Pierre to the Sox

Rowand and Castillo to the Cubs

Walker, Patterson, Nolasco, throw-in from Sox to the Marlins

[Mizzou]

Rowand's a decent CF. He had a great year in '04 that was BABIP driven, so don't expect that level of production, but he's good for around a .750 OPS and good CF defense. If the Marlins really are in a firesale, what about a 3 way deal?

 

Pierre to the Sox

Rowand and Castillo to the Cubs

Walker, Patterson, Nolasco, throw-in from Sox to the Marlins

 

You're always talking about BABIP. I suppose it's time for me to ask... what the hell does it mean and why is it significant?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Rowand's a decent CF. He had a great year in '04 that was BABIP driven, so don't expect that level of production, but he's good for around a .750 OPS and good CF defense. If the Marlins really are in a firesale, what about a 3 way deal?

 

Pierre to the Sox

Rowand and Castillo to the Cubs

Walker, Patterson, Nolasco, throw-in from Sox to the Marlins

 

You're always talking about BABIP. I suppose it's time for me to ask... what the hell does it mean and why is it significant?

 

BABIP is Batting Average on Balls In Play. Basically it's batting average without strikeouts or homeruns(something else minor too that I'm forgetting at the moment). It's significant because it's a basic measure of how "lucky" a player is. A player that has an extremely high BABIP one year(see Rowand in '04, Austin Kearns in his big year, Kenny Lofton last year) they are unlikely to do that again, especially if the rest of his career he didn't approach that mark(Bobby Abreu consistently puts up high BABIP's, he's proven that he has the ability to sustain that and isn't on a 7 year string of luck :P ). There are also ways you can determine what you would expect a player's BABIP to be, using line drive percentage, but those aren't as reliable since LD% isn't very stable year to year either. I'm terrible at explaining things like this, so maybe someone else can do it better, but that's the gist of BABIP.

[LuvChicagoSports]

The White Sox and Cubs have made plenty of trades previously. It's not as if the organizations are as opposed to each other as the fans are. Hendry even said the right team won the World Series this season.

[Backtobanks]

I started a post ("A New Idea") asking the same question the other day. Getting Rowand would not fit the role of a leadoff man which would mean getting Ichiro for RF, Furcal for SS, or Castillo or M. Giles for 2B (with Cedeno moving over to SS) to bat leadoff.

[Mizzou]

Rowand's a decent CF. He had a great year in '04 that was BABIP driven, so don't expect that level of production, but he's good for around a .750 OPS and good CF defense. If the Marlins really are in a firesale, what about a 3 way deal?

 

Pierre to the Sox

Rowand and Castillo to the Cubs

Walker, Patterson, Nolasco, throw-in from Sox to the Marlins

 

You're always talking about BABIP. I suppose it's time for me to ask... what the hell does it mean and why is it significant?

 

BABIP is Batting Average on Balls In Play. Basically it's batting average without strikeouts or homeruns(something else minor too that I'm forgetting at the moment). It's significant because it's a basic measure of how "lucky" a player is. A player that has an extremely high BABIP one year(see Rowand in '04, Austin Kearns in his big year, Kenny Lofton last year) they are unlikely to do that again, especially if the rest of his career he didn't approach that mark(Bobby Abreu consistently puts up high BABIP's, he's proven that he has the ability to sustain that and isn't on a 7 year string of luck :P ). There are also ways you can determine what you would expect a player's BABIP to be, using line drive percentage, but those aren't as reliable since LD% isn't very stable year to year either. I'm terrible at explaining things like this, so maybe someone else can do it better, but that's the gist of BABIP.

 

No, that makes sense, thanks. I have one more question and then I'll stop hijacking this thread. What's a player's BABIP in relation to his batting average? Typically higher?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Rowand's a decent CF. He had a great year in '04 that was BABIP driven, so don't expect that level of production, but he's good for around a .750 OPS and good CF defense. If the Marlins really are in a firesale, what about a 3 way deal?

 

Pierre to the Sox

Rowand and Castillo to the Cubs

Walker, Patterson, Nolasco, throw-in from Sox to the Marlins

 

You're always talking about BABIP. I suppose it's time for me to ask... what the hell does it mean and why is it significant?

 

BABIP is Batting Average on Balls In Play. Basically it's batting average without strikeouts or homeruns(something else minor too that I'm forgetting at the moment). It's significant because it's a basic measure of how "lucky" a player is. A player that has an extremely high BABIP one year(see Rowand in '04, Austin Kearns in his big year, Kenny Lofton last year) they are unlikely to do that again, especially if the rest of his career he didn't approach that mark(Bobby Abreu consistently puts up high BABIP's, he's proven that he has the ability to sustain that and isn't on a 7 year string of luck :P ). There are also ways you can determine what you would expect a player's BABIP to be, using line drive percentage, but those aren't as reliable since LD% isn't very stable year to year either. I'm terrible at explaining things like this, so maybe someone else can do it better, but that's the gist of BABIP.

 

No, that makes sense, thanks. I have one more question and then I'll stop hijacking this thread. What's a player's BABIP in relation to his batting average? Typically higher?

 

Yep, unless somehow a player had more Home Runs than Strikeouts.

[frostwyrm]

Rowand would be OK by me. We don't need a star, just a serviceable CF to fill the time before Pie is ready.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

Not interested in Rowand at all. Over-rated.

[JeffH]

Rowand's a decent player, but he's a bad fit for this team. Swings from the wrong side of the batter's box.

[rawaction]

Rowand's a decent player, but he's a bad fit for this team. Swings from the wrong side of the batter's box.

 

I could care less if the team was all RH, as long as they were good. The problem is Rowand almost walks by accident. A career best 32 in 600 trips to the plate this year. That's why he's a bad fit.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Rowand's a decent player, but he's a bad fit for this team. Swings from the wrong side of the batter's box.

 

I could care less if the team was all RH, as long as they were good. The problem is Rowand almost walks by accident. A career best 32 in 600 trips to the plate this year. That's why he's a bad fit.

 

I agree, if anything LH bat is worse because they are more susceptible to the platoon split.