Bruce Levine Reports on Hendry's Other Targets 11/11/05

[RynoRules]

Levine on ESPN Radio right now (paraphrasing follows):

 

Top priority is trade for Pierre.

 

Furcal is right behind that. Atl and Chi appear to be the only viable options for Furcal.

 

The Cubs could be close to something this weekend. Could be Pierre or McDougal. JH is also likely to talk with the Reds in the next 7-10 days re Dunn or Kearns.

 

Cubs may revisit Giles, but he's on the "back burner". Levine sees him as a two year option.

 

He made it sound like Nomar will not be back.

 

Levine thinks Hendry wants to "add and add".

Edited November 11, 2005 by RynoRules

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Dunn would be a very very good trade target.

 

Kearns, not so much.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Levine on ESPN Radio right now (paraphrasing follows):

 

Top priority is trade for Pierre.

 

Furcal is right behind that. Atl and Chi appear to be the only viable options for Furcal.

 

The Cubs could be close to something this weekend. Could be Pierre or McDougal. JH is also likely to talk with the Reds in the next 7-10 days re Dunn or Kearns.

 

Cubs may revisit Giles, but he's on the "back burner". Levine sees him as a two year option.

 

He made it sound like Nomar will not be back.

 

thanks for the info!

 

Pierre is the top priority over Furcal? That's new. Very interesting.

[rocket]

Levine on ESPN Radio right now (paraphrasing follows):

 

Top priority is trade for Pierre.

 

Furcal is right behind that. Atl and Chi appear to be the only viable options for Furcal.

 

The Cubs could be close to something this weekend. Could be Pierre or McDougal. JH is also likely to talk with the Reds in the next 7-10 days re Dunn or Kearns.

 

Cubs may revisit Giles, but he's on the "back burner". Levine sees him as a two year option.

 

He made it sound like Nomar will not be back.

 

thanks for the info!

 

Pierre is the top priority over Furcal? That's new. Very interesting.

 

and very stupid

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

[RynoRules]

Levine on ESPN Radio right now (paraphrasing follows):

 

Top priority is trade for Pierre.

 

Furcal is right behind that. Atl and Chi appear to be the only viable options for Furcal.

 

The Cubs could be close to something this weekend. Could be Pierre or McDougal. JH is also likely to talk with the Reds in the next 7-10 days re Dunn or Kearns.

 

Cubs may revisit Giles, but he's on the "back burner". Levine sees him as a two year option.

 

He made it sound like Nomar will not be back.

 

thanks for the info!

 

Pierre is the top priority over Furcal? That's new. Very interesting.

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I think that is b/c Furcal is an FA and therefore is likely to wait longer to make a deal, whereas he can trade for Pierre anytime he wants. My impression is that JH wants both, and won't wait if he can get one before the other.

[CuseCubFan69]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

[soapy]

Levine on ESPN Radio right now (paraphrasing follows):

 

Top priority is trade for Pierre.

 

Furcal is right behind that. Atl and Chi appear to be the only viable options for Furcal.

 

The Cubs could be close to something this weekend. Could be Pierre or McDougal. JH is also likely to talk with the Reds in the next 7-10 days re Dunn or Kearns.

 

Cubs may revisit Giles, but he's on the "back burner". Levine sees him as a two year option.

 

He made it sound like Nomar will not be back.

 

thanks for the info!

 

Pierre is the top priority over Furcal? That's new. Very interesting.

 

and very stupid

 

Join.

 

I'm not totally against Pierre (for the right deal). But him being a "top priority" is absurd IMO.

[BigbadB]

Why would he even remotely consider Kearns?

 

Lee, Ramirez, Barrett, Murton, Cedeno are the only current locks for the batting order. All right handers. If they get Pierre and Furcal, the only bats that hit lefty are top of the order guys. By the way, if they "did" get Kearns, you can forget about Cedeno over Perez at 2nd. Dusty will want to get another lefty in the batting order.

 

Not good.

[soapy]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

:puke:

[CuseCubFan69]

How does Kearns hit righties? If he does that really well I don't see that as being that bad. I want Dunn don't get me wrong but in a worst case scenerio if Kearns does hit righties it wouldn't be too bad. Now if he struggles with them....absolutely no way.

[rocket]

I'm well aware of that.

Chad Tracy put up a .912 OPS, is only 25 years old and has played over 50 games in the outfield. Would you trade Pie for him?

 

Straight up? Yes.

[hawkeyecub]

Adam Dunn last season put up a higher OPS than Felix Pie will ever put up in his career, minors or majors.

 

Of course you get rid of Pie for Dunn.

 

You also have to consider that Pie can play CF very well, has a different role in the lineup and will cost a fraction of the price for the next 5 years.

 

I agree with the general point, but I don't think it makes sense to look at it that simply. Morgan Ensberg put up a better OPS than Adam Dunn last year, but I don't think I would trade Pie for him.

 

how many consistent .900 OPS guys are there? Dunn is also younger than Ensberg.

 

I agree and again I'm not necessarily saying I wouldn't trade Pie for Dunn. I just think that their situations are too different to be compared based solely on OPS.

I guess here is what you would have to ask yourself. If you think Pie can be a consistent .800+ OPS guy playing a good CF while making a fraction of Dunn's price, is he worth more? To me he might be. By the time Pie would hit free agency and be making decent money, Dunn would be around 32-33.

 

Obviously Dunn is the sure thing and he might be worth giving Pie up for. I don't know if I think so. Pie has a lot of upside and I think he could be a consistent .850 OPS guy while being a very good center fielder and hopefully a productive base stealer.

[USSoccer]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

 

Maybe Cincinatti is the third team, and Pie (with Mitre) goes there in exchange for Dunn, Milton goes to Florida with us picking up salary, and Pierre comes here with Walker and Patterson going to Florida

[TheDude]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

No it doesn't.

[CuseCubFan69]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

 

Maybe Cincinatti is the third team, and Pie (with Mitre) goes there in exchange for Dunn, Milton goes to Florida with us picking up salary, and Pierre comes here with Walker and Patterson going to Florida

 

You just brought me down USS.

[CuseCubFan69]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

No it doesn't.

 

I hope you're right dude. If Hendry goes to the Fish and says he has Furcal locked up then he has leverage but if he is desperate to land Pierre than IMO Pie may be the one that makes this deal.

[USSoccer]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

 

Maybe Cincinatti is the third team, and Pie (with Mitre) goes there in exchange for Dunn, Milton goes to Florida with us picking up salary, and Pierre comes here with Walker and Patterson going to Florida

 

You just brought me down USS.

 

As in, I just made you feel worse?

 

I dunno, we give up Pie, Walker, Patterson and Mitre and cash and get Dunn and Pierre?

 

Hmm...that does seem like a lot to give up, on second look. Maybe substitute cash with a low level prospect.

[CuseCubFan69]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

 

Maybe Cincinatti is the third team, and Pie (with Mitre) goes there in exchange for Dunn, Milton goes to Florida with us picking up salary, and Pierre comes here with Walker and Patterson going to Florida

 

You just brought me down USS.

 

As in, I just made you feel worse?

 

I dunno, we give up Pie, Walker, Patterson and Mitre and cash and get Dunn and Pierre?

 

Hmm...that does seem like a lot to give up, on second look. Maybe substitute cash with a low level prospect.

 

I didn't see the Dunn part! :oops:

[USSoccer]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

 

Maybe Cincinatti is the third team, and Pie (with Mitre) goes there in exchange for Dunn, Milton goes to Florida with us picking up salary, and Pierre comes here with Walker and Patterson going to Florida

 

You just brought me down USS.

 

As in, I just made you feel worse?

 

I dunno, we give up Pie, Walker, Patterson and Mitre and cash and get Dunn and Pierre?

 

Hmm...that does seem like a lot to give up, on second look. Maybe substitute cash with a low level prospect.

 

I didn't see the Dunn part! :oops:

 

Would you give up those 4 plus cash to get Dunn and Pierre? Would you also give Nolasco to the Reds?

[wade]

I was gonna say, getting Pierre with Dunn would be pretty nice. Depends on the cash I guess, but at least the OF would be set.

 

Or would it? If they get Dunn, who plays RF? I still can't wrap my head around a Dunn deal not involving Murton.

[USSoccer]

I was gonna say, getting Pierre with Dunn would be pretty nice. Depends on the cash I guess, but at least the OF would be set.

 

Or would it? If they get Dunn, who plays RF? I still can't rap my head around a Dunn deal not involving Murton.

 

Why not? Cincinatti doesn't need Murton, and neither would Florida.

[CuseCubFan69]

Pierre the top priority? Not smart if true.

 

I agree and it smacks of Pie being a player in this deal.

 

Maybe Cincinatti is the third team, and Pie (with Mitre) goes there in exchange for Dunn, Milton goes to Florida with us picking up salary, and Pierre comes here with Walker and Patterson going to Florida

 

You just brought me down USS.

 

As in, I just made you feel worse?

 

I dunno, we give up Pie, Walker, Patterson and Mitre and cash and get Dunn and Pierre?

 

Hmm...that does seem like a lot to give up, on second look. Maybe substitute cash with a low level prospect.

 

I didn't see the Dunn part! :oops:

 

Would you give up those 4 plus cash to get Dunn and Pierre? Would you also give Nolasco to the Reds?

 

IMO the Reds are going to want 2 good pitching prospects like a Williams, Hill or Guzman.

[wade]

I was gonna say, getting Pierre with Dunn would be pretty nice. Depends on the cash I guess, but at least the OF would be set.

 

Or would it? If they get Dunn, who plays RF? I still can't rap my head around a Dunn deal not involving Murton.

 

Why not? Cincinatti doesn't need Murton, and neither would Florida.

 

Just from the Cubs side. Can Murton play RF? Or will they need to get another guy for right and Murton be 4th OF?

[USSoccer]

IMO the Reds are going to want 2 good pitching prospects like a Williams, Hill or Guzman.

 

But Pie would trump that, since it gives them a top prospect. They also shed a part of Milton's salary, which would be good for a team like the Reds. If we eat a lot of salary, they get Mitre. If we don't eat a lot of salary, we give them Nolasco. I think the Reds would be very happy with that haul for one mistake contract, and one guy who's gone after 2007.

 

The Marlins would take Milton to replace Burnett, and Paterson to replace Pierre. They also get Walker and have to chance to move Castillo.