Joe Morgan rears his ugly head

[Scott G. F.]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/2010AP_BBO_World_Series_Changing_Diversity.html

 

 

Says Astros have no bro's. Plays the race card willingly, with reakless abandon. Stupidity to ensure

[K-Town]

Where are our white spokesmen? Why aren't they asking basketball why an inordinate percentage of whites are being kept out of basketball?

[goonys evil twin]

I disagree with your interpretation. I don't think he's playing a race card. He's simply talking about a subject he's worked closely with for many years. Joe is one of the most vocal supporters of baseball's attempt to get more black kids involved in the sport. He's bummed that the number of black players has declined over the years. I see nothing wrong with him pointing that out and saying it's a shame.

 

I think he's a terrible tv analyst, writer and overall baseball spokesperson, but I see nothing wrong with what he's doing in this field.

[treebird]

I disagree with your interpretation. I don't think he's playing a race card. He's simply talking about a subject he's worked closely with for many years. Joe is one of the most vocal supporters of baseball's attempt to get more black kids involved in the sport. He's bummed that the number of black players has declined over the years. I see nothing wrong with him pointing that out and saying it's a shame.

 

I think he's a terrible tv analyst, writer and overall baseball spokesperson, but I see nothing wrong with what he's doing in this field.

 

He definitely seems to be saying that it's due to the lack of black players, not to the lack of interest in black players on the part of the Houston Astros. This is a fine article.

[Scott G. F.]

Just asking around the office. None realized the Astros had no blacks. One even was suprized baseball was still even going on.

 

Is it me or am nieve to the fact of the teams make up looking at black/white/hispanic etcc... I just look at talent and capability. why bring up the teams make up looking at race? I really don't get it.

 

Morgan is correct in that more younger blacks are going to other sports. Baseball doesn't have the instantanious payday other sport provide.

[rawaction]

I hate the phrase "race card". First of all, comparing race relations to a card game is bad enough. Secondly, have we come so far in race relations that even remotely mentioning that racism still exists is so outlandish? As I have said in many threads on many message boards, it has become more taboo to claim racism than to actually be racist.

[Scott G. F.]

I hate the phrase "race card". First of all, comparing race relations to a card game is bad enough. Secondly, have we come so far in race relations that even remotely mentioning that racism still exists is so outlandish? As I have said in many threads on many message boards, it has become more taboo to claim racism than to actually be racist.

 

 

Just like his analysis, this is wrong time and wrong place.

[rawaction]

I hate the phrase "race card". First of all, comparing race relations to a card game is bad enough. Secondly, have we come so far in race relations that even remotely mentioning that racism still exists is so outlandish? As I have said in many threads on many message boards, it has become more taboo to claim racism than to actually be racist.

 

 

Just like his analysis, this is wrong time and wrong place.

 

Why?

[K-Town]

I hate the phrase "race card". First of all, comparing race relations to a card game is bad enough. Secondly, have we come so far in race relations that even remotely mentioning that racism still exists is so outlandish? As I have said in many threads on many message boards, it has become more taboo to claim racism than to actually be racist.

 

It's become more common to claim it than to be it, too....... in many instances.

[rawaction]

I hate the phrase "race card". First of all, comparing race relations to a card game is bad enough. Secondly, have we come so far in race relations that even remotely mentioning that racism still exists is so outlandish? As I have said in many threads on many message boards, it has become more taboo to claim racism than to actually be racist.

 

It's become more common to claim it than to be it, too....... in many instances.

 

How on Earth could you possibly know that?

[K-Town]

I hate the phrase "race card". First of all, comparing race relations to a card game is bad enough. Secondly, have we come so far in race relations that even remotely mentioning that racism still exists is so outlandish? As I have said in many threads on many message boards, it has become more taboo to claim racism than to actually be racist.

 

It's become more common to claim it than to be it, too....... in many instances.

 

How on Earth could you possibly know that?

 

The same way that you know that what you posted is true. In other words, I don't know.

[Careless]

I'm amused because if someone like astacio or Taveras was American, he'd be considered "black".

[ConstableRabbit]

I didn't notice

[CuseCubFan69]

I'm amused because if someone like astacio or Taveras was American, he'd be considered "black".

 

I've always wondered why people that are dark in complexion are considered different things in different cultures or areas. Is being black not a possibility if your from the Caribbeen or South America?

[TheDude]

Goony is absolutely correct. This article has nothing to do with racism.

 

Now, had Joe Morgan claimed that MLB was actively suppressing interest/entrance into the sport for black athletes, or some other similar claim of MLB activity, then maybe someone can bring up racism.

 

But this is just a retired black athlete commenting on the state of his race/culture in the modern game after noticing the Astros are the first World Series team in over 50 years to not have a black player.

[TheDude]

I'm amused because if someone like astacio or Taveras was American, he'd be considered "black".

 

I've always wondered why people that are dark in complexion are considered different things in different cultures or areas. Is being black not a possibility if your from the Caribbeen or South America?

In the article, Joe Morgan is quoting as using the phrase African-American. In that context, it is pretty clear he is referring to American born black folks.

[YearofDaCubs]

I dislike Joe Morgan but his comments make a lot of sense and find nothing wrong with them. He does make a good point.

[Careless]

I'm amused because if someone like astacio or Taveras was American, he'd be considered "black".

 

I've always wondered why people that are dark in complexion are considered different things in different cultures or areas. Is being black not a possibility if your from the Caribbeen or South America?

In the article, Joe Morgan is quoting as using the phrase African-American. In that context, it is pretty clear he is referring to American born black folks.

You're right, it's the article's fault for using the word "black" instead of "african american" every time they're not quoting morgan.

[Careless]

I dislike Joe Morgan but his comments make a lot of sense and find nothing wrong with them. He does make a good point.

Just like I'm sure you'd see nothing wrong with some white guy bemoaning the fact that baseball isn't nearly as white as it was decades ago, I'm sure.

[YearofDaCubs]

I dislike Joe Morgan but his comments make a lot of sense and find nothing wrong with them. He does make a good point.

Just like I'm sure you'd see nothing wrong with some white guy bemoaning the fact that baseball isn't nearly as white as it was decades ago, I'm sure.

It depends on how it was directed.

[goonys evil twin]

I dislike Joe Morgan but his comments make a lot of sense and find nothing wrong with them. He does make a good point.

Just like I'm sure you'd see nothing wrong with some white guy bemoaning the fact that baseball isn't nearly as white as it was decades ago, I'm sure.

 

There would be a difference between crying that it's not all white, and crying that there aren't any whites.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'm amused because if someone like astacio or Taveras was American, he'd be considered "black".

 

I've always wondered why people that are dark in complexion are considered different things in different cultures or areas. Is being black not a possibility if your from the Caribbeen or South America?

In the article, Joe Morgan is quoting as using the phrase African-American. In that context, it is pretty clear he is referring to American born black folks.

 

I understand that. I was just wondering what makes a person black.

[Careless]

I dislike Joe Morgan but his comments make a lot of sense and find nothing wrong with them. He does make a good point.

Just like I'm sure you'd see nothing wrong with some white guy bemoaning the fact that baseball isn't nearly as white as it was decades ago, I'm sure.

 

There would be a difference between crying that it's not all white, and crying that there aren't any whites.

And?

[goonys evil twin]

I dislike Joe Morgan but his comments make a lot of sense and find nothing wrong with them. He does make a good point.

Just like I'm sure you'd see nothing wrong with some white guy bemoaning the fact that baseball isn't nearly as white as it was decades ago, I'm sure.

 

There would be a difference between crying that it's not all white, and crying that there aren't any whites.

And?

 

And what?

 

If some bigoted hick went on the air and complained that baseball isn't as white as it used to be, he'd basically be pining for the good ole' days of segregation, which would make him an ignorant bigoted hick.

 

Joe Morgan is bummed that fewer and fewer black kids, particularly inner-city youth, are getting involved in baseball. He loves the sport, and I think wants it to continue to grow and grow. And it seems clear to me that he thinks one of the best things for the sport would be to have more and more inner city teams with black kids playing the game.

 

I don't see the problem.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

My source closest to the Astros actually believes there is some truth to the notion that racism may exist in the Astros' front office.