Predict the Apology

[Mark_R]

To Scoiscia and the Angels from MLB about that call. What an embarassment in a game of this magnitude and the result.

 

Inexcusable.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Freaking ridiculous.

 

I hope those umpires are fired.

[Roast]

To Scoiscia and the Angels from MLB about that call. What an embarassment in a game of this magnitude and the result.

 

Inexcusable.

 

That was absoloutley horrible.

[CheeseHead Cubs Fan]

Nice to know things like that happen to other teams... :)

 

The media will blow this up something horrible...and it needs to be!

[E.J.]

I hate the idea of replay in MLB, but after that horrible call in such a big moment in a big game, I could see them bringing replay into the game. It's a joke that the umps got that wrong.

[Mark_R]

"The Umps were underpaid, and they saw Reinsdorf opening up the checkbook. BlackSox 2005, unfortunately is here, and its a sad sad day for baseball."

 

Bud $elig on Thursday afternoon.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Okay, this would kinda be unprecedented, but could they overturn the call at this point? The nature and time of the call(ending the inning) make me think that it wouldn't be unfair to do so. Especially when it's something as cut and dry as "The umpire made the 'out' sign, that means he's out".

[USSoccer]

This is up there with that call in the NFL a few years back where the Jets won and knocked Seattle out of the playoffs with a phantom TD. What an awful call. I cannot think of a worse call in a game of such magnitude.

[USSoccer]

Okay, this would kinda be unprecedented, but could they overturn the call at this point? The nature and time of the call(ending the inning) make me think that it wouldn't be unfair to do so. Especially when it's something as cut and dry as "The umpire made the 'out' sign, that means he's out".

 

There is precedent for a replay. The George Brett pine tar game was replayed after appeal.

[Chris]

Okay, this would kinda be unprecedented, but could they overturn the call at this point? The nature and time of the call(ending the inning) make me think that it wouldn't be unfair to do so. Especially when it's something as cut and dry as "The umpire made the 'out' sign, that means he's out".

 

Although I highly doubt MLB would do it, I was thinking the same thing.

[Roast]

Okay, this would kinda be unprecedented, but could they overturn the call at this point? The nature and time of the call(ending the inning) make me think that it wouldn't be unfair to do so. Especially when it's something as cut and dry as "The umpire made the 'out' sign, that means he's out".

 

I doubt they could, but it'd be nice.

[USSoccer]

Okay, this would kinda be unprecedented, but could they overturn the call at this point? The nature and time of the call(ending the inning) make me think that it wouldn't be unfair to do so. Especially when it's something as cut and dry as "The umpire made the 'out' sign, that means he's out".

 

Although I highly doubt MLB would do it, I was thinking the same thing.

 

No, there is precedent, and the Angels GM and President should be on the phone with the leage raising holy hell right now.

[Guest]

am I the only person on the planet that isn't convinced the ball didn't hit the dirt?

[bhogg]

This is up there with that call in the NFL a few years back where the Jets won and knocked Seattle out of the playoffs with a phantom TD. What an awful call. I cannot think of a worse call in a game of such magnitude.

 

 

Are you kidding? That was a GREAT call.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I'm a Jet fan :D

[Mark_R]

What I actually fear is that the league offices will back the umpires on their decision. They often do on controversial calls. And while it makes the league look inept, it shows they have faith in the (in this case idiotic) braintrust on the field.

 

Regardless of whether they are right or wrong.

[bhogg]

whether the ball hit the dirt or not isn't the issue.

 

the ump clearly signaled out. it's the same out call that 5 year olds recognize in tee ball.

 

the right thing to do is for MLB to pick the game up in the top of the next inning.

 

will they? hell no, they'll puss out like they always do.

[Roast]

Okay, this would kinda be unprecedented, but could they overturn the call at this point? The nature and time of the call(ending the inning) make me think that it wouldn't be unfair to do so. Especially when it's something as cut and dry as "The umpire made the 'out' sign, that means he's out".

 

Although I highly doubt MLB would do it, I was thinking the same thing.

 

No, there is precedent, and the Angels GM and President should be on the phone with the leage raising holy hell right now.

 

I cannot even immagine the words I'd be using if i was the GM/President of that team. Wow.

[Chris]

I remember cheering for the Orioles when that kid reached over the wall and pulled the ball over for a HR. Great times...

[USSoccer]

Okay, this would kinda be unprecedented, but could they overturn the call at this point? The nature and time of the call(ending the inning) make me think that it wouldn't be unfair to do so. Especially when it's something as cut and dry as "The umpire made the 'out' sign, that means he's out".

 

Although I highly doubt MLB would do it, I was thinking the same thing.

 

No, there is precedent, and the Angels GM and President should be on the phone with the leage raising holy hell right now.

 

I cannot even immagine the words I'd be using if i was the GM/President of that team. Wow.

 

I'd be citing the Pine Tar game that was replayed after the fact, the fact that the umpire called him out cleanly at the swing, without signalling the ball hit the dirt, and the fact that no replay shows the ball hitting the dirt. I'd file an official protest, as well.

[Chris]

If I'm the GM of the Angels I'm citing the fact that MLB has been preaching playing by the rules and being fair.

[Guest]

whether the ball hit the dirt or not isn't the issue.

 

the ump clearly signaled out. it's the same out call that 5 year olds recognize in tee ball.

 

the right thing to do is for MLB to pick the game up in the top of the next inning.

 

will they? hell no, they'll puss out like they always do.

 

According to AJ he didn't hear a verbal call from the ump that he was out, this is why he quit walking towards the dugout and ran to first. As a catcher if the ump doesn't call the runner out verbally do you really just throw the ball back to the mound and walk to the dugout?

 

I think this is a non-issue, there was no verbal out call, AJ ran to first and the Josh Paul should have tagged the batter.

[USSoccer]

whether the ball hit the dirt or not isn't the issue.

 

the ump clearly signaled out. it's the same out call that 5 year olds recognize in tee ball.

 

the right thing to do is for MLB to pick the game up in the top of the next inning.

 

will they? hell no, they'll puss out like they always do.

 

According to AJ he didn't hear a verbal call from the ump that he was out, this is why he quit walking towards the dugout and ran to first. As a catcher if the ump doesn't call the runner out verbally do you really just throw the ball back to the mound and walk to the dugout?

 

I think this is a non-issue, there was no verbal out call, AJ ran to first and the Josh Paul should have tagged the batter.

 

That's a good point, however, the umpire ruled him out twice. Once at the swing and once after the play.

[Guest]

whether the ball hit the dirt or not isn't the issue.

 

the ump clearly signaled out. it's the same out call that 5 year olds recognize in tee ball.

 

the right thing to do is for MLB to pick the game up in the top of the next inning.

 

will they? hell no, they'll puss out like they always do.

 

According to AJ he didn't hear a verbal call from the ump that he was out, this is why he quit walking towards the dugout and ran to first. As a catcher if the ump doesn't call the runner out verbally do you really just throw the ball back to the mound and walk to the dugout?

 

I think this is a non-issue, there was no verbal out call, AJ ran to first and the Josh Paul should have tagged the batter.

 

That's a good point, however, the umpire ruled him out twice. Once at the swing and once after the play.

 

Well maybe, I've seen many umpires make a fist for strike 1 and 2... is the batter out then? It's technically no-contact and a strike but the batter is not out. A fist just means a strike, and that's exactly what it was. It goes down as a K.

Edited October 13, 2005 by Anonymous

[Roast]

If I was the angels GM, My face would be as red as the hat I would be wearing.

[USSoccer]

whether the ball hit the dirt or not isn't the issue.

 

the ump clearly signaled out. it's the same out call that 5 year olds recognize in tee ball.

 

the right thing to do is for MLB to pick the game up in the top of the next inning.

 

will they? hell no, they'll puss out like they always do.

 

According to AJ he didn't hear a verbal call from the ump that he was out, this is why he quit walking towards the dugout and ran to first. As a catcher if the ump doesn't call the runner out verbally do you really just throw the ball back to the mound and walk to the dugout?

 

I think this is a non-issue, there was no verbal out call, AJ ran to first and the Josh Paul should have tagged the batter.

 

That's a good point, however, the umpire ruled him out twice. Once at the swing and once after the play.

 

Well maybe, I've seen many umpires make a fist for strike 1 and 2... is the batter out then? It's technically no-contact and a strike but the batter is not out. A fist just means a strike, and that's exactly what it was. It goes down as a K.

 

But he did not indicate that the ball had not been caught, which he has to do.