Looking forward to 4 roster changes between now and tomorrow

[CubsHawks25]

Nomar-Wood-Williamson get activated tomorrow, and now with Hairston's torn ligament in his elbow, that'll mean Corey gets called back up a few days earlier than expected.

 

In; Nomar-Wood-Williamson-Patterson. Out; Hairston-Cedeno-Wuertz-Mitre?

[Electron Blue]

Nomar-Wood-Williamson get activated tomorrow, and now with Hairston's torn ligament in his elbow, that'll mean Corey gets called back up a few days earlier than expected.

 

In; Nomar-Wood-Williamson-Patterson. Out; Hairston-Cedeno-Wuertz-Mitre?

 

That'd be my guess. Hairston's injury makes speculation easier.

[Gunned]

Oh, joy. I've really missed Corey.

 

After all that success down in AAA, he deserves to be back here.

[UBlink]

Greenberg says he's back at 100%, why don't they let Corey finish what he started at AAA and bring Adam back?

[MembersOnlyJacket]

I hope Hendry sends a message by designating Remlinger and Macias, but that isn't very likely (I think Rem being DFA at least has a very small chance of happening).

 

Out:

 

Hairston

Mitre

Cedeno

Remlinger

 

In:

 

Wood

Patterson

Garciappara

Williamson

 

There is absolutely no need for Remlinger in the bullpen.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Even with Hairston getting hurt, someone still has to be dropped from the 40-man with Williamson and Nomar coming off the 60-day DL.

[RyCubsFan]

Nomar-Wood-Williamson get activated tomorrow, and now with Hairston's torn ligament in his elbow, that'll mean Corey gets called back up a few days earlier than expected.

 

In; Nomar-Wood-Williamson-Patterson. Out; Hairston-Cedeno-Wuertz-Mitre?

 

Wuertz has pitched well lately. He even did a fine job in the 9th last night. He came in needing a strike out, and he got it. Wasn't his fault the game ended how it did. Remlinger should be released before Wuertz gets sent down. I'd send down Novoa before Wuertz as well. While Novoa in the long term has a higher upside than Wuertz, Novoa needs to work on control and on making his breaking ball more consistent. So I don't think Wuertz should be send down.

[radarluv1]

Even with Hairston getting hurt, someone still has to be dropped from the 40-man with Williamson and Nomar coming off the 60-day DL.

 

someone mentioned elsewhere here that guzman could be put on the 60 day. if he's been shut down for the year though, why didnt they already do this?

[CUBZ99]

Even with Hairston getting hurt, someone still has to be dropped from the 40-man with Williamson and Nomar coming off the 60-day DL.

 

Hairston won't get added to the 60 day DL? A torn tendon does not sound like the type of injury a player would come back in less than 2 months with, but I'm not a doctor, so I don't have a clue.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Even with Hairston getting hurt, someone still has to be dropped from the 40-man with Williamson and Nomar coming off the 60-day DL.

 

someone mentioned elsewhere here that guzman could be put on the 60 day. if he's been shut down for the year though, why didnt they already do this?

 

I'm pretty sure he's going to start pitching soon, although I don't know to what effect.

 

CUBZ99, you're probably right that Hairston will go to the 60-man.

[Blueheart05]

Greenberg says he's back at 100%, why don't they let Corey finish what he started at AAA and bring Adam back?

 

Because Corey is a superior defensive player and a power threat who's making 2.5 million (?). The team will want to get some production from him.

Edited August 5, 2005 by Blueheart05

[Blueheart05]

I hope Hendry sends a message by designating Remlinger and Macias, but that isn't very likely (I think Rem being DFA at least has a very small chance of happening).

 

Out:

 

Hairston

Mitre

Cedeno

Remlinger

 

In:

 

Wood

Patterson

Garciappara

Williamson

 

There is absolutely no need for Remlinger in the bullpen.

 

Wait, you want Macias to be designated? I understand he's a popular target but I dont think you're looking at this realistically. Macias is a switch hitter, he's hitting .296, and he can play multiple positions (All outfield spots, 3rd, SS, and second). I say he's a decent man off the bench. Conversely, Hollandsworth has been a major disappointment, with the exception of a couple of weeks in June, and can only play LF. If anyone is going to be D'FA it should be Hollandsworth (especially with the Lawton on the team).

 

My guess is that neither will be designated but Todd has largely been a non factor.

[treebird]

I hope Hendry sends a message by designating Remlinger and Macias, but that isn't very likely (I think Rem being DFA at least has a very small chance of happening).

 

Out:

 

Hairston

Mitre

Cedeno

Remlinger

 

In:

 

Wood

Patterson

Garciappara

Williamson

 

There is absolutely no need for Remlinger in the bullpen.

 

Wait, you want Macias to be designated? I understand he's a popular target but I dont think you're looking at this realistically. Macias is a switch hitter, he's hitting .296, and he can play multiple positions (All outfield spots, 3rd, SS, and second). I say he's a decent man off the bench. Conversely, Hollandsworth has been a major disappointment, with the exception of a couple of weeks in June, and can only play LF. If anyone is going to be D'FA it should be Hollandsworth (especially with the Lawton on the team).

 

My guess is that neither will be designated but Todd has largely been a non factor.

 

287 avg is nice, but a 303 obp is a 303 obp.

[Blueheart05]

I hope Hendry sends a message by designating Remlinger and Macias, but that isn't very likely (I think Rem being DFA at least has a very small chance of happening).

 

Out:

 

Hairston

Mitre

Cedeno

Remlinger

 

In:

 

Wood

Patterson

Garciappara

Williamson

 

There is absolutely no need for Remlinger in the bullpen.

 

Wait, you want Macias to be designated? I understand he's a popular target but I dont think you're looking at this realistically. Macias is a switch hitter, he's hitting .296, and he can play multiple positions (All outfield spots, 3rd, SS, and second). I say he's a decent man off the bench. Conversely, Hollandsworth has been a major disappointment, with the exception of a couple of weeks in June, and can only play LF. If anyone is going to be D'FA it should be Hollandsworth (especially with the Lawton on the team).

 

My guess is that neither will be designated but Todd has largely been a non factor.

 

287 avg is nice, but a 303 obp is a 303 obp.

 

Macias' average is .296 as of today (2 for 4 in the game)

 

For the record, Macias' OBP is a mesely .311 which is still better than Holly (.302).

[treebird]

I hope Hendry sends a message by designating Remlinger and Macias, but that isn't very likely (I think Rem being DFA at least has a very small chance of happening).

 

Out:

 

Hairston

Mitre

Cedeno

Remlinger

 

In:

 

Wood

Patterson

Garciappara

Williamson

 

There is absolutely no need for Remlinger in the bullpen.

 

Wait, you want Macias to be designated? I understand he's a popular target but I dont think you're looking at this realistically. Macias is a switch hitter, he's hitting .296, and he can play multiple positions (All outfield spots, 3rd, SS, and second). I say he's a decent man off the bench. Conversely, Hollandsworth has been a major disappointment, with the exception of a couple of weeks in June, and can only play LF. If anyone is going to be D'FA it should be Hollandsworth (especially with the Lawton on the team).

 

My guess is that neither will be designated but Todd has largely been a non factor.

 

287 avg is nice, but a 303 obp is a 303 obp.

 

Macias' average is .296 as of today (2 for 4 in the game)

 

For the record, Macias' OBP is a mesely .311 which is still better than Holly (.302).

 

Holla's only been marginally better than Macias this year, yes. But if you look at career numbers, there's no way you decide to cut him instead of Macias.

[Blueheart05]

I hope Hendry sends a message by designating Remlinger and Macias, but that isn't very likely (I think Rem being DFA at least has a very small chance of happening).

 

Out:

 

Hairston

Mitre

Cedeno

Remlinger

 

In:

 

Wood

Patterson

Garciappara

Williamson

 

There is absolutely no need for Remlinger in the bullpen.

 

Wait, you want Macias to be designated? I understand he's a popular target but I dont think you're looking at this realistically. Macias is a switch hitter, he's hitting .296, and he can play multiple positions (All outfield spots, 3rd, SS, and second). I say he's a decent man off the bench. Conversely, Hollandsworth has been a major disappointment, with the exception of a couple of weeks in June, and can only play LF. If anyone is going to be D'FA it should be Hollandsworth (especially with the Lawton on the team).

 

My guess is that neither will be designated but Todd has largely been a non factor.

 

287 avg is nice, but a 303 obp is a 303 obp.

 

Macias' average is .296 as of today (2 for 4 in the game)

 

For the record, Macias' OBP is a mesely .311 which is still better than Holly (.302).

 

Holla's only been marginally better than Macias this year, yes. But if you look at career numbers, there's no way you decide to cut him instead of Macias.

 

Career numbers mean nothing. In sports, the prevailing question is "what have you done for me lately?" Using that same logic, I can make a strong argument for why Mike Remlinger should remain on the team. Afterall, he's a former All-Star left handed reliever with a plethora of experience; including divisional races and the playoffs. Yet, he probably has one foot out the door already... The Cubs would not miss Hollandsworth but they would miss Macias (mostly because he can play a variety of positions on a team that is largely overworked and injuried on the corners) Being a switch hitter also helps his cause.

[hawkeyecub]

And there's nothing wrong with a .296/.311 line out of your 25th man who has only the 12th most AB's on the team.

He can play 2B, 3B, all OF spots and is the emergency catcher.

He rarely starts but when he has, he's 21-62 for a .339 average and .359 OBP.

 

He's had far fewer AB's than most around here say he has and he's had a good season for the role he fills this year, which is clear when you look at the numbers he's put up. He ranks very low on the list of problems on this year's team.

 

The level of dislike for Macias on this board is ridiculous. Look at his numbers this year and compare them to other 25th men who can play as many positions as he can. I'm pretty sure Jose stacks up favorably against nearly all of them.

[TXCubsFan]

And there's nothing wrong with a .296/.311 line out of your 25th man who has only the 12th most AB's on the team.

He can play 2B, 3B, all OF spots and is the emergency catcher.

He rarely starts but when he has, he's 21-62 for a .339 average and .359 OBP.

 

He's had far fewer AB's than most around here say he has and he's had a good season for the role he fills this year, which is clear when you look at the numbers he's put up. He ranks very low on the list of problems on this year's team.

 

The level of dislike for Macias on this board is ridiculous. Look at his numbers this year and compare them to other 25th men who can play as many positions as he can. I'm pretty sure Jose stacks up favorably against nearly all of them.

 

Macias is not a problem. I like Macias's attitude and hustle. What is is the problem is that Dusty uses him instead of Murton, Cedeno, or other younger players who need ABs to develop.

 

Macias is to Dusty is what a bottle of gin is to an alcoholic.

[E.J.]

Greenberg says he's back at 100%, why don't they let Corey finish what he started at AAA and bring Adam back?

 

I agree. Let Corey keep working on getting his swing shortened down in AAA and bring up Greenberg. Give him a shot. He's not going to do any worse than Hairston was doing. I'd just rather have Corey keep working on fixing his problems than bringing him up already.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

And there's nothing wrong with a .296/.311 line out of your 25th man who has only the 12th most AB's on the team.

He can play 2B, 3B, all OF spots and is the emergency catcher.

He rarely starts but when he has, he's 21-62 for a .339 average and .359 OBP.

 

He's had far fewer AB's than most around here say he has and he's had a good season for the role he fills this year, which is clear when you look at the numbers he's put up. He ranks very low on the list of problems on this year's team.

 

The level of dislike for Macias on this board is ridiculous. Look at his numbers this year and compare them to other 25th men who can play as many positions as he can. I'm pretty sure Jose stacks up favorably against nearly all of them.

 

For all the talk about his batting average, he's still got a 660 OPS. Going by RC/G, I took a look at NL players with at least 100 PAs(Macias has 106) that are worse than Macias. They are as follows:

 

Chris Snyder C

Raul Mondesi(released just under 2 months ago) OF

Dustan Mohr OF

Danny Ardoin C

Jason Grabowski OF

Chad Moeller C

Yorvit Torrealba C

Marquis Grissom(DFA'd after the deadline) OF

Cristian Guzman SS

 

So, you have 4 backup catchers, 2 outfielders, and the worthless Guzman as the NL players worse than Macias. I think we could do better, Mike Fontenot is only a phone call away.

[hawkeyecub]

And there's nothing wrong with a .296/.311 line out of your 25th man who has only the 12th most AB's on the team.

He can play 2B, 3B, all OF spots and is the emergency catcher.

He rarely starts but when he has, he's 21-62 for a .339 average and .359 OBP.

 

He's had far fewer AB's than most around here say he has and he's had a good season for the role he fills this year, which is clear when you look at the numbers he's put up. He ranks very low on the list of problems on this year's team.

 

The level of dislike for Macias on this board is ridiculous. Look at his numbers this year and compare them to other 25th men who can play as many positions as he can. I'm pretty sure Jose stacks up favorably against nearly all of them.

 

Macias is not a problem. I like Macias's attitude and hustle. What is is the problem is that Dusty uses him instead of Murton, Cedeno, or other younger players who need ABs to develop.

 

Macias is to Dusty is what a bottle of gin is to an alcoholic.

 

He's 12th in at bats on the team this year. He isn't used nearly as often as most think.

Murton has 35 AB's in 18 games, Cedeno has 52 AB's in 29 games and Macias has 94 AB's in 69 games.

 

When Macias played a corner OF spot, Murton wasn't up yet. I suppose you could say he's taken some AB's from Cedeno playing 2B, but he only has 16 AB's as a second baseman.

He's appeared as a pinch-hitter in roughly 1/3 of our games, and many of those have come in the middle innings.

[treebird]

I'll agree that the biggest problem with Macias is his usage, but that only supports the need to get rid of him. Does anyone think that Fontenot would be Dusty's clutch pinch hit bat off the bench if we lost Macias and brought him up?

[hawkeyecub]

I think we could do better, Mike Fontenot is only a phone call away.

 

Sure we could do better, we could do better in a number of spots. But like I said, Macias is 12th in AB's on this team despite being here the full year. In the 100 plate appearances he's had, he has a .296 average with .311 OBP. That's certainly acceptable for a 25th man and definitely not a significant problem for this team. He also wouldn't have had that many AB's if Aramis, Walker and Nomar had been healthy. He wouldn't be at 85 plate appearances if those guys hadn't been injured.

People think that sending off Macias will be a major accomplishment and help to this team. It won't.

 

Can Fontenot play 2B, 3B, all 3 OF spots and be an emergency catcher? Even if it hardly ever or never comes up, every team has to have an emergency catcher. Because if it does come up and you don't have one, it's an absolute disaster.

[treebird]

Can Fontenot play 2B, 3B, all 3 OF spots and be an emergency catcher? Even if it hardly ever or never comes up, every team has to have an emergency catcher. Because if it does come up and you don't have one, it's an absolute disaster.

 

if the tradeoff was that we could have fontenot instead of macias, but if the situation came up where we had to forfeit a game due to need of a third catcher due to injury, id still get rid of macias. when's the last time we needed a third catcher? do we have a fourth catcher? anytime we'd need a third catcher, it'd probably be in extra innings, and macias undoubtedly would've already botched an important pinch hitting opportunity earlier in the game. if macias is so valuable as a third catcher, does that mean we should never use him, just in case we should need him in the bottom of the 14th?

[treebird]

Career numbers mean nothing. In sports, the prevailing question is "what have you done for me lately?" Using that same logic, I can make a strong argument for why Mike Remlinger should remain on the team. Afterall, he's a former All-Star left handed reliever with a plethora of experience; including divisional races and the playoffs. Yet, he probably has one foot out the door already... The Cubs would not miss Hollandsworth but they would miss Macias (mostly because he can play a variety of positions on a team that is largely overworked and injuried on the corners) Being a switch hitter also helps his cause.

 

Do you really believe this? that a player's most recent 150 at bats are more important than everything else he's ever done put together? Remlinger is a bad example because he's 47 years old and obviously not any good. Hollandsworth may have had better days behind him, but Macias is 33 himself.