Confirmed - Rafael Palmiero tests positive.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

MLB finally nailed the high profile guy they've been looking for. Expect more news coverage of this than there should be. They want to make an example of him to show the policy works.

[E.J.]

I am leaving the thread title as is until either mods see fit, or it is truly confirmed by MLB.

 

ESPN has it on the front page now. I think it's pretty much a sure thing.

[Guest]

Maybe he was the victim of a false positive.

 

Could Viagra s show up as a steroid in a urine test? ;)

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

I just lost a TON of respect for Raffy. I always thought he was one of the game's good guys. Now I see that almost everyone has skeletons in their closet.

[Elrhino]

It just came down from ESPN, suspended for steroids.

[wekse]

i wonder if there isn't some sort of "steroid" in viagra?

[E.J.]

I guess we can expect about 3 straight weeks of steroid talk now. :x

[ctcf]

Raffy is done. I wonder if he gets jail time.

[sethuel1]

SI.com has it.

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/08/01/steroids.suspension/index.html

[sethuel1]

i wonder if there isn't some sort of "steroid" in viagra?

Nope. Close but no cigar.

 

http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/local/projects/p_hazel/structure2.html

[erik316wttn]

Maybe he was the victim of a false positive.

 

Could Viagra s show up as a steroid in a urine test? ;)

 

I think, regardless of what the first reading is, they run a second test on his sample to make sure they have the right result.

[ToupeeOnFire]

i wonder if there isn't some sort of "steroid" in viagra?

 

No, but a side effect of steroids is sexual disfunction.

[wekse]

i wonder if there isn't some sort of "steroid" in viagra?

Nope. Close but no cigar.

 

http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/local/projects/p_hazel/structure2.html

 

i was just joking anyway, heh.

[ctcf]

Maybe he was the victim of a false positive.

 

Could Viagra s show up as a steroid in a urine test? ;)

 

I think, regardless of what the first reading is, they run a second test on his sample to make sure they have the right result.

 

How would we know how many tests they ran?

[JGalt73]

The Orioles broadcast is on MLB.TV, and I'm finding it interesting that they have not said a word yet - even when announcing the lineups...

 

...o.k. just announced it...

Edited August 1, 2005 by JGalt73

[erik316wttn]

i wonder if there isn't some sort of "steroid" in viagra?

 

No, but a side effect of steroids is sexual disfunction.

 

So THAT'S why he needs it.

[erik316wttn]

Maybe he was the victim of a false positive.

 

Could Viagra s show up as a steroid in a urine test? ;)

 

I think, regardless of what the first reading is, they run a second test on his sample to make sure they have the right result.

 

How would we know how many tests they ran?

 

We don't, but I think I heard that they run at least 2 tests on every sample, just to eliminate any sort of error. Granted, with these tests a false positive is rare, but just in case a player would have a false positive the first try, I think they'd be grateful for that second or third test.

[wXw]

This is kinda sad. I always dug Raffy. A part of me used to wish we would have kept him.

 

Side note:

 

Imagine the type of hitter Mark Grace would have been had he juiced? Wow...

[WindyCity]

So what exactly is the punishment if he is now found to have lied to Congress? Jail time? Fines?

 

Raffy has to be a complete idiot to think he could continue to take a banned substance and get away with it -- I guess he didn't care if his legacy was ruined.

[CuseCubFan69]

What are Raffy's stats in the last month. I'm just wondering if he was struggling and went the quick route to "success".

 

Again, does anyone know how long this stuff stays in your system?

[erik316wttn]

So what exactly is the punishment if he is now found to have lied to Congress? Jail time? Fines?

 

Raffy has to be a complete idiot to think he could continue to take a banned substance and get away with it -- I guess he didn't care if his legacy was ruined.

 

That could be some serious jail time. Perjury in court is a 20-year sentence, IIRC, but I don't know what it is if you lie to Congress. Will Congress even go after him?

[wXw]

So what exactly is the punishment if he is now found to have lied to Congress? Jail time? Fines?

 

Raffy has to be a complete idiot to think he could continue to take a banned substance and get away with it -- I guess he didn't care if his legacy was ruined.

 

Now the question is... did he just juice away his hall of fame shot. He's certainly not first ballot after this.

[wastra]

I gotta think his HoF chances just died. there were already many sportswriters who didn't think he was HoF worthy. This is just gasoline on the fire.

[erik316wttn]

So what exactly is the punishment if he is now found to have lied to Congress? Jail time? Fines?

 

Raffy has to be a complete idiot to think he could continue to take a banned substance and get away with it -- I guess he didn't care if his legacy was ruined.

 

Now the question is... did he just juice away his hall of fame shot. He's certainly not first ballot after this.

 

Yeah, he was borderline in the writer's minds to begin with.

 

I guess this gives more crediblitiy to all of Canseco's claims from a while back.

Edited August 1, 2005 by erik316wttn

[GORDO]

What are Raffy's stats in the last month. I'm just wondering if he was struggling and went the quick route to "success".

 

Again, does anyone know how long this stuff stays in your system?

 

Steriod detection times vary, but I heard the longest time is 18 months.