7/30 D'Backs(Gosling) @ Cubs (Hill) 3:05 CT, WGN

[LetsPlayTwo]

Woot! Let's keep this momentum going!

[ctcf]

ANOTHER MURTON START!

 

WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Omar]

Noteworthy Match-ups (Arizona Diamondbacks) Vs. Rich Hill (RHP, 0-0 with 4.22 ERA)

No current D'back has ever faced Hill in the regular/post season.

 

Noteworthy Match-ups (Chicago Cubs) Vs. Mike Gosling (LHP, 0-2 with 4.13 ERA)

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Prediction based on Match-ups: No decision. 8 Abs is not enough against Gosling..

 

PBOM Record: 6-3

[otis89]

ANOTHER MURTON START!

 

WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Says who?! Great if it's true! :shock: :D

[Roast]

Try winning it before the last second this time, losers.

[Blueheart05]

Just win!

[Fred Hornkohl]

Worthless stats of the day for Saturday.....

 

CUBS are 8-8 on Saturdays

CUBS are 2-3 vs. Arizona

CUBS are 28-26 in the day time.

CUBS are 27-24 at home.

CUBS are 31-20 when they've won the previous game.... 21-30 after a loss

CUBS are 32-14 when they score first,.... 21-36 when they don't

CUBS are 15-5 when they score in the first inning,... 38-45 when they don't

CUBS have been outscored 49-38 in the first inning..... outscored 38-32 in the 9th

CUBS are 18-8 when Derrek Lee hits at least 1 HR.... 35-42 when he doesn't

CUBS are 21-14 when their pitchers' get at least 1 hit.... 32-36 when they don't

CUBS are 43-20 when they throw less than 17 pitches per inning.... 10-30 when they don't

CUBS are 27-17 when they see at least 3.7 Pit/PA.... 26-33 when they don't

CUBS are 17-14 in one run games, 8-5 in two run games.

 

CUBS are 1-0 when Hill starts

Hill is 0 of 1 in quality starts

Hill's ERA pitching to Barrett is 3.60.... Hill has not pitched to Blanco.

CUBS score 4.57 R/G overall.... 3.00 R/G when Hill pitches

CUBS hit 1.31 HR/G overall.... 0.33 HR/G when Hill pitches

 

CUBS' offensive support of Hill.....

 

04/04 - 07/29      AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
CUBS w/Hill        35    3   12    0    0    1   15    3    2    5  0.343  0.385  0.429  0.813
CUBS overall     3575  471  979  210   16  135 1626  452  273  594  0.274  0.329  0.455  0.784

 

Hill's one previous start.....

 

Hill              IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR   PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
07/25 vs. S.F.   5.0    5    2    2    2    5    1   98  3.60  9.00  1.80  1.40  3.60

 

Hill's splits.....

 

Hill              IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR   PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Home             6.0    8    4    4    2    7    1  127  3.00 10.50  1.50  1.67  6.00
Road             4.7    0    1    1    3    7    0   74  5.79 13.50  0.00  0.64  1.93

Day              1.3    3    3    3    1    3    0   37  6.75 20.25  0.00  3.00 20.25
Nite             9.3    5    2    2    4   11    1  164  3.86 10.61  0.96  0.96  1.93

season totals   10.7    8    5    5    5   14    1  201  4.22 11.81  0.84  1.22  4.22

 

CUBS' season series vs. Arizona.....

 

Gm#    Date       Opponent         Score  Starter
 1  Mon 04/04  @ Arizona          16- 6  Zambrano      
 2  Tue 04/05  @ Arizona       N   4- 5  Maddux        
 3  Wed 04/06  @ Arizona       N   3- 8  Dempster      
102  Thu 07/28    Arizona           0- 6  Williams      
103  Fri 07/29    Arizona           4- 3  Prior        
104  Sat 07/30    Arizona            -    Hill        
105  Sun 07/31    Arizona            -    Maddux        

 

CUBS' hitters vs. Arizona.....

 

CUBS           AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Blanco          2    1    2    0    0    1    5    2    1    0  1.000  1.000  2.500  3.500
Gerut           1    0    1    1    0    0    2    0    1    0  1.000  1.000  2.000  3.000
Dubois          1    1    1    0    0    0    1    0    0    0  1.000  1.000  1.000  2.000
Murton          5    0    2    0    1    0    4    0    0    0  0.400  0.400  0.800  1.200
Lee            19    4    7    2    0    1   12    5    3    4  0.368  0.455  0.632  1.086
Walker         15    2    7    1    0    0    8    1    2    0  0.467  0.529  0.533  1.063
Barrett        18    1    6    2    0    1   11    5    0    1  0.333  0.333  0.611  0.944
Macias          6    2    2    1    0    0    3    0    1    0  0.333  0.429  0.500  0.929
Hollandsworth  13    2    4    1    0    1    8    3    0    3  0.308  0.308  0.615  0.923
Ramirez        15    4    4    1    0    1    8    5    3    5  0.267  0.389  0.533  0.922
Patterson      14    3    5    0    0    0    5    2    1    3  0.357  0.400  0.357  0.757
Burnitz        21    3    6    2    0    0    8    0    1    7  0.286  0.318  0.381  0.699
Garciaparra    14    2    2    0    0    0    2    3    0    2  0.143  0.143  0.143  0.286
Hairston        9    0    1    0    0    0    1    0    0    0  0.111  0.111  0.111  0.222
Perez          10    0    1    0    0    0    1    0    0    0  0.100  0.100  0.100  0.200
Cedeno          4    1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    2  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000

vs. Ariz      179   27   53   12    1    5   82   26   13   30  0.296  0.344  0.458  0.802

overall      3575  471  979  207   16  130 1608  452  273  593  0.274  0.329  0.450  0.779

 

CUBS' pitchers vs. Arizona.....

 

CUBS         IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Bartosh     2.0    0    0    0    1    1    0    29  4.50  4.50  0.00  0.50  0.00
Remlinger   2.0    1    0    0    0    3    0    28  0.00 13.50  0.00  0.50  0.00
Novoa       1.3    0    0    0    0    2    0    21  0.00 13.50  0.00  0.00  0.00
Leicester   1.0    1    0    0    1    1    0    17  9.00  9.00  0.00  2.00  0.00
Fox         1.0    0    0    0    0    1    0    11  0.00  9.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
Williams    5.3    7    1    1    4    5    1   122  6.75  8.44  1.69  2.06  1.69
Prior       7.3    7    3    3    2    8    0   119  2.45  9.82  0.00  1.23  3.68
Rusch       3.7    4    2    2    4    3    0    69  9.82  7.36  0.00  2.18  4.91
Zambrano    4.7    7    3    3    4    8    1   106  7.71 15.43  1.93  2.36  5.79
Maddux      5.0    6    5    5    1    6    2    84  1.80 10.80  3.60  1.40  9.00
Wuertz      3.0    4    3    3    4    4    0    70 12.00 12.00  0.00  2.67  9.00
Wellemeyer  1.0    3    1    1    0    1    0    18  0.00  9.00  0.00  3.00  9.00
Hawkins     1.0    1    1    1    0    1    1    16  0.00  9.00  9.00  1.00  9.00
Dempster    3.7    9    7    7    3    7    0    82  7.36 17.18  0.00  3.27 17.18
Ohman       1.0    2    2    2    2    0    1    36 18.00  0.00  9.00  4.00 18.00

vs. Ariz   43.0   52   28   28   26   51    6   828  5.44 10.67  1.26  1.81  5.86

overall   918.7  868  454  431  373  789  123 15098  3.65  7.73  1.21  1.35  4.22

 

Go CUBS !!!

[radarluv1]

go cubs. just play 2 more before taking a day off again. (like yesterday)

[PackLandVA]

Anyone know what type of pitcher Gosling is? I know he's a lefty, and his numbers indicate he doesn't have the greatest control. But what types of ptches does he throw?

 

I used to salivate when a lefty was scheduled to start against the Cubs. But not anymore. They seem to get schooled by lefties, especially soft-tossers. Or pitchers nobody has ever heard of. Anyone have the Cubs record against lefty starters?

[cubweiser03]

ANOTHER MURTON START!

 

WHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I hope im not being to anxious, but this is a good sign. 3 starts in a row.

I got a wedding to attend at 4 which totally sucks.

[Laura]

Go Rich Hill!

 

GO CUBS!

[katway]

It's your opportunity to be a full-time starter... give it your all Rich Hill!

 

Go Cubs!!

[wvcbxl]

OK,

 

3.05 pm CT start, that makes it 10.05 pm here.

Better start making coffee, lots of it. :lol:

 

Go Rich !!!

[Omar]

3 straight Cubs Day games, all on high-def, all home games, and all on WGN. Its like heaven on earth!

[Radar3454]

I got my days mixed up - I thought the game started at 120 today and 3 tomorrow. I need to mow the lawn anyway.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Starting Lineups

No. Arizona

1 Royce Clayton, SS

2 Alex Cintron, 2B

3 Luis Gonzalez, LF

4 Troy Glaus, 3B

5 Shawn Green, RF

6 Conor Jackson, 1B

7 Luis Terrero, CF

8 Koyie Hill, C

9 Mike Gosling, P

 

Chicago Cubs

1 Jerry Hairston Jr., CF

2 Todd Walker, 2B

3 Derrek Lee, 1B

4 Aramis Ramirez, 3B

5 Jeromy Burnitz, RF

6 Michael Barrett, C

7 Neifi Perez, SS

8 Matt Murton, LF

9 Rich Hill, P

Edited July 30, 2005 by TrueBlueCubFan

[Transmogrified Tiger]

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

[frostwyrm]

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

 

Dusty is trying to break up the L and R bats. It's still dumb. Murton is wasted at #8 because he is essentially batting between two pitchers.

[Blueheart05]

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

 

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th.

 

All the reasons I gave for why Matt should bat 8th once applied exclusively to Barrett but Michael is a greater power threat (while Murton has shown no power to this point) thus, Matt bats lower.

Edited July 30, 2005 by Blueheart05

[Transmogrified Tiger]

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

 

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th.

 

He's the worst hitter in the lineup. There's a much higher chance of Neifi stranding runners, which is more important than turning the lineup over, or getting on base for the 8 hitter. If Murton hits 7th, he's going to get more runners to drive in than in the 8 spot. Again, he's the worst hitter in the lineup(by far), he should be hitting in the lowest spot.

[frostwyrm]

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

 

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th.

 

I've heard these theories before and I don't buy any of them. The advantages of dumping someone like Neifi in the 8 hole easily outweigh the disadvantages IMO.

[Blueheart05]

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

 

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th.

 

The 7th slot is not considered an RBI position.

 

He's the worst hitter in the lineup. There's a much higher chance of Neifi stranding runners, which is more important than turning the lineup over, or getting on base for the 8 hitter. If Murton hits 7th, he's going to get more runners to drive in than in the 8 spot. Again, he's the worst hitter in the lineup(by far), he should be hitting in the lowest spot.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

 

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th.

 

 

 

He's the worst hitter in the lineup. There's a much higher chance of Neifi stranding runners, which is more important than turning the lineup over, or getting on base for the 8 hitter. If Murton hits 7th, he's going to get more runners to drive in than in the 8 spot. Again, he's the worst hitter in the lineup(by far), he should be hitting in the lowest spot.

The 7th slot is not considered an RBI position.

 

That still doesn't explain why we should put an inferior hitter in that spot.

[Blueheart05]

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

 

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th.

 

I've heard these theories before and I don't buy any of them. The advantages of dumping someone like Neifi in the 8 hole easily outweigh the disadvantages IMO.

 

There is a big advantage to turning over the lineup and allowing our 3,4,5 hitters more opportunities to bat. Considering Neifi's sub 300 OBP there is an outstanding chance that the pitcher will always leadoff. Additionally, it's more advantageous to keep our pitchers off the base paths even though most of them are decent hitters. I contend that its better to have the pitcher come up in a sacrifice situation...

[frostwyrm]

It would be nice if Murton got to hit higher than Neifi in the lineup.

 

Actually, in this lineup I think Murton fits in well in front of the pitcher. Murton is more likely than Perez to turn over the lineup by getting on base thus allowing the pitcher to hit or sacrifice. Another benefit of Neifi batting 7th is if he can get on base Matt can potentially drive him in. Conversely, Neifi has the lowest OBP of all the regulars so there is a greater chance that the pitcher will leadoff more often. All things being equal, you don't want Neifi batting 8th.

 

 

 

He's the worst hitter in the lineup. There's a much higher chance of Neifi stranding runners, which is more important than turning the lineup over, or getting on base for the 8 hitter. If Murton hits 7th, he's going to get more runners to drive in than in the 8 spot. Again, he's the worst hitter in the lineup(by far), he should be hitting in the lowest spot.

The 7th slot is not considered an RBI position.

 

The 8th slot is not considered an RBI position either, yet you specifically mentioned possible Murton RBI opportunities as a reason for putting Murton 8th. Be a little more consisitent.