Do we want Pierre?

[CubinNY]

I don't see how there's so much debate regarding Pierre vs. JHJ and gasp...Pierre vs. Patterson.

 

Pierre is definitely a better option than anyone the Cubs have now at CF. So I'd get him if the price were right, and I'd definitely put CPatt in the deal if they wanted him.

 

Patterson is 25, twenty-five. Through no fault of his own, he has had to learn the game at the major league level. He may never live up to his potential, but right now in AAA he is a better center fielder than Pierre.

[CUBZ99]

I don't see how there's so much debate regarding Pierre vs. JHJ and gasp...Pierre vs. Patterson.

 

Pierre is definitely a better option than anyone the Cubs have now at CF. So I'd get him if the price were right, and I'd definitely put CPatt in the deal if they wanted him.

 

Patterson is 25, twenty-five. Through no fault of his own, he has had to learn the game at the major league level. He may never live up to his potential, but right now in AAA he is a better center fielder than Pierre.

 

??? Pierre is 27 and has already put up numbers Corey will likely never put up. Potential will only get you so far, before the time comes when you realize that a player doesn't have what it takes. I'm not saying Corey is there yet, but so far is career numbers show that he is Neifi Perez with a little more power.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Pierre is basically Willie Wilson. If that's what you want, fine.

[Cubzfan64]

Pierre's three-year splits at Wrigley:

 

AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS

.194/.324/.194/.518

 

I'm interested in Pierre, but only at a certain cost, that said however......

 

PLEASE don't try to use 31 at bats over 3 years to imply anything even remotely resembling statistical significance.

 

I don't mean this as any personal attack, but it drives me nuts to see stats tossed around like each and every number has 100% relevance. If there's anything I've learned about using statistics in my work place, it's that you can make almost any statistic look good or bad depending on how it's "twisted" and presented.

 

If we were able to get Pierre somehow without giving up anything significantly affecting the current team or the future I say go for it - Hendry has worked some magic in the past, I have no reason to think he can't do it again.

 

Oh, and someone mentioned in an earlier post that long grass in Wrigley will hamper Pierre's ability to bunt for hits - I'm not sure I understand that theory - in fact I always thought it would work the other way around. What am I missing?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Pierre's three-year splits at Wrigley:

 

AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS

.194/.324/.194/.518

 

I'm interested in Pierre, but only at a certain cost, that said however......

 

PLEASE don't try to use 31 at bats over 3 years to imply anything even remotely resembling statistical significance.

 

I don't mean this as any personal attack, but it drives me nuts to see stats tossed around like each and every number has 100% relevance. If there's anything I've learned about using statistics in my work place, it's that you can make almost any statistic look good or bad depending on how it's "twisted" and presented.

 

If we were able to get Pierre somehow without giving up anything significantly affecting the current team or the future I say go for it - Hendry has worked some magic in the past, I have no reason to think he can't do it again.

 

Oh, and someone mentioned in an earlier post that long grass in Wrigley will hamper Pierre's ability to bunt for hits - I'm not sure I understand that theory - in fact I always thought it would work the other way around. What am I missing?

 

I thought the argument wasn't that it would hurt his ability to bunt, but that his ability to slap ground balls(which is how he gets many of his hits) would be hindered by the long grass.

[Cubzfan64]

The infield grass at Wrigley is cut longer than at Dolphins Stadium, so Pierre's bunting would be less effective.

 

I found the quote I was questioning. Your explanation about slap hits makes more sense and could certainly be a valid argument. Thanks

[moorecg]

If this has been discussed earlier in the thread, I appologize for being lazy and not reading it all...but is there any real explination for Pierre's drop of in average and obp this year?

 

Prior to this year his 4 year average was really good and would have been a good pick up...but at .270/.317 I'm not sure he's an improvement at all.

 

Anyone heard an explination for the dropoff?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Last year Pierre hit 40 points better than his expected BABIP. This year he's 30 points under.

[UK1679666180]

He won't be worth his salary next year or the players needed to obtain him. Better than Hairston? Of course, Hairston should be a 4th OF'er. But, is the upgrade of Pierre from Hairston worth Pierre's salary or those players needed to get him?

 

Not a chance.