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Murton pretty much non-chalanted that single and allowed those runners to advance, then the guy scored on a groundout.

 

Shoulda been a shutout.

 

Not a good play for a rookie to be making, IMO, because he really looked like a loafer.

 

When he popped out to first base in his last at bat, he ran so hard he was halfway to second when the ball was caught. I don't think you have to worry about that sort of thing with Murton.

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Murton pretty much non-chalanted that single and allowed those runners to advance, then the guy scored on a groundout.

 

Shoulda been a shutout.

 

Not a good play for a rookie to be making, IMO, because he really looked like a loafer.

 

When he popped out to first base in his last at bat, he ran so hard he was halfway to second when the ball was caught. I don't think you have to worry about that sort of thing with Murton.

 

Yeah, I saw that too. He's has very good speed. I'm not worried - just calling it like I saw it.

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so what are the odds that Murton starts again today? With an 0-4 yesterday and a righty pitching against us today...my bet is on Holly.
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so what are the odds that Murton starts again today? With an 0-4 yesterday and a righty pitching against us today...my bet is on Holly.

 

If the quotes above are accurate then I think it's a safe bet that Holla will get the start.

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I'd be happy if Murton gets 4 starts per week for the next few weeks.

 

Burnitz seems to wear down with prolonged use so I wouldn't have him playing seven consecutive days.

 

Holly ends up with more at bats but Murton would get more starts in left.

 

Burnitz stays rested, Holly stays sharp and I get a good look at Murton. If Murton is succeeding three weeks from now I add another start.

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I don't know if this is the proper place for this but here it goes:

 

Yesterday on Mike and the Mad Dog (local radio show) Mike Francessa and Chris Russo were talking with Joe Torre and Mike who is a huge Yankee fan was raking Torre over the coals about starting Milky Cabrera in CF over Bernie. Torre patiently listened to what Mike had to say and then he said this (paraphrasing):

 

We didn't bring him up here to sit on the bench. Milky is 20 years old and has played everyday, he is use to playing everyday. To sit him or use him as a pinch hitter or as a platoon player wouldn't do him any good.

 

He also talked about the adjustment of having the upper deck when judging fly balls (something I never thought of). He said it will take a period of adjustment and that Cabrera cannot get that experience in AAA where they don't have the third teir. I wonder if that may have had something to do with Dubios's defense too???

 

This is Bernie freaking Williams we are talking about here, not a player of Hollandsworth's tallent.

 

Anyway, the above is why, in my opinion that Torre is one of the best managers in baseball. And why Dusty must be shown the door.

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I don't know if this is the proper place for this but here it goes:

 

Yesterday on Mike and the Mad Dog (local radio show) Mike Francessa and Chris Russo were talking with Joe Torre and Mike who is a huge Yankee fan was raking Torre over the coals about starting Milky Cabrera in CF over Bernie. Torre patiently listened to what Mike had to say and then he said this (paraphrasing):

 

We didn't bring him up here to sit on the bench. Milky is 20 years old and has played everyday, he is use to playing everyday. To sit him or use him as a pinch hitter or as a platoon player wouldn't do him any good.

 

He also talked about the adjustment of having the upper deck when judging fly balls (something I never thought of). He said it will take a period of adjustment and that Cabrera cannot get that experience in AAA where they don't have the third teir. I wonder if that may have had something to do with Dubios's defense too???

 

This is Bernie freaking Williams we are talking about here, not a player of Hollandsworth's tallent.

 

Anyway, the above is why, in my opinion that Torre is one of the best managers in baseball. And why Dusty must be shown the door.

 

That might have been a good comparison if we're talking about the April/May Holla. Bernie Williams doesn't have similar numbers over the past two weeks that Holla does. I don't know why people can't forget about Holla's horrible April and May but can't remember Holla's recent hitting/OBP. And I'm not a big Holla fan.

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I don't know if this is the proper place for this but here it goes:

 

Yesterday on Mike and the Mad Dog (local radio show) Mike Francessa and Chris Russo were talking with Joe Torre and Mike who is a huge Yankee fan was raking Torre over the coals about starting Milky Cabrera in CF over Bernie. Torre patiently listened to what Mike had to say and then he said this (paraphrasing):

 

We didn't bring him up here to sit on the bench. Milky is 20 years old and has played everyday, he is use to playing everyday. To sit him or use him as a pinch hitter or as a platoon player wouldn't do him any good.

 

He also talked about the adjustment of having the upper deck when judging fly balls (something I never thought of). He said it will take a period of adjustment and that Cabrera cannot get that experience in AAA where they don't have the third teir. I wonder if that may have had something to do with Dubios's defense too???

 

This is Bernie freaking Williams we are talking about here, not a player of Hollandsworth's tallent

 

Anyway, the above is why, in my opinion that Torre is one of the best managers in baseball. And why Dusty must be shown the door.

 

That might have been a good comparison if we're talking about the April/May Holla. Bernie Williams doesn't have similar numbers over the past two weeks that Holla does. I don't know why people can't forget about Holla's horrible April and May but can't remember Holla's recent hitting/OBP. And I'm not a big Holla fan.

 

How about Hollandsworth terrible June too. I don't give a frog's slimy ass about Hollandsworth's last two weeks. The guy doesn't deserve to be given the starting job. He has proved time and again he does not deserve to start. If that is the case why bring Murton up? Trinidad Hubbard was tearing it up in AAA before being relseased. Or how about Scott McClain? It make no sense to bring up a prospect to have a window seat, none!

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I don't know if this is the proper place for this but here it goes:

 

Yesterday on Mike and the Mad Dog (local radio show) Mike Francessa and Chris Russo were talking with Joe Torre and Mike who is a huge Yankee fan was raking Torre over the coals about starting Milky Cabrera in CF over Bernie. Torre patiently listened to what Mike had to say and then he said this (paraphrasing):

 

We didn't bring him up here to sit on the bench. Milky is 20 years old and has played everyday, he is use to playing everyday. To sit him or use him as a pinch hitter or as a platoon player wouldn't do him any good.

 

He also talked about the adjustment of having the upper deck when judging fly balls (something I never thought of). He said it will take a period of adjustment and that Cabrera cannot get that experience in AAA where they don't have the third teir. I wonder if that may have had something to do with Dubios's defense too???

 

This is Bernie freaking Williams we are talking about here, not a player of Hollandsworth's tallent

 

Anyway, the above is why, in my opinion that Torre is one of the best managers in baseball. And why Dusty must be shown the door.

 

That might have been a good comparison if we're talking about the April/May Holla. Bernie Williams doesn't have similar numbers over the past two weeks that Holla does. I don't know why people can't forget about Holla's horrible April and May but can't remember Holla's recent hitting/OBP. And I'm not a big Holla fan.

 

How about Hollandsworth terrible June too. I don't give a frog's slimy ass about Hollandsworth's last two weeks. The guy doesn't deserve to be given the starting job. He has proved time and again he does not deserve to start. If that is the case why bring Murton up? Trinidad Hubbard was tearing it up in AAA before being relseased. Or how about Scott McClain? It make no sense to bring up a prospect to have a window seat, none!

 

You're upset because Murton will sit for the second time in the last five games?

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You're upset because Murton will sit for the second time in the last five games?

 

It's really hard to give Dusty the benefit of the doubt and assume this is only a blip. I don't think I have to apologize for thinking Dusty will bench Murton and play Hollandsworth far too often.

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You're upset because Murton will sit for the second time in the last five games?

 

It's really hard to give Dusty the benefit of the doubt and assume this is only a blip. I don't think I have to apologize for thinking Dusty will bench Murton and play Hollandsworth far too often.

 

Baker has already said that Murton is going to platoon with Hollandsworth. This is for Murton's own good, says Baker, to protect him from tough RH pitchers and not damage his confidence.

 

Seems to me we've seen this movie enough times now to know how it's going to end.

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Seems to me we've seen this movie enough times now to know how it's going to end.

 

Yes, it is a tragedy worthy of Shakespear

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You're upset because Murton will sit for the second time in the last five games?

 

It's really hard to give Dusty the benefit of the doubt and assume this is only a blip. I don't think I have to apologize for thinking Dusty will bench Murton and play Hollandsworth far too often.

 

Baker has already said that Murton is going to platoon with Hollandsworth. This is for Murton's own good, says Baker, to protect him from tough RH pitchers and not damage his confidence.

 

Seems to me we've seen this movie enough times now to know how it's going to end.

 

I have no problem with this if, if, IF, IF Holla continues this little hitting streak he's on. But I believe he'll slump again. I know I tend to be an optimist, but I still believe that they'll platoon for the next two weeks (which will coincide with Holla's bad streak) before a deal for an everyday LF is made.

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Seems to me we've seen this movie enough times now to know how it's going to end.

 

Yes, it is a tragedy worthy of Shakespear

 

I was thinking more along the lines of The Great Escape. Every time I watch it I hope Steve McQueen justs pulls out a pair of wire clippers, cuts his way through the fence and makes his way into Switzerland. But he always tried to jump the fence and gets caught.

 

Every single time.

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You're upset because Murton will sit for the second time in the last five games?

 

It's really hard to give Dusty the benefit of the doubt and assume this is only a blip. I don't think I have to apologize for thinking Dusty will bench Murton and play Hollandsworth far too often.

 

Baker has already said that Murton is going to platoon with Hollandsworth. This is for Murton's own good, says Baker, to protect him from tough RH pitchers and not damage his confidence.

 

Seems to me we've seen this movie enough times now to know how it's going to end.

 

I have no problem with this if, if, IF, IF Holla continues this little hitting streak he's on. But I believe he'll slump again. I know I tend to be an optimist, but I still believe that they'll platoon for the next two weeks (which will coincide with Holla's bad streak) before a deal for an everyday LF is made.

 

See Dal that is the problem. If Hollandsworth continues hitting, great. If not the Cubs don't have two weeks to mess around with Dustyisms, like "Holly is hitting a lot of atem balls" or "boy holly is just unlucky he is really putting good wood on the ball". By the time the two weeks are up the Cubs could be out of the race. It probably won't be b/c of Hollandsworth only but...

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Matt Murton appreciated the reception he got when he took left field on Thursday, his first game in Wrigley Field. Murton was called up July 8 from Double-A West Tenn along with Greenberg and made his first start in Chicago.

 

"That was really nice of them," Murton said of the fans, who cheered as he took his place in the first inning. "There was somebody out there who had a sign that said, 'Welcome to Wrigley,' and stuff like that is cool. The fans were good to me. For me, it was a good experience to get my first opportunity to play at Wrigley.

 

From Cubs.com

 

Thought maybe you might like that. There's more about it, just you'll have to go to the link.

 

And I would like to hope that Dusty would realize that Murton should be playing over Hollansworth, becuase of Murton's potentional and upside.

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And I would like to hope that Dusty would realize that Murton should be playing over Hollansworth, becuase of Murton's potentional and upside.

 

It's not just his potential and upside though, it's largely Hollandsworth's downside. Todd's been bad again lately. And he's been bad for a corner OF on the season as a whole.

 

I like Murton. But I wouldn't consider him a great can't miss prospect with unlimited upside. He doesn't deserve a shot no matter who is in front of him. But, like Dubois, he deserves a shot if only Todd is in front of him, which is the case here.

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Hollandsworth just may be starting to tank again. I know it's only 4 games, but this doesn't look good.

 

Hollandsworth  AB   R   H  2B  3B  HR  TB RBI  BB  SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
04/04 - 05/31 104   3  21   5   1   1  31   9  10  26  0.202  0.278  0.298  0.576
06/01 - 07/08  97  14  35   8   1   4  57  20   4  10  0.361  0.379  0.588  0.966
07/09 - 07/15  11   1   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   2  0.091  0.091  0.091  0.182

Overall       212  18  57  13   2   5  89  29  14  38  0.269  0.314  0.420  0.734

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All of that time sitting around and doing nothing hurt him maybe?

 

Yeah, but Hollandsworth should be used to it. He's a career bench player. He was a bench player for 1/3 of this season. And if it affects Hollandsworth this way, imagine what it could do to a kid that has played pretty much everyday since little league, thru HS, thru college, and in the minors.

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