7/8 Cubs @ Marlins. 6:35 CT, CLTV Who Cares.

[Schwarber Fan]

Dusty are you trying to see how many arms will fall of our pitchers this year or what?! Maybe he just lost count.

 

This had g2 be his last inning hes up to 120 pitches

 

NO ONE IN THE PEN????????

[otis89]

At least it's a guy on my fantasy team that has an OBP of .500 for tonight. :)

[sethuel1]

To those of you that were saying Zambrano has no control tonight,

 

I give you one bad home plate umpire.

[otis89]

That HAS to be Z's last inning.

[Fred Hornkohl]

BOTTOM OF THE SEVENTH INNING

 

Pierre struck out swinging

Castillo grounded out to second, 4-3

Delgado walked

Cabrera lined out to shortstop

 

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base

 

           1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R  H E
CUBS       1 0 2 2 3 0 0        8 12 0 
Florida    0 1 0 0 1 1 0        3  6 0 

 

Home runs: Florida: Cabrera (17), CUBS: Burnitz (14)

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Zambrano   7.0  6  3  3  6  7  1 120 

[Jon]

Carlos 1, hurricane 0.

 

Did Carlos really need to throw 120 pitches?

[E.J.]

That HAS to be Z's last inning.

 

"Dude's a horse. He's got another inning in him."

[marc_foust]

There is no one in the bullpen because cedeno is going to finish things off so Macias can come in and play SS.

[badger1679666666]

I think it is stupid to leave Z in, he's been struglling all night, and when he falls apart it usually the 7th inning....

 

Care to restate the comment?

 

If 7 IP, 3 ER, and 7 K's (Despite BB's) is struggling, then give me struggling every night.

 

Z's a workhorse. He'll be fine. And actually he normally falls apart EARLY if he falls apart. Most of the time he's gone deep he's had 1 hitters or really good games going. IIRC.

[badger1679666666]

Carlos 1, hurricane 0.

 

Did Carlos really need to throw 120 pitches?

 

He's not a tiny kid, he's a big young kid, he can handle it. 120 pitches really isn't that much. I think pitchers have become coddled too much over the years.

 

He saved the pen (do you really want to see them guard a 5 run lead?). Now it will go Wuertz, dempster if needed.

[otis89]

Messenger's ERA went DOWN to 6.23 with that outing.

[otis89]

Carlos 1, hurricane 0.

 

Did Carlos really need to throw 120 pitches?

 

He's not a tiny kid, he's a big young kid, he can handle it. 120 pitches really isn't that much. I think pitchers have become coddled too much over the years.

 

He saved the pen (do you really want to see them guard a 5 run lead?). Now it will go Wuertz, dempster if needed.

 

Who will we use if Dempster isn't needed?

[Schwarber Fan]

Mr. Marlin in LF

 

2-5 Hairston..... better than Neifi or Corey from the leadoff spot.... or ne other spot

[marc_foust]

Any bets on who gets Murton with the shaving cream towel.

[otis89]

Any bets on who gets Murton with the shaving cream towel.

 

Hollandsworth :twisted:

[badger1679666666]

Carlos 1, hurricane 0.

 

Did Carlos really need to throw 120 pitches?

 

He's not a tiny kid, he's a big young kid, he can handle it. 120 pitches really isn't that much. I think pitchers have become coddled too much over the years.

 

He saved the pen (do you really want to see them guard a 5 run lead?). Now it will go Wuertz, dempster if needed.

 

Who will we use if Dempster isn't needed?

 

Ohman?

Remmy?

 

Have Dempster ready if it starts to slip.

Edited July 9, 2005 by badger

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I just got the baby to sleep...and I'm not reading through the entire game thread...

 

But.... I just have one thing to say. This better have earned Murton another start.

 

And thanks DJAXX for helping me get that Murton jersey.

[Jon]

Carlos 1, hurricane 0.

 

Did Carlos really need to throw 120 pitches?

 

He's not a tiny kid, he's a big young kid, he can handle it. 120 pitches really isn't that much. I think pitchers have become coddled too much over the years.

 

He saved the pen (do you really want to see them guard a 5 run lead?). Now it will go Wuertz, dempster if needed.

120 isn't much? And in a relative blowout? Most major league pitchers do not throw 120 pitches with regularity. Most major league managers would not have someone throw 120 pitches with regularity. Carlos hasn't had his 2-seam fastball for over a month and has struggled significantly with control. You don't need to overwork someone when they're trying to get a pitch back.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Ramirez is really slow.

[Schwarber Fan]

OK

 

Sportsline has Z w/ 122 pitches and no one in the bullpen

 

I hope thats wrong

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE EIGHTH INNING

 

Bump in to pitch (4th), Conine in lf (9th) for Florida

Hairston flied out to center field

Walker flied out to center field

Ramirez grounded out to short, 6-3

 

0 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

           1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R  H E
CUBS       1 0 2 2 3 0 0 0      8 12 0 
Florida    0 1 0 0 1 1 0        3  6 0 

 

Home runs: Florida: Cabrera (17), CUBS: Burnitz (14)

[otis89]

Ramirez is really slow.

 

Tell me something I don't know.

[Guest]

If 7 IP, 3 ER, and 7 K's (Despite BB's) is struggling, then give me struggling every night.

He allowed six walks and a homer tonight. That's struggling. On most nights that line would net you 5-6 earned runs.

[Tedward]

I just got the baby to sleep...and I'm not reading through the entire game thread...

 

But.... I just have one thing to say. This better have earned Murton another start.

 

And thanks DJAXX for helping me get that Murton jersey.

 

I believe Jon posted early in the thread that Murton will get one more start over the weekend, and Hollandsworth will get the other.

[badger1679666666]

2 people have to get on base for Murton to get another AB. Neifi won't, so 2/3 of Barrett, Burntiz, or Cedeno will have to.